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Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-25 18:59:28
May 25 2015 18:58 GMT
#38041
Monkey king bar is a reference to, you know, sun wukong. The monkey king who carried around a 'bar' as a weapon.
The Monkey King, Sun Wukong, is the subject of the Chinese folk novel Journey to the West. His weapon, Ruyi Jingu Bang (如意金箍棒), is a magical iron rod with ends banded with gold. Although it weighs several tons, the Monkey King can shrink it at will and tuck it behind his ear and It can also grow at will and duplicate into an infinite number of individual rods.

The True Strike ability reference however, does not come from the magical rod, but from his eyes, Jin Jing Huoyan (金睛火眼). After he had been trapped in Bagua Lu (八卦爐) 49 days, his eyes was refined into Jin Jing Huoyan, granting him the ability to distinguish demons from humans known as True Sight.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 25 2015 18:59 GMT
#38042
wukong bar was invented by riot icefrog is a dirty plagiarizer
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 25 2015 19:00 GMT
#38043
HoN did it first
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-25 19:39:34
May 25 2015 19:23 GMT
#38044
that's fine and great. they stylized it that way and had someone tell all the voice actors to voice it that way. thank you for sharing because I had no idea and never paid attention to that bit of voice acting.

I'm merely putting it out there that with Japanese origins, the words are pronounced oddly, lol.
I'm not saying the monkey king bar is also something Japanese, (which it obviously isn't). if only by coincidence it's just also an item featured in PSO, which dota 1 borrowed random names of things from.
for example, the BKB was also an item in PSO and it was created with the MKB as a mat.
sange and yasha were separate items that could be combined into dual swords in PSO as well.
so yes, I'd wager it was a direct rip in that sense.

*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-25 19:45:56
May 25 2015 19:45 GMT
#38045
I'm confused, what is PSO?

Edit: nvm
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 25 2015 19:45 GMT
#38046
Phantasy Star Online
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 25 2015 20:13 GMT
#38047
Purge is retarded with his obsession with LE RADIANCE CLOCKWERK

please help.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 25 2015 20:15 GMT
#38048
On May 26 2015 05:13 Shaella wrote:
Purge is retarded with his obsession with LE RADIANCE CLOCKWERK

please help.

it's actually painful lmao
i think ur supposed to whine in the lr thread though
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
May 25 2015 20:18 GMT
#38049
got into LotV beta happy memorial day boys
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 25 2015 20:20 GMT
#38050
god bless the troops
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 25 2015 20:20 GMT
#38051
On May 26 2015 03:49 nanaoei wrote:
by no means good at linguistics or even english, but I have a small issue with how people (read:casters) pronounce the 'sange' portion of the sny. at the very least, it's a little misinformed and for some reason I find it a little annoying when it's pronounced, "say-nj". I'm sorry if that's just nitpicking, but I want to make it known at the very least.
it reminds me of how we pronounced zealot back in starcraft 1 days.
"zee-lot" ring a bell?

the item in dota is a reference to an item in Phantasy Star Online where yasha and monkey king bar are also in the same vein. even if that were not the case, it's a pretty weebs name for an item and I can't see it being Romanization for anything other than a Japanese word.
in both cases, it'd be, "sa-n-ge". sa as in "pasta", or "san" like the sc2 player or the word meaning mountain. and ge, sort of like "gay" or "geh", unlike the letter "J" or how you'd begin to pronounce "gyrocopter".
similarly, yasha would be "yā-sha", the "a" is not pronounced like the one used in "apple".

it should probably feel like two (or three) syllables and not just one like in the first example. sorry, just wanted to put that out there.

nope san-gay is wrong
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 25 2015 20:20 GMT
#38052
On May 26 2015 05:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
got into LotV beta happy memorial day boys

i played 1 game of that then realized its still sctoo lmao what an awful game
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-25 20:52:36
May 25 2015 20:22 GMT
#38053
On May 26 2015 05:20 Gosi wrote:
god bless the troops


without god or troops, there would be no legacy of the void beta #soblessed

On May 26 2015 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 05:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
got into LotV beta happy memorial day boys

i played 1 game of that then realized its still sctoo lmao what an awful game


ive always enjoyed starcraft and it SOUNDS like they fixed 2 of my major issues with the game

1) colossus

2) the fact that you can just max out on 2 bases and push into a zerg gg

EDIT

what the fuck am i seeing things..does the spirit breaker charge animation from the immortal have the letters "GG" in the particles???
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 25 2015 21:13 GMT
#38054
On May 26 2015 05:22 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 05:20 Gosi wrote:
god bless the troops


without god or troops, there would be no legacy of the void beta #soblessed

Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
On May 26 2015 05:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
got into LotV beta happy memorial day boys

i played 1 game of that then realized its still sctoo lmao what an awful game


ive always enjoyed starcraft and it SOUNDS like they fixed 2 of my major issues with the game

1) colossus

2) the fact that you can just max out on 2 bases and push into a zerg gg

EDIT

what the fuck am i seeing things..does the spirit breaker charge animation from the immortal have the letters "GG" in the particles???

pls screenshot
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 25 2015 21:17 GMT
#38055
comeh I registered as you on rapgenius and started annotating 3pac songs
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TL+ Member
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 25 2015 21:54 GMT
#38056
On May 26 2015 05:20 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 03:49 nanaoei wrote:
by no means good at linguistics or even english, but I have a small issue with how people (read:casters) pronounce the 'sange' portion of the sny. at the very least, it's a little misinformed and for some reason I find it a little annoying when it's pronounced, "say-nj". I'm sorry if that's just nitpicking, but I want to make it known at the very least.
it reminds me of how we pronounced zealot back in starcraft 1 days.
"zee-lot" ring a bell?

the item in dota is a reference to an item in Phantasy Star Online where yasha and monkey king bar are also in the same vein. even if that were not the case, it's a pretty weebs name for an item and I can't see it being Romanization for anything other than a Japanese word.
in both cases, it'd be, "sa-n-ge". sa as in "pasta", or "san" like the sc2 player or the word meaning mountain. and ge, sort of like "gay" or "geh", unlike the letter "J" or how you'd begin to pronounce "gyrocopter".
similarly, yasha would be "yā-sha", the "a" is not pronounced like the one used in "apple".

it should probably feel like two (or three) syllables and not just one like in the first example. sorry, just wanted to put that out there.

nope san-gay is wrong

ive pronounced it this way since dota 1 so im probably right here
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 25 2015 21:55 GMT
#38057
ee-jis, abba-don, etc
like who cares lmao
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 25 2015 21:58 GMT
#38058
it's ayyyyy gis tyvm
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 25 2015 22:04 GMT
#38059
On May 26 2015 06:54 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 05:20 ahswtini wrote:
On May 26 2015 03:49 nanaoei wrote:
by no means good at linguistics or even english, but I have a small issue with how people (read:casters) pronounce the 'sange' portion of the sny. at the very least, it's a little misinformed and for some reason I find it a little annoying when it's pronounced, "say-nj". I'm sorry if that's just nitpicking, but I want to make it known at the very least.
it reminds me of how we pronounced zealot back in starcraft 1 days.
"zee-lot" ring a bell?

the item in dota is a reference to an item in Phantasy Star Online where yasha and monkey king bar are also in the same vein. even if that were not the case, it's a pretty weebs name for an item and I can't see it being Romanization for anything other than a Japanese word.
in both cases, it'd be, "sa-n-ge". sa as in "pasta", or "san" like the sc2 player or the word meaning mountain. and ge, sort of like "gay" or "geh", unlike the letter "J" or how you'd begin to pronounce "gyrocopter".
similarly, yasha would be "yā-sha", the "a" is not pronounced like the one used in "apple".

it should probably feel like two (or three) syllables and not just one like in the first example. sorry, just wanted to put that out there.

nope san-gay is wrong

ive pronounced it this way since dota 1 so im probably right here

apparently the heroes in the game disagree with u, but i guess they havent been in the game since dota1
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-25 22:12:11
May 25 2015 22:09 GMT
#38060
On May 26 2015 06:13 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 05:22 BluemoonSC wrote:
On May 26 2015 05:20 Gosi wrote:
god bless the troops


without god or troops, there would be no legacy of the void beta #soblessed

On May 26 2015 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
On May 26 2015 05:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
got into LotV beta happy memorial day boys

i played 1 game of that then realized its still sctoo lmao what an awful game


ive always enjoyed starcraft and it SOUNDS like they fixed 2 of my major issues with the game

1) colossus

2) the fact that you can just max out on 2 bases and push into a zerg gg

EDIT

what the fuck am i seeing things..does the spirit breaker charge animation from the immortal have the letters "GG" in the particles???

pls screenshot


I'm out at a family party right now. if you YouTube the item there are a bunch of videos previewing the animation. It feels like it randomly produces the particles that spell "GG" in the blue trail behind bara

It's just the hoof things that, when they appear close together, appear to spell "GG"
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