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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 26 2015 17:26 GMT
#38201
On May 27 2015 02:23 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:17 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:14 Plansix wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:11 ahswtini wrote:
isnt the f35 supposed to be capable of everything, stealth, air superiority and ground attack etc..

Yeah, sure. And they keep making new versions. Its the Ipod of high speed attack craft. New model all the time, but its not really clear why we need one.

Its because they don't actually have the f-35 working yet

We need it to maintain an edge against China/Russia in having the first fifth generation fighters.

yea it's called the f22 that thing outmaneuvers and blows everything else out of the sky even though it costs like half a billion dollars to make

worth

And will never see combat because fighter dog fights are the shit out of movies. But don't tell the Air Force that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 17:28:08
May 26 2015 17:27 GMT
#38202
Good thing these days we fight wars against armies with powerful air forces otherwise some might say that spending so much of our tax revenue on air superiority would be a tremendous waste leftover from a cold war mentality.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 26 2015 17:28 GMT
#38203
On May 27 2015 02:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:23 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:17 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:14 Plansix wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:11 ahswtini wrote:
isnt the f35 supposed to be capable of everything, stealth, air superiority and ground attack etc..

Yeah, sure. And they keep making new versions. Its the Ipod of high speed attack craft. New model all the time, but its not really clear why we need one.

Its because they don't actually have the f-35 working yet

We need it to maintain an edge against China/Russia in having the first fifth generation fighters.

yea it's called the f22 that thing outmaneuvers and blows everything else out of the sky even though it costs like half a billion dollars to make

worth

And will never see combat because fighter dog fights are the shit out of movies. But don't tell the Air Force that.

Who gives a shit about dog fights thats not what the f-22 is good at

the f-22 can shoot down a target from beyond that target's range without ever being detected on radar, THATS why its good, not any hypothetical 'dogfighting' ability
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 26 2015 17:34 GMT
#38204
nice people at work know what TL is we fucking won lads
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 26 2015 17:35 GMT
#38205
On May 27 2015 02:27 PassiveAce wrote:
Good thing these days we fight wars against armies with powerful air forces otherwise some might say that spending so much of our tax revenue on air superiority would be a tremendous waste leftover from a cold war mentality.

ikr why develop shit that we dont need today, forward planning is a terrible idea
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 26 2015 17:36 GMT
#38206
i flew a real F16 simulator out at luke air force base when I was a kid. It was a lot of fun but I couldn't hit shit until they equipped my sim with some super, super expensive heat seeking OP rockets for low MMR pilots.

This was in the mid 90s and the simulator computers took up like a full room. I wonder what kind of tech they have these days.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 26 2015 17:37 GMT
#38207
Yes, for all the air to air warfare we will be getting in the next 20 years. Or the last 20 for that matter.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 17:39:23
May 26 2015 17:38 GMT
#38208
On May 27 2015 02:26 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:23 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:17 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:14 Plansix wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:11 ahswtini wrote:
isnt the f35 supposed to be capable of everything, stealth, air superiority and ground attack etc..

Yeah, sure. And they keep making new versions. Its the Ipod of high speed attack craft. New model all the time, but its not really clear why we need one.

Its because they don't actually have the f-35 working yet

We need it to maintain an edge against China/Russia in having the first fifth generation fighters.

yea it's called the f22 that thing outmaneuvers and blows everything else out of the sky even though it costs like half a billion dollars to make

worth

the f-22 is only an air superiority fighter, and will likely maintain that role because its amazing at it

The f-35 isn't intended to be air superiority, though its stealth profile is about as good at the f-22 which is fucking insane.

the f22 has a far superior stealth profile, even if the 35 stores armaments in its inner bays

and my point was that we already do have the edge in 5th gen fighters
i think the funniest thing about this arms buildup race is that the chinese counterpart to the 22 looks like an exact ripoff
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 26 2015 17:38 GMT
#38209
On May 27 2015 02:34 eieio wrote:
nice people at work know what TL is we fucking won lads

w0w introduce them to this thread and make them GD regulars imagine going to work every day with THE LADS FROM GD

rofl nvm thatr would be awful
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 26 2015 17:39 GMT
#38210
On May 27 2015 02:37 Plansix wrote:
Yes, for all the air to air warfare we will be getting in the next 20 years. Or the last 20 for that matter.

Look man its like starcraft just because you're enemy is on 1/1 and you're on 2/2 doesn't mean you don't go for 3/3 ya know
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 17:41:49
May 26 2015 17:39 GMT
#38211
On May 27 2015 02:38 andyrau wrote:
i think the funniest thing about this arms buildup race is that the chinese counterpart to the 22 looks like an exact ripoff

? communists would never steal inferior capitalist technology and ideas it's against their ideology
huehuehue
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 26 2015 17:40 GMT
#38212
On May 27 2015 02:36 crms wrote:
i flew a real F16 simulator out at luke air force base when I was a kid. It was a lot of fun but I couldn't hit shit until they equipped my sim with some super, super expensive heat seeking OP rockets for low MMR pilots.

This was in the mid 90s and the simulator computers took up like a full room. I wonder what kind of tech they have these days.

the F15 simulators i flew (RAF Lakenheath, 48th Fighter Wing) were basically large booths.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
May 26 2015 17:40 GMT
#38213
Pew pew airplanes with rockets.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 26 2015 17:40 GMT
#38214
On May 27 2015 02:38 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:26 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:23 andyrau wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:17 Shaella wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:14 Plansix wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:11 ahswtini wrote:
isnt the f35 supposed to be capable of everything, stealth, air superiority and ground attack etc..

Yeah, sure. And they keep making new versions. Its the Ipod of high speed attack craft. New model all the time, but its not really clear why we need one.

Its because they don't actually have the f-35 working yet

We need it to maintain an edge against China/Russia in having the first fifth generation fighters.

yea it's called the f22 that thing outmaneuvers and blows everything else out of the sky even though it costs like half a billion dollars to make

worth

the f-22 is only an air superiority fighter, and will likely maintain that role because its amazing at it

The f-35 isn't intended to be air superiority, though its stealth profile is about as good at the f-22 which is fucking insane.

the f22 has a far superior stealth profile, even if the 35 stores armaments in its inner bays

and my point was that we already do have the edge in 5th gen fighters
i think the funniest thing about this arms buildup race is that the chinese counterpart to the 22 looks like an exact ripoff

isnt it like the bastard child of the f35 and a sukhoi
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 26 2015 17:41 GMT
#38215
On May 27 2015 02:40 dismiss wrote:
Pew pew airplanes with rockets.

pew pew i shot u YOU ARE DEAD count to 10
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 26 2015 17:42 GMT
#38216
the thing about the f35 is that it doesn't do anything well but costs enough money to actually just build the 3 planes that do all of its roles better separately
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
May 26 2015 17:42 GMT
#38217
On May 27 2015 02:41 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:40 dismiss wrote:
Pew pew airplanes with rockets.

pew pew i shot u YOU ARE DEAD count to 10

Oh no u cheat 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. Pew pew, you ded now son.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 17:42:53
May 26 2015 17:42 GMT
#38218
On May 27 2015 02:41 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:40 dismiss wrote:
Pew pew airplanes with rockets.

pew pew i shot u YOU ARE DEAD count to 10

one
two
ten
wow english is such a great language two and to homonyms op
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 26 2015 17:43 GMT
#38219
On May 27 2015 02:35 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:27 PassiveAce wrote:
Good thing these days we fight wars against armies with powerful air forces otherwise some might say that spending so much of our tax revenue on air superiority would be a tremendous waste leftover from a cold war mentality.

ikr why develop shit that we dont need today, forward planning is a terrible idea

Yes we must always be prepared for the inevitable military conflict with our perennial communist enemies.
Or maybe this century it will be the filthy Persians and Arabs. No matter who threatens freedom and democracy and all we hold dear and etc at this particular moment in time, america will always be prepared to level disproportionate force against whatever predominantly civilian population deemed necessary.

Stay vigilant, American patriots.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 26 2015 17:45 GMT
#38220
On May 27 2015 02:43 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:35 ahswtini wrote:
On May 27 2015 02:27 PassiveAce wrote:
Good thing these days we fight wars against armies with powerful air forces otherwise some might say that spending so much of our tax revenue on air superiority would be a tremendous waste leftover from a cold war mentality.

ikr why develop shit that we dont need today, forward planning is a terrible idea

Yes we must always be prepared for the inevitable military conflict with our perennial communist enemies.
Or maybe this century it will be the filthy Persians and Arabs. No matter who threatens freedom and democracy and all we hold dear and etc at this particular moment in time, america will always be prepared to level disproportionate force against whatever predominantly civilian population deemed necessary.

Stay vigilant, American patriots.

u dont wear a seatbelt cuz a carcrash is inevitable
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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