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On April 15 2015 02:16 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 02:12 Comeh wrote:
its hard for me to tell if it was just becuase I was newer to the game, or if TI2 meta was actually just better. TI2 meta was way worse, I mean Naga/Lycan were like the top 2 P/B heroes, lol. It's just the storyline of TI2 led to a really dynamic series between Faith/Puppey's drafting that runs totally counter to the idea that a figured-out version leads to stale series where teams only pick the same shit. TI3 finals was still Bat+Wisp every fucking game.
Yeah, i kinda figured that was true (naga was played a bit...differently compared to how it is run now). I'm still kinda curious and wanna look back.
Something about shrapnel needs to change though - there are a slew of ways to nerf sniper and 1 or 2 will send that hero into obscurity again.
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i mean iirc right after TI2 was when icefrog removed morphling from the game and comeh was emo for literally over a year
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On April 15 2015 02:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
i mean iirc right after TI2 was when icefrog removed morphling from the game and comeh was emo for literally over a year
I'm still emo abou tthat.
i was like a 3.0k player at the time though so idk. That was honestly the largest over nerf ever tbh. Not IF's greatest hour
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On April 15 2015 02:16 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 02:15 SKC wrote:
TI3 finals > TI2 finals was always a very popular opinion. In which case the amount of "TI3 finals were just as shit, TI finals are just like that" that came out after the anticlimactic TI4 finals should have been more than a little surprising to you. Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 02:12 Comeh wrote:
its hard for me to tell if it was just becuase I was newer to the game, or if TI2 meta was actually just better. TI2 meta was way worse, I mean Naga/Lycan were like the top 2 P/B heroes, lol. It's just the storyline of TI2 led to a really dynamic series between Faith/Puppey's drafting that runs totally counter to the idea that a figured-out version leads to stale series where teams only pick the same shit. TI3 finals was still Bat+Wisp every fucking game.
Not that many people thought TI3 finals were as bad as TI4 finals. I really doubt that.
What really matters is that 5th game and that the series was back and forth before it. The other games hardly even matter. That grand finals will always be memorable because of how it ended, while the WB finals was what people remember about TI2.
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TI3 finals were one of those games where the quality of games were very low, but the entertainment value of the games were very high.
Lets be honest best finals TI1
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On April 15 2015 02:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
current comeback mechanics remain unjustifiable and fundamentally flawed and cannot be numerically tweaked to be both relevant and unharmful.
ur probably wrong
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w0w synd is pretty much dead weight in these FPL games lma0
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On April 15 2015 02:21 Comeh wrote:
i was like a 3.0k player at the time though so idk. That was honestly the largest over nerf ever tbh. Not IF's greatest hour
I'm pretty sure the collective sum of mechanics meant to nerf "deathball" strategies after TI4 was the largest overnerf.
Like if you consider the hero nerfs, glyph refresh on T1 kill, pre-nerf comeback mechanics, etc., it's pretty ridiculous how hard IF tried to hate that strat out of the game.
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On April 15 2015 02:25 Spicy_Curry wrote:
w0w synd is pretty much dead weight in these FPL games lma0
who is surprised? 
theres a reason he's a commentator now
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On April 15 2015 02:26 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 02:21 Comeh wrote:
i was like a 3.0k player at the time though so idk. That was honestly the largest over nerf ever tbh. Not IF's greatest hour I'm pretty sure the collective sum of mechanics meant to nerf "deathball" strategies after TI4 was the largest overnerf. Like if you consider the hero nerfs, glyph refresh on T1 kill, pre-nerf comeback mechanics, etc., it's pretty ridiculous how hard IF tried to hate that strat out of the game.
Erm, yeah that's true I was just talking about in terms of a specific singular hero
its also funny because it was like a culmination of 10 patches of trying to make games faster paced / end quicker.
LIKE YA OK IF YOU GET WHAT YOU WANTED
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If you disregard deleting a hero from the game. Can't get much worse than that.
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ti4 games were really good except for the finals and thats only because newbee was like 3x better
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I dislike the current patch really, all these changes from TI3 were made to fuck with the (old) almighty A and now look at what have the game become - tasteless pub games and uninteresting pro games. Pub stars teams arise and methodical strategy executions are less effective now thanks to the comeback mechanics.
That or teams are playing at a much higher level games right now or I'm getting too old to love dota like I used to do.
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On April 15 2015 02:22 Comeh wrote:
TI3 finals were one of those games where the quality of games were very low, but the entertainment value of the games were very high.
Lets be honest best finals TI1
TI1 was like history in the making or some shit
On April 15 2015 02:29 Spicy_Curry wrote:
ti4 games were really good except for the finals and thats only because newbee was like 3x better
if only eg didn't tilt after the newbee series
also i read on some reddit comment(so idk the legitimacy and i can't find the comment forgot which thread was it) that fy said on the stream during the grand finals against newbee after losing 2 games he was telling rotk to pick something else and not go push but rotk still followed his heart
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Even C9 had a chance of kicking VG out if they didn't gamble all of it in a lvl 1 Rosh with live audiance.
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On April 15 2015 02:33 goody153 wrote:
if only eg didn't tilt after the newbee series
also i read on some reddit comment(so idk the legitimacy and i can't find the comment forgot which thread was it) that fy said on the stream during the grand finals against newbee after losing 2 games he was telling rotk to pick something else and not go push but rotk still followed his heart
EG still wasn't going to go all the way when they literally wrote off DP as a hero they needed to play for that tournament, lol.
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On April 15 2015 02:34 SKC wrote:
Even C9 had a chance of kicking VG out if they didn't gamble all of it in a lvl 1 Rosh with live audiance.
what happend with dk against vg ? i didn't see it but pretty sure dk lost
the closest i've seen was c9 and eg .. also fucking c9 i remember thefuriousnoob(ee rl friend) trashtalking ee about why the fuck they went lvl 1 rosh on g3
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On April 15 2015 02:36 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 02:33 goody153 wrote:
if only eg didn't tilt after the newbee series
also i read on some reddit comment(so idk the legitimacy and i can't find the comment forgot which thread was it) that fy said on the stream during the grand finals against newbee after losing 2 games he was telling rotk to pick something else and not go push but rotk still followed his heart EG still wasn't going to go all the way when they literally wrote off DP as a hero they needed to play for that tournament, lol.
yeah lol
pretty sure artour played a good DP after TI4 so they shouldn't have done that
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Didn't DK vs VG have one of the top 3 throws of the tournament?
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