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WESG Issues Apology for Living Conditions

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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 11 2018 17:22 GMT
#1

After numerous complaints from Pro players in multiple esports about their hotel conditions, WESG has issued an apology.



Some of the complaints :





PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
March 11 2018 17:54 GMT
#2
This looks horrible wtf
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
March 11 2018 19:33 GMT
#3
welcome to shitty hotels of china, please enjoy your stay
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type_Zero_00
Profile Joined August 2017
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-11 20:40:20
March 11 2018 20:39 GMT
#4
well.. not every hotel in China is shitty. pretty sure no one complains during DAC. it's probably organizer fault not checking the accommodation needed for the player. but yeah its look horrible.
EmoBacon
Profile Blog Joined February 2018
41 Posts
March 11 2018 20:59 GMT
#5
so i'm pretty new in the scene but it seems like every tournament in china is plagued by very poor management why is this?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 11 2018 21:03 GMT
#6
On March 12 2018 05:39 type_Zero_00 wrote:
well.. not every hotel in China is shitty. pretty sure no one complains during DAC. it's probably organizer fault not checking the accommodation needed for the player. but yeah its look horrible.

The first hotel wesg reserved backed out last minute, thus the complications
EmoBacon
Profile Blog Joined February 2018
41 Posts
March 11 2018 21:17 GMT
#7
On March 12 2018 06:03 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:39 type_Zero_00 wrote:
well.. not every hotel in China is shitty. pretty sure no one complains during DAC. it's probably organizer fault not checking the accommodation needed for the player. but yeah its look horrible.

The first hotel wesg reserved backed out last minute, thus the complications


what would make a hotel back out of a reservation?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 11 2018 21:52 GMT
#8
On March 12 2018 06:17 EmoBacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 06:03 Nevuk wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:39 type_Zero_00 wrote:
well.. not every hotel in China is shitty. pretty sure no one complains during DAC. it's probably organizer fault not checking the accommodation needed for the player. but yeah its look horrible.

The first hotel wesg reserved backed out last minute, thus the complications


what would make a hotel back out of a reservation?


yeah... probably wesg didn't pay them
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
March 11 2018 22:00 GMT
#9
disgusting
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
March 11 2018 22:16 GMT
#10
unfortunately this is pretty classic
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
March 12 2018 02:07 GMT
#11
Ha! Ive being to haikou.

To be honest all the hotels in the city are like that.
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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
March 12 2018 05:23 GMT
#12
On March 12 2018 11:07 haduken wrote:
Ha! Ive being to haikou.

To be honest all the hotels in the city are like that.


From just a quick glance: There are 2 Hilton hotels, a Marriott, a Ritz-Carlton and a Shangri-La in Haikou, all highly respected chains with very good average reviews on tripadvisor, so I very much doubt the accuracy of your statement.
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
March 12 2018 13:35 GMT
#13
On March 12 2018 14:23 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 11:07 haduken wrote:
Ha! Ive being to haikou.

To be honest all the hotels in the city are like that.


From just a quick glance: There are 2 Hilton hotels, a Marriott, a Ritz-Carlton and a Shangri-La in Haikou, all highly respected chains with very good average reviews on tripadvisor, so I very much doubt the accuracy of your statement.


he probably means non chain hotels, the pics looks typical china "business" hotels. i mean WESG is probably not going to spend 100+ USD per 2 person room per night for shangri-la.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-12 17:32:57
March 12 2018 14:50 GMT
#14
The issue seems solved now according to players on twitter:



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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
March 12 2018 19:56 GMT
#15
On March 12 2018 14:23 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 11:07 haduken wrote:
Ha! Ive being to haikou.

To be honest all the hotels in the city are like that.


From just a quick glance: There are 2 Hilton hotels, a Marriott, a Ritz-Carlton and a Shangri-La in Haikou, all highly respected chains with very good average reviews on tripadvisor, so I very much doubt the accuracy of your statement.


Welp my hotel is not your hotel.

Rillanon.au
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
March 13 2018 01:37 GMT
#16
Hmm...some other clashes.

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Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
March 13 2018 02:56 GMT
#17
Tourney is starting in 6 minutes but the site still shows TBD vs TBD? Is this real?
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brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
March 13 2018 04:04 GMT
#18
Now I'm curious, how do tournament organizers generate income so they can afford 5-stars hotels and amazing venues + profit margin?

Ticket selling and sponsors?
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 13 2018 07:26 GMT
#19
On March 13 2018 13:04 brinepumps wrote:
Now I'm curious, how do tournament organizers generate income so they can afford 5-stars hotels and amazing venues + profit margin?

Ticket selling and sponsors?


They don't generally. ESL has the Facebook partnership which brings neat revenue apparently. Other than that, I think most rely on sponsorship money. In this event, I believe alibaba is the sponsor.

That's why I believe tickets/compendiums/hats are a good avenue for organisers to earn revenue and develop a brand/theme etc. Unfortunately valve is greedy and takes too much of a cut for this.

I think for now most tournaments are running at a loss, and they're just gambling for the scene to mature and capitalize on it.

konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
March 13 2018 07:59 GMT
#20
On March 12 2018 23:50 Julmust wrote:
The issue seems solved now according to players on twitter:
https://twitter.com/LKScsgo/status/973042773128568832
https://twitter.com/Feya_sltv/status/973184320033538048
https://twitter.com/Wardixo/status/973154888178962434
https://twitter.com/Mixwell/status/973170800013529088

nice!
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maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
March 13 2018 08:16 GMT
#21
On March 13 2018 13:04 brinepumps wrote:
Now I'm curious, how do tournament organizers generate income so they can afford 5-stars hotels and amazing venues + profit margin?

Ticket selling and sponsors?


They dont. Third party organisations have limited ways to generate revenue.

Most events are part of the marketing budget of larger corporation / main sponsor. The main goal isn't profitability, but the attraction of the target audience.

Newer in the esports scene is venture capital money, where the losses in the current year are negligible, assuming huge profits in the future.

Then there is the dark side. Organisitions hold esports events and use its losses to hide money laundering or advertise a gambling/betting site with rigged odds that they own and control.


Now for WESG. Alibaba (roughly amazon of china) uses this event as a marketing tool and accepts its current losses.

Alibaba itself predicts these tournaments will continue operating at a loss for the next five years, but according to Alisports’ CEO Zhang Dazhong, this is a financial hit the company is willing to take, in order to win long-term.

esportsobserver.com

From 2016 Alibaba invests $150 million in esports.
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brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
March 13 2018 09:52 GMT
#22
Then there is the dark side. Organisitions hold esports events and use its losses to hide money laundering or advertise a gambling/betting site with rigged odds that they own and control.


This is exactly what I afraid of..
Any reliable sources/articles I can read?
Thanks in advance!!
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