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On September 24 2014 11:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
So, Undying is buffed, Abaddon wasn't nerfed, life of support is clearly better nowdays and ancient stacking is dead.
#worthreading
Even though, i'm rather dissatisfied with those Void's "nerfs". And Doom's as well.
*walks away to play Sven support*
Not satisfied with Doom needing Aghs to get his old ult damage? It's pretty ass right now.
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On September 24 2014 10:55 hazefrog wrote:
all units hit by OD Agh's ult now lose 75% of current mana, even if bkb'd?
am i reading that right?
Yeah, on Bruno stream they theorised a build of refresher aghs entire enemy team 0 mana
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On September 24 2014 11:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 11:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
So, Undying is buffed, Abaddon wasn't nerfed, life of support is clearly better nowdays and ancient stacking is dead.
#worthreading
Even though, i'm rather dissatisfied with those Void's "nerfs". And Doom's as well.
*walks away to play Sven support* Not satisfied with Doom needing Aghs to get his old ult damage? It's pretty ass right now.
I have to agree, the Doom damage nerf on top of not disabling passives is pretty big (same with Chronosphere).
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On September 24 2014 11:06 Baozi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 10:55 hazefrog wrote:
all units hit by OD Agh's ult now lose 75% of current mana, even if bkb'd?
am i reading that right? Agh's only, thank GabeN
farm blink, get aghs, screw carrying. just ult everyone and youre going to win the teamfight. biggest buff on the patch. i love OD so im okay with it. hahaha.
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> Space created
> Zeus ult now!
The chat wheel is amazing now
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On September 24 2014 10:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 09:45 rebdomine wrote:On September 24 2014 09:27 Gevna wrote:
I dont get why IF had to kill tinker, slight nerfs would have been enough, even if I'm not sure it was needed at a competitive level. Well whatever just have to wait 10 patches of small buffs to have fun with him again.
Still can't wait to try this patch. How is he "killed"? They hardly touched his laning. If anything they just made it so that losing your lane is unforgivable as you can't catch up by just farming ancients. He's still going to be a bitch to push into, he's still going to be a bitch to track down when he has his items up. He's in an okay spot right now. It's not like Tinker has difficulty winning mid. Dagon nerf, Eblade nerf
eb dagon never was and never will be the only way to play Tinker
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On September 24 2014 10:42 Carwash wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 10:37 Fumanchu wrote:On September 24 2014 10:36 CruelZeratul wrote:On September 24 2014 10:33 Fumanchu wrote:
Duel no longer disables passives.
Welp so long LC, it was fun playing you for a while. LC has a pretty strong passive herself which should be insanely helpful in the duel. I just meant the reason I played LC was to counter end game heroes like PA and Void or even BB. I can't do that anymore. Do you know how Bristle's passive works??
You duel him and then your team can beat the tar out of him regardless of where they are. And not have to worry about getting an increased amount of quill stacks.
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On September 24 2014 11:10 Baozi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 11:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:On September 24 2014 11:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
So, Undying is buffed, Abaddon wasn't nerfed, life of support is clearly better nowdays and ancient stacking is dead.
#worthreading
Even though, i'm rather dissatisfied with those Void's "nerfs". And Doom's as well.
*walks away to play Sven support* Not satisfied with Doom needing Aghs to get his old ult damage? It's pretty ass right now. I have to agree, the Doom damage nerf on top of not disabling passives is pretty big (same with Chronosphere).
Void came out pretty fine this patch. The major adjustment will be to his late game item progression: MKB is now a necessity and you'll probably have to sack MoM for it. On the other hand, the overall changes seem to implicitly buff him as a safelane carry.
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On September 24 2014 11:12 Stancel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 10:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On September 24 2014 09:45 rebdomine wrote:On September 24 2014 09:27 Gevna wrote:
I dont get why IF had to kill tinker, slight nerfs would have been enough, even if I'm not sure it was needed at a competitive level. Well whatever just have to wait 10 patches of small buffs to have fun with him again.
Still can't wait to try this patch. How is he "killed"? They hardly touched his laning. If anything they just made it so that losing your lane is unforgivable as you can't catch up by just farming ancients. He's still going to be a bitch to push into, he's still going to be a bitch to track down when he has his items up. He's in an okay spot right now. It's not like Tinker has difficulty winning mid. Dagon nerf, Eblade nerf eb dagon never was and never will be the only way to play Tinker
Yeah, I'm actually quite happy with going back to hex/shivas Tinker. That shit is so cool as well.
Also Blood Rage Zeus Refresher + Blood Rage NP Refresher = the other team is fucked.
And PL looks quite fun now - his new ability is like a blink, and the charge is cool as well.
Actually - how will the new PL passive work with pulling creep aggro? Hmm...
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haha we're superior mobas now
I was enjoying watching pro 6.81 recently though (boring picks, exciting games) as the patch settled. Not so sure about all these upcoming LANs on this crazy patch
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On September 24 2014 11:15 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 11:10 Baozi wrote:On September 24 2014 11:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:On September 24 2014 11:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
So, Undying is buffed, Abaddon wasn't nerfed, life of support is clearly better nowdays and ancient stacking is dead.
#worthreading
Even though, i'm rather dissatisfied with those Void's "nerfs". And Doom's as well.
*walks away to play Sven support* Not satisfied with Doom needing Aghs to get his old ult damage? It's pretty ass right now. I have to agree, the Doom damage nerf on top of not disabling passives is pretty big (same with Chronosphere). Void came out pretty fine this patch. The major adjustment will be to his late game item progression: MKB is now a necessity and you'll probably have to sack MoM for it. On the other hand, the overall changes seem to implicitly buff him as a safelane carry.
But MoM 100 gold less!!
That's like... FREE!!
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So long as you click on then from outside creep aggro range he'll go straight in and get a few free hits. PL actually looks pretty fun now.
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Oh I totally missed the all-pick change. That sucks. Why make it semi captains mode :-/
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Looks good. Rune changes kinda iffy though.... Basically permanent bottle regen mid for both sides. Otherwise you have to time that someone else grabs the opposite rune of you when it spawns, which will never happen in pubs.
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that's for ranked only i think, the ap one
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On September 24 2014 10:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 10:52 Kuroeeah wrote:On September 24 2014 10:49 CosmicSpiral wrote:On September 24 2014 10:45 Skyro wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why people are bitching about the elevated fountain change? Doesn't it just hinder fountain griefing when the game is already over?
Also I like the rune change. It promotes more active supports in the early game to help with rune control, something they should've already been doing but now it is made more explicit/beneficial. Haven't supports been hogging runes throughout 6.81? not really Really? I remember there was a certain period of time where mids didn't even bother to rotate for runes. Instead, they left them to the supports/offlaner.
Big reason why is because most heroes that were prevalent during the patch like Naga, Tinker, Viper, Brew and Razer has little to no rune control in the first place whereas before heroes like QoP and Puck that has relatively easy access to runes would contest it more. Not like you want to say no to a haste rune if your a TA or something like that.
I saw more cases where the rune is of some value, a support (assuming the enemy offlaner isn't doing contesting it) would just guard it until the mid can get there.
So my interpretation of this change which might be wrong is that it provides a happy middle ground so that "tempo" mids can be more viable without killing off mid heroes that enjoys farming.
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On September 24 2014 11:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Oh I totally missed the all-pick change. That sucks. Why make it semi captains mode :-/
Because people were annoyed with how often players would just wait till the last second just to counterpick, and then have their teammates pause the game just to prevent losing gold.
I don't think this is the best answer, but that shit was fucking dumb. Having to wait like 2 minutes longer for a game to start because one or both teams are trying to counterpick each other in an all pick game? Come on, your rating is not that important.
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The retarded shit about the change is that it's still retaining the name all pick.
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On September 24 2014 11:26 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 11:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Oh I totally missed the all-pick change. That sucks. Why make it semi captains mode :-/ Because people were annoyed with how often players would just wait till the last second just to counterpick, and then have their teammates pause the game just to prevent losing gold. I don't think this is the best answer, but that shit was fucking dumb. Having to wait like 2 minutes longer for a game to start because one or both teams are trying to counterpick each other in an all pick game? Come on, your rating is not that important.
Yeah, plus it was a vicious cycle since if you don't know what your team is picking you can't really make an intelligent pick yourself. Can't even count the number of times I was pick 4/5, took a mid or carry because we didn't have one, and pick 5/5 took another mid or carry that completely ruined the team comp.
On the topic of the patch timing, first of all there's no off-season so you may as well release the patch when it's ready. Second of all it's not like IF just cooked up all these changes since TI4 and is shitting them out now to reset the meta as a goal unto itself. Especially with the map design, these things have been in the making for a long time--that leaked image of the rosh pit was from 2 years ago
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On September 24 2014 11:27 Kuroeeah wrote:
The retarded shit about the change is that it's still retaining the name all pick.
You still get to pick from all the heroes. There is just a picking order now.
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