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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 26 2015 17:45 GMT
#38221
On May 27 2015 02:40 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:38 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:26 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:23 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:17 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:14 Plansix wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:11 ahswtini wrote:
isnt the f35 supposed to be capable of everything, stealth, air superiority and ground attack etc..

Yeah, sure. And they keep making new versions. Its the Ipod of high speed attack craft. New model all the time, but its not really clear why we need one.

Its because they don't actually have the f-35 working yet

We need it to maintain an edge against China/Russia in having the first fifth generation fighters.

yea it's called the f22 that thing outmaneuvers and blows everything else out of the sky even though it costs like half a billion dollars to make

worth

the f-22 is only an air superiority fighter, and will likely maintain that role because its amazing at it

The f-35 isn't intended to be air superiority, though its stealth profile is about as good at the f-22 which is fucking insane.

the f22 has a far superior stealth profile, even if the 35 stores armaments in its inner bays

and my point was that we already do have the edge in 5th gen fighters
i think the funniest thing about this arms buildup race is that the chinese counterpart to the 22 looks like an exact ripoff

isnt it like the bastard child of the f35 and a sukhoi

no it looks like a mix of the f35 and and the 22
google image the j31
it has the overall wing, vertical stabilizer, and fuselage of the 22 but adds in the indented air intake design of the 35.
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dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
May 26 2015 17:49 GMT
#38222
On May 27 2015 02:45 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:40 ahswtini wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:38 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:26 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:23 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:17 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:14 Plansix wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:11 ahswtini wrote:
isnt the f35 supposed to be capable of everything, stealth, air superiority and ground attack etc..

Yeah, sure. And they keep making new versions. Its the Ipod of high speed attack craft. New model all the time, but its not really clear why we need one.

Its because they don't actually have the f-35 working yet

We need it to maintain an edge against China/Russia in having the first fifth generation fighters.

yea it's called the f22 that thing outmaneuvers and blows everything else out of the sky even though it costs like half a billion dollars to make

worth

the f-22 is only an air superiority fighter, and will likely maintain that role because its amazing at it

The f-35 isn't intended to be air superiority, though its stealth profile is about as good at the f-22 which is fucking insane.

the f22 has a far superior stealth profile, even if the 35 stores armaments in its inner bays

and my point was that we already do have the edge in 5th gen fighters
i think the funniest thing about this arms buildup race is that the chinese counterpart to the 22 looks like an exact ripoff

isnt it like the bastard child of the f35 and a sukhoi

no it looks like a mix of the f35 and and the 22
google image the j31
it has the overall wing, vertical stabilizer, and fuselage of the 22 but adds in the indented air intake design of the 35.

It's made in china by underaged, unskilled labourers though, So it's okay, AMERICAN quality and pew pew experience edge will prevail and vanquish all the foes of FREEDOM without even breaking a sweat.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 26 2015 17:51 GMT
#38223
On May 27 2015 02:49 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:45 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:40 ahswtini wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:38 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:26 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:23 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:17 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:14 Plansix wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:11 ahswtini wrote:
isnt the f35 supposed to be capable of everything, stealth, air superiority and ground attack etc..

Yeah, sure. And they keep making new versions. Its the Ipod of high speed attack craft. New model all the time, but its not really clear why we need one.

Its because they don't actually have the f-35 working yet

We need it to maintain an edge against China/Russia in having the first fifth generation fighters.

yea it's called the f22 that thing outmaneuvers and blows everything else out of the sky even though it costs like half a billion dollars to make

worth

the f-22 is only an air superiority fighter, and will likely maintain that role because its amazing at it

The f-35 isn't intended to be air superiority, though its stealth profile is about as good at the f-22 which is fucking insane.

the f22 has a far superior stealth profile, even if the 35 stores armaments in its inner bays

and my point was that we already do have the edge in 5th gen fighters
i think the funniest thing about this arms buildup race is that the chinese counterpart to the 22 looks like an exact ripoff

isnt it like the bastard child of the f35 and a sukhoi

no it looks like a mix of the f35 and and the 22
google image the j31
it has the overall wing, vertical stabilizer, and fuselage of the 22 but adds in the indented air intake design of the 35.

It's made in china by underaged, unskilled labourers though, So it's okay, AMERICAN quality and pew pew experience edge will prevail and vanquish all the foes of FREEDOM without even breaking a sweat.

And I think there is still only one confirmed prototype. Unless they are building large numbers of them in secret for the upcoming invasion. Also, China is responsible for the drought in California. They are weakening the population before the beach landing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 26 2015 17:52 GMT
#38224
On May 27 2015 02:45 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:43 PassiveAce wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:35 ahswtini wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:27 PassiveAce wrote:
Good thing these days we fight wars against armies with powerful air forces otherwise some might say that spending so much of our tax revenue on air superiority would be a tremendous waste leftover from a cold war mentality.

ikr why develop shit that we dont need today, forward planning is a terrible idea

Yes we must always be prepared for the inevitable military conflict with our perennial communist enemies.
Or maybe this century it will be the filthy Persians and Arabs. No matter who threatens freedom and democracy and all we hold dear and etc at this particular moment in time, america will always be prepared to level disproportionate force against whatever predominantly civilian population deemed necessary.

Stay vigilant, American patriots.

u dont wear a seatbelt cuz a carcrash is inevitable

I wonder what saves more lives, seatbelts or the american military. W/e the answer is, seatbelts save lives for a a hell of a lot cheaper.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 26 2015 18:02 GMT
#38225
On May 27 2015 02:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:45 ahswtini wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:43 PassiveAce wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:35 ahswtini wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:27 PassiveAce wrote:
Good thing these days we fight wars against armies with powerful air forces otherwise some might say that spending so much of our tax revenue on air superiority would be a tremendous waste leftover from a cold war mentality.

ikr why develop shit that we dont need today, forward planning is a terrible idea

Yes we must always be prepared for the inevitable military conflict with our perennial communist enemies.
Or maybe this century it will be the filthy Persians and Arabs. No matter who threatens freedom and democracy and all we hold dear and etc at this particular moment in time, america will always be prepared to level disproportionate force against whatever predominantly civilian population deemed necessary.

Stay vigilant, American patriots.

u dont wear a seatbelt cuz a carcrash is inevitable

I wonder what saves more lives, seatbelts or the american military. W/e the answer is, seatbelts save lives for a a hell of a lot cheaper.

u miss the point, but that isnt surprising given ur posting
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 26 2015 18:02 GMT
#38226
wow, is flaming passive considered hate speech or a hate crime?
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 26 2015 18:04 GMT
#38227
he's an american its not a crime here

GOD BLESS THE U S A
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 18:05:53
May 26 2015 18:05 GMT
#38228
Ur point is that we need to be prepared for potential serious military conflicts between major world superpowers. My point is that there is no reason to believe that their will be such a conflict in the future and preparing for that war is hideously expensive. We KNOW car accidents are gonna happen. We have NO reason to believe we're going to war with China. Ur analogy sucks dude.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 26 2015 18:08 GMT
#38229
Maybe we should start building a giant space laser so we can stop the inevitable alien invasion while we're at it
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 26 2015 18:08 GMT
#38230
The american people wanted the Death Star.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 26 2015 18:08 GMT
#38231
well the point is by the time we know war is going to happen, putting in 10 years to develop a plane isn't going to cut it

some things have to be preemptive
i'm sure it's widely publicized that the military runs models on and has plans for all sorts of retarded scenarios from alien invasion to zombie outbreaks
tbh im not sure if it's worth all the budget we allocate but i disagree that programs like these are not a necessity
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
May 26 2015 18:09 GMT
#38232
On May 27 2015 03:08 PassiveAce wrote:
Maybe we should start building a giant space laser so we can stop the inevitable alien invasion while we're at it

How could you possibly be against building a giant floating laser? Filthy money grubbing member of a religious minority.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 26 2015 18:10 GMT
#38233
Military budget isn't just shit like that tho there's a lot of research that gets funded

Things like the internet were military funding
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 26 2015 18:12 GMT
#38234
The American military industrial complex is a giant money making machine and welfare for some states that produce military equipment we "need" to be safe. A lot of people make a very good living on making us prepared with equipment we may or may not need.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 26 2015 18:12 GMT
#38235
gonna be epic when the aliens attack and Commander Lee Young Ho shows em who's boss ala Ender's game
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
May 26 2015 18:30 GMT
#38236
On May 27 2015 03:12 Gosi wrote:
gonna be epic when the aliens attack and Commander Lee Young Ho shows em who's boss ala Ender's game

Song Byung Goo hwaiting all the way, noob. n_n
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Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
May 26 2015 18:32 GMT
#38237
in the end its american contractors getting paid to do work that furthers basic science & engineering/manufacturing capability

obviously f35 project has major issues but the fact that military spending is high isn't a problem in itself
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 18:39:40
May 26 2015 18:39 GMT
#38238
On May 27 2015 03:32 Veles wrote:

but the fact that military spending is high isn't a problem in itself

it isn't?
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 26 2015 18:40 GMT
#38239


when ur playing with 2k mmr friend
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
May 26 2015 18:41 GMT
#38240
On May 27 2015 03:32 Veles wrote:
in the end its american contractors getting paid to do work that furthers basic science & engineering/manufacturing capability

obviously f35 project has major issues but the fact that military spending is high isn't a problem in itself

it is for a poor country like canadia
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