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FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
September 24 2014 10:16 GMT
#521
Sven with Aghas in Push lineups. Wow.

This patch is so huge o.o
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
September 24 2014 10:16 GMT
#522
i'm pretty sure the gold and xp change is a decimal point error.
wrathofanima
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom7 Posts
September 24 2014 10:26 GMT
#523
On September 24 2014 19:00 Asymmetric wrote:
So... whats the verdict on the new PL?

How good actually is the speed boost on the passive with 10 illusions out.

Tried PL out last night on test client vs bots. Feels like he'll have a much bigger midgame teamfight impact, especially with diffusal blade. He can get a tonne of illusions way earlier, as soon as you hit 6 you pretty much always have at least one illusion if you're hitting stuff.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 24 2014 10:29 GMT
#524
On September 24 2014 19:08 Nymzee wrote:
sven support with magnus mid and PA carry

this is what you dream about

You mean sven with drow + visage.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2014 10:32 GMT
#525
On September 24 2014 17:24 lolnoty wrote:
I didnt do maths because hard, but that graphic makes those xp and gold changes seem insane.

edit: reading reddit and it clears up why that graphic is a little misleading. it's about team net worth ratio lead, so that picture has an insane total ratio lead. in a real game the worst a game gets is 2:1 net worth which is far less than that picture was exampling.

Yeah, I thought those examples seemed a bit unrealistic. It's basiclly a hero with zero gold killing one with over 7k or more gold. Real games will be a lot closer.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 24 2014 10:42 GMT
#526
Meepo clones' boot item slots now match whichever slot Meepo Prime has his boots in


R u 4 rela valve
I changed my hotkey setup for this shit

11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 24 2014 10:42 GMT
#527
On September 24 2014 19:32 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 17:24 lolnoty wrote:
I didnt do maths because hard, but that graphic makes those xp and gold changes seem insane.

edit: reading reddit and it clears up why that graphic is a little misleading. it's about team net worth ratio lead, so that picture has an insane total ratio lead. in a real game the worst a game gets is 2:1 net worth which is far less than that picture was exampling.

Yeah, I thought those examples seemed a bit unrealistic. It's basiclly a hero with zero gold killing one with over 7k or more gold. Real games will be a lot closer.

I can easily see teams letting poor supports get last hits for a huge influx of gold, though. It definitely changes things.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
September 24 2014 10:47 GMT
#528
On September 24 2014 19:42 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 19:32 Plansix wrote:
On September 24 2014 17:24 lolnoty wrote:
I didnt do maths because hard, but that graphic makes those xp and gold changes seem insane.

edit: reading reddit and it clears up why that graphic is a little misleading. it's about team net worth ratio lead, so that picture has an insane total ratio lead. in a real game the worst a game gets is 2:1 net worth which is far less than that picture was exampling.

Yeah, I thought those examples seemed a bit unrealistic. It's basiclly a hero with zero gold killing one with over 7k or more gold. Real games will be a lot closer.

I can easily see teams letting poor supports get last hits for a huge influx of gold, though. It definitely changes things.


Still better to let the carry get the last hit. The amount of gold possessed by the last hitter changes nothing. It's the team networths and the targets networth that affects things.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
September 24 2014 10:49 GMT
#529
guys, it does not matter who gets the lasthit.

This change only affects the extra Gold given if within an area after a kill.
It does not affect the natural Gold received for killing a hero of a certain Level/Streak.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 24 2014 10:50 GMT
#530
Seriously though, I'm waiting for The Play where players at top and mid drop big items just before a kill happens bottom.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 24 2014 10:51 GMT
#531
With C. Guard coming, does that mean tanky heroes like Razor and Viper should go Crimson Guard or stick with Meka? They'll need Arcane now which is eh
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
September 24 2014 10:52 GMT
#532
On September 24 2014 19:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Seriously though, I'm waiting for The Play where players at top and mid drop big items just before a kill happens bottom.

this is totally an EE thing.

in EE-sama we trust
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 24 2014 10:53 GMT
#533
I'm waiting for it to back fire hard
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
September 24 2014 10:54 GMT
#534
On September 24 2014 19:53 Targe wrote:
I'm waiting for it to back fire hard


"okay im dropping my items now"
"wait what you havent got the kill yet?"
"oh shit he stole my items"
"gg boys"

yesssss
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 24 2014 10:55 GMT
#535
Mek will be better on razor cos of what he wanyts to achieve as a hero
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 24 2014 10:55 GMT
#536
On September 24 2014 19:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
With C. Guard coming, does that mean tanky heroes like Razor and Viper should go Crimson Guard or stick with Meka? They'll need Arcane now which is eh

They won't have the mana to support mek, so probably CG unless their farm is completely terrible. Mek's pretty much limited to int heroes now.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 24 2014 10:55 GMT
#537
On September 24 2014 19:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Seriously though, I'm waiting for The Play where players at top and mid drop big items just before a kill happens bottom.

I...can't remember the specifics, but I thought there was a change made that dropping your items didn't change your networth. The item itself has to be destroyed? Has anyone actually tested this item dropping thing in a test game?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44121 Posts
September 24 2014 10:55 GMT
#538
Storm Buff
PL Buff or Nerf(well see)
Naga is left untouched
Meepo Buff(now changing boots in the inventory has never been cooler)
WR buff(yes i can change my ingame name now)

DP Nerf
Razor Nerf
Doom Nerf

and a big Fuck You to Faceless Void

Good patch(aside from the crazy rune rework .. looking forward for the talk shows of this)
this is a quote
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 24 2014 10:57 GMT
#539
On September 24 2014 19:54 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 19:53 Targe wrote:
I'm waiting for it to back fire hard


"okay im dropping my items now"
"wait what you havent got the kill yet?"
"oh shit he stole my items"
"gg boys"

yesssss


EEs bkb is going to get stolen



+ Show Spoiler +
oh wait
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
September 24 2014 10:57 GMT
#540
Wow. Just wow. Everything is completely different.

Bounty hunter making a big comeback with aoe shurikens and bigger rewards from ganks with the new game mechanics?

Dota Treant with aghs now = Hon Treant?

I could ramble on about my personal thoughts on how this patch will change the game, but I don't have the time or energy. However, I will say imo this will make for some very interesting and exciting dota; alot more room for risk/reward, big plays, while not hindering the teamfight push meta and alllowing older metas to get some life breathed back into them.

But what do i know

Either way, I think I will be back to watching/playing quite a bit more dota than I had been post TI4 :D
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
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