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TI 2023 thread: https://tl.net/forum/dota-2-general/617317-ti-2023
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 20 2021 15:33 GMT
#209621
D2 is mostly a fine game with fine mechanics, it's just missing rogue-like elements.
The cookie-clicker like endgame of action rpgs gives maximal carpal tunnel with minimal enjoyment.

There's probably QoL improvements and great innovations in other action RPG's but the core gameplay has not been solved.

If not for speedrunning I'd think the genre is hopeless.

I'm hoping for a good dota patch soon, last patches seemed filled with mostly anti-fun stuff so haven't touched the game.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 20 2021 17:17 GMT
#209622
On October 20 2021 23:52 PoulsenB wrote:
Man I hope AoE4 turns out to be good, it's been years since I played an RTS game, and I won't play SC2 anymore since blizzard is such a shitfest

Played aoe4 beta and it was kinda like aoe2. Though hardly played that so my frame of reference is not really something to go by.

It's not my type of game if I'm honest, apart from the campaign, which I probably will finish once it's on game pass, I won't really touch it.

But I'm not touching and competitive multiplayer anyway.

I guess the Mongols could be interesting with their entirely different mechanics, but that isn't quite clear yet to me. Haven't watched the recent gameplay showcase of them.
passive quaranstream fan
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 21 2021 09:21 GMT
#209623
On October 21 2021 02:17 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2021 23:52 PoulsenB wrote:
Man I hope AoE4 turns out to be good, it's been years since I played an RTS game, and I won't play SC2 anymore since blizzard is such a shitfest

Played aoe4 beta and it was kinda like aoe2. Though hardly played that so my frame of reference is not really something to go by.

It's not my type of game if I'm honest, apart from the campaign, which I probably will finish once it's on game pass, I won't really touch it.

But I'm not touching and competitive multiplayer anyway.

I guess the Mongols could be interesting with their entirely different mechanics, but that isn't quite clear yet to me. Haven't watched the recent gameplay showcase of them.

I'm actually interested in the multiplayer side, the gameplay I've seen looks fun if a bit slow compared to SC2.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-22 11:49:37
October 22 2021 11:48 GMT
#209624
I did not expect to wake up to the news that alec baldwin killed somebody.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/alec-baldwin-fires-gun-movie-set-killing-cinematographer-authorities-say-2021-10-22/
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 22 2021 13:49 GMT
#209625
The more I learn about the steamdeck the happier I am with my preorder.

From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 22 2021 14:03 GMT
#209626
On October 22 2021 20:48 PassiveAce wrote:
I did not expect to wake up to the news that alec baldwin killed somebody.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/alec-baldwin-fires-gun-movie-set-killing-cinematographer-authorities-say-2021-10-22/

tragic story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
October 22 2021 16:58 GMT
#209627
On October 22 2021 22:49 Unleashing wrote:
The more I learn about the steamdeck the happier I am with my preorder.


What did you learn?
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 22 2021 18:02 GMT
#209628
On October 23 2021 01:58 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2021 22:49 Unleashing wrote:
The more I learn about the steamdeck the happier I am with my preorder.


What did you learn?

eggscelent question
passive quaranstream fan
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-22 19:53:05
October 22 2021 19:52 GMT
#209629
It is strangely liberating to not be playing poe on new league launch
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
October 23 2021 07:43 GMT
#209630
On October 23 2021 04:52 PoulsenB wrote:
It is strangely liberating to not be playing poe on new league launch

It's been really smooth and really fun up until now.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
October 23 2021 08:33 GMT
#209631
On October 23 2021 16:43 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2021 04:52 PoulsenB wrote:
It is strangely liberating to not be playing poe on new league launch

It's been really smooth and really fun up until now.

I will probably play some after the weekend
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 23 2021 10:18 GMT
#209632
On October 23 2021 01:58 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2021 22:49 Unleashing wrote:
The more I learn about the steamdeck the happier I am with my preorder.


What did you learn?


&


From this month.

In general valve has been 100% transparent and open about it, hiding next to nothing. A lot of reviewers are allowed to test it out half a year before release and in general we're getting tons of footage and information constantly.

I'm in general a fan of Linus Tech Tips for reviews, so this video from a while back was also good:

From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
October 23 2021 23:03 GMT
#209633
Yea but Valve being Valve I would not expect them to know what the hell a steam deck is in a year.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 09:11:59
October 24 2021 09:11 GMT
#209634
I mean, I feel like that's a bit of a meme.

Steam link? Hardware was scrapped because software and apps could achieve the same, there's still development on it and it's still functional, just now as an app.

Steam controller? 100% scrapped, but lots of the technology has clearly been refined into the steam deck. Also the steam controller software was expanded and now works for any controller on steam, which has been a godsend.

Steam VR? 100% supported and active development

Steam Big Picture? Continual support since release and now getting an overhaul for the steam deck.

Steam machines? Were a collab between valve and other companies like alienware that ended up scrapped because it just wasn't a product people wanted.

Sure products that people weren't ultimately too into eventually got scrapped (Steam controllers after 4 years, steam machines almost right away due to no interest) but that just makes sense, and almost all their other products were either developed further or branched out in different ways, like how steam link went from hardware to software.

If there's interest and money in the steam deck, of course it'll keep getting support.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-24 18:29:18
October 24 2021 10:55 GMT
#209635
I don't see the "interest and money" considering it's only available online, over steam, not worlwide and pre orders now have to wait till almost 2023 for one.

I don't know, the deck seems pretty fine, it's a lot of what's around that makes me not have faith in it.

I don't see Valve having a lot of faith in it's own product, when it's so restricted in scope. And yes, Valve could definitely have it on Amazon, Walmart, etc... Day 1

I do want one, even tho i think a laptop with those specs might not be that much more expensive in 2022-2023...
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 24 2021 21:56 GMT
#209636
I play my first dota game in like 9 months and somehow every player on the opposing team has 150 APM more than anyone on mine while stomping every lane. Idk if it's smurfs or otherwise crappy matchmaking but it sure isn't motivating.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-25 12:20:48
October 25 2021 12:20 GMT
#209637


I love my country 🤦‍♂️
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 25 2021 14:16 GMT
#209638
Wasn't göring one of the worst german generals? I thought he overestimated the luftwaffe and wound up wasting a bunch of resources on impossible missions.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
October 25 2021 14:26 GMT
#209639
German efficiency in war is a myth anyways.
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 25 2021 14:48 GMT
#209640
Prussian efficiency, however...
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