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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 14 2015 19:17 GMT
#26581
On April 15 2015 04:14 Comeh wrote:
You know, Ghost ship has to be one of the coolest spells in dota.

man kunkka what a hero.

x is still his best skill
playing against kunkka + storm is actually the worst thing in dota, bar none. And u thought goign high ground vs hohohaha was bad
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 14 2015 19:20 GMT
#26582
get it? because you're actually going right back to where you came from ahahahahahahahaha ur dead
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44290 Posts
April 14 2015 19:22 GMT
#26583
On April 15 2015 04:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 04:14 Comeh wrote:
You know, Ghost ship has to be one of the coolest spells in dota.

man kunkka what a hero.

x is still his best skill
playing against kunkka + storm is actually the worst thing in dota, bar none. And u thought goign high ground vs hohohaha was bad

at least they are harder to execute than hoho haha
this is a quote
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 14 2015 19:33 GMT
#26584
if you were to apply a 'vanilla test' to dota spells I think ghost ship would be the best spell in the game.
yea i know thats a totally pointless exercise in dota its just neat.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 14 2015 19:48 GMT
#26585
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1398628203

level 11 by 15 minutes on position "5" "i bought courier and sentries for riki and regen and dust and didnt get to do a bottle rush" wisp suck on that haters
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 19:52:56
April 14 2015 19:52 GMT
#26586
icefrog killed kunkka by remaking his X. he proly thinks he buffed it when its so much worse now
a kunkka hasnt been picked in pro scene since his rmk... u used to get the occasional kunkka pick every now and then
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 14 2015 19:52 GMT
#26587
rip 1-1-3-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 14 2015 19:57 GMT
#26588
just like tusk's "qol improvement" on the ult... tho that shards change was kinda legit
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 14 2015 20:14 GMT
#26589
Tusk just needs his ult to not be so weird and inconsistent. There are times I have thrown that ult and it should have connected. But he jumps and nothing happens.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 14 2015 20:15 GMT
#26590
tusk ult change hardly changes anything. That's far from a reason why he wasn't and isn't picked.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 14 2015 20:18 GMT
#26591
it messed up the feel of prepping it ahead of time... but yea that's true it's not the same story as kunkka
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#26592
Tusk is a bummer like Sven is a bummer. They are both cool, but don't do anything that another hero doesn't do better.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 14 2015 20:29 GMT
#26593
can you still walrus punch out of shadowblade and get the backstab damage? (i know the backstab damage wont crit)
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 14 2015 20:31 GMT
#26594
On April 15 2015 05:26 Plansix wrote:
Tusk is a bummer like Sven is a bummer. They are both cool, but don't do anything that another hero doesn't do better.

i'm sure there are situations where clutch snowball usage can't be done better by any other hero; i think tusk support has hidden potential for this reason

sven is the easiest anti-meepo carry in my book, much easier to execute than ember or even void
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 20:33:27
April 14 2015 20:31 GMT
#26595
On April 15 2015 02:50 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean he was far from dead weight he went 3-1 and called out so much shit and did so much legit 5 positioning

he wasn't even the losing factor in his losing game, his support zeus was legit too

like i know he's not consistently pro level but he was doing fine in FPL idk what spicy_curry was talking about


Synderen played a terrible zues that game r u serious. His ultimate was off cd the entire game especially when they had no vision of the opposing team. Most of the calls were from s4 anyway.
High Risk Low Reward
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 20:34:41
April 14 2015 20:33 GMT
#26596
On April 15 2015 05:31 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 02:50 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i mean he was far from dead weight he went 3-1 and called out so much shit and did so much legit 5 positioning

he wasn't even the losing factor in his losing game, his support zeus was legit too

like i know he's not consistently pro level but he was doing fine in FPL idk what spicy_curry was talking about


Synderen played a terrible zues that game r u serious. His ultimate was on cd the entire game especially when they had no vision of the opposing team. Most of the calls were from s4 anyway.

i think you missed the part where it got put on cd for scouting all-enemy-heroes-missing situations in the first place?

admittedly i missed like the last 10-15 minutes of that game but shit seemed solid and game seemed fine up until i stopped watching
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 20:34:58
April 14 2015 20:33 GMT
#26597
yea i meant off, should be pretty clear tho

did you see his AA game 10/10 terrible wasnt level 6 till 15 minutes into the game
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 14 2015 20:39 GMT
#26598
On April 15 2015 05:33 Spicy_Curry wrote:
yea i meant off, should be pretty clear tho

did you see his AA game 10/10 terrible wasnt level 6 till 15 minutes into the game

i mean i didnt see any major misplays aside from randomly suiciding mid trying to save a doomed teammate... his other early death that messed with his leveling was like a 1 for 2 trade that gave sf full souls, and it was the earthshaker leaving for a greedy stack attempt that let sf die afterwards. he was just sitting behind the sf without pulling in a tri v tri like a good support, of course that gets you underleveled... i imagine the enemy team's trilane was just as underleveled if not worse
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 20:40:50
April 14 2015 20:39 GMT
#26599
On April 15 2015 05:31 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:26 Plansix wrote:
Tusk is a bummer like Sven is a bummer. They are both cool, but don't do anything that another hero doesn't do better.

i'm sure there are situations where clutch snowball usage can't be done better by any other hero; i think tusk support has hidden potential for this reason

sven is the easiest anti-meepo carry in my book, much easier to execute than ember or even void


I always felt like the problem with Tusk is his skills scale too much for a support, but he's not high enough impact or safe enough to play 1 to 3 position. It feels like some utility part of one of his spells (snowball cooldown, snowball stun, shards cooldown, sigil's movement or attack slow, or something) should be more fixed and level independent. Especially since snowball movespeed scales with tusk's movespeed.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 20:43:57
April 14 2015 20:41 GMT
#26600
you could make an argument for 414 (or worse imo, 144) on support, but of course giving up extra nuke damage is always iffy
edit on second thought 144 is probably more legit than 414, i forgot the stun duration scaled (albeit shittily)
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