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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 16:43 GMT
#130261
It doesn't need to, because your main guy regens to full and then the illusions are unkillable by creeps anyway.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 16:44:50
September 17 2014 16:44 GMT
#130262
On September 18 2014 01:41 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 01:40 andyrau wrote:
you're missing the point of getting a heart in the first place

the passive is ridiculously good

yah ..

does it work on illusions ? i have not noticed

no but that's not the point either lol
when you create illusions they're all at full health and they're a lot tankier with the static attribute bonuses
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7081 Posts
September 17 2014 16:44 GMT
#130263
On September 17 2014 20:11 Kupon3ss wrote:
its better by the simple fact that the drow got this bkb item that made her not die instantly


you just went full clairvoyance with that sentence

also Loda's naga is pretty good
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 16:55:06
September 17 2014 16:47 GMT
#130264
On September 18 2014 01:43 Kipsate wrote:
Loda is a pretty damn good Naga I'd say, not sure if EE is better then him.

Honestly, I think hes a pretty bad naga comparatively.

His micro is pretty bad - he really doesn't split his illusions very well, usually doesnt cut creeps well, etc etc, his decision making is decent, but really when I watch it I just get the impression he is carried by his teammates when he plays naga, rather than being the 1 man carry that naga usually is.

pajkatt is probably about loda-level of a naga.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 17 2014 16:59 GMT
#130265
He doesn't farm as well as EE but his decision making is top notch I feel.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 17:56:07
September 17 2014 17:55 GMT
#130266
My only memories of Loda naga are idle illusions when he could have taken rax, happened like 3x in 1 game or when he sent all his illusions on some support who just walked to the well and thus ended the push that he could have taken rax/won the game.

:crazy:

Really pointless anecdotes but I that's all I see in my head when I hear Loda Naga.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 17 2014 17:58 GMT
#130267
On September 18 2014 02:55 crms wrote:
My only memories of Loda naga are idle illusions when he could have taken rax, happened like 3x in 1 game or when he sent all his illusions on some support who just walked to the well and thus ended the push that he could have taken rax/won the game.

:crazy:

Really pointless anecdotes but I that's all I see in my head when I hear Loda Naga.

was this the game when loda was on dire taking top rax and AUI was commentating
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 17 2014 18:01 GMT
#130268
that was the game aui critiqued loda for and loda started a twitter war in response yes.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 17 2014 18:05 GMT
#130269
On September 18 2014 03:01 Kuroeeah wrote:
that was the game aui critiqued loda for and loda started a twitter war in response yes.

iirc he was playing PL in that game.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 17 2014 18:06 GMT
#130270
On September 18 2014 03:05 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 03:01 Kuroeeah wrote:
that was the game aui critiqued loda for and loda started a twitter war in response yes.

iirc he was playing PL in that game.

oh my bad, you're right.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 18:06 GMT
#130271
Jakiro is actually overpowered. I didn't believe it until I tried it.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 17 2014 18:08 GMT
#130272
yeah, that game was PL. Really though, just about the same thing as I notice about his Naga, inefficient illusion control. I mean he's not bad, he just plays it about as well/slightly worse that any professional gamer would be expected to play naga.

He's certainly no Meracle on the hero.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 18:09 GMT
#130273
PL micro is super easy. If you've ever gotten into Platinum in SC2, you should be able to micro PL with zero effort. Naga could be a little more difficult, if you're last-hitting.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 17 2014 18:10 GMT
#130274
if you could set permanent ilu hotkeys naga would be so much ezier
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 18:11 GMT
#130275
Yup. I've also never really gotten the hang of DOTA2 unit control. There's something about it that feels different than Blizzard unit control.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 17 2014 18:20 GMT
#130276
On September 18 2014 03:06 Acritter wrote:
Jakiro is actually overpowered. I didn't believe it until I tried it.

Lol, 2 0 4 1 is really funny to play. I got to play him solo safe lane in a 1v1. That Wraith King was the saddest player ever during the laning stage.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 17 2014 18:21 GMT
#130277
It think it has more to do with Warcraft 3 verses both Starcraft games (SC2 to a larger extent). In terms of pace, both Starcraft games are just faster games than Wc3 ever was. I just assume DotA 2 is trying to remain accurate with how Wc3 DotA feels
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
September 17 2014 18:23 GMT
#130278
On September 18 2014 03:21 Kuroeeah wrote:
It think it has more to do with Warcraft 3 verses both Starcraft games (SC2 to a larger extent). In terms of pace, both Starcraft games are just faster games than Wc3 ever was. I just assume DotA 2 is trying to remain accurate with how Wc3 DotA feels

I think wc3 micro translates better in dota then sc2, because in wc3 u micro less pop armys with bigger units.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 18:29 GMT
#130279
On September 18 2014 03:21 Kuroeeah wrote:
It think it has more to do with Warcraft 3 verses both Starcraft games (SC2 to a larger extent). In terms of pace, both Starcraft games are just faster games than Wc3 ever was. I just assume DotA 2 is trying to remain accurate with how Wc3 DotA feels

Nah, WC3 micro is easypeasy. Controls feel natural. I think it's an engine thing.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 17 2014 18:33 GMT
#130280
Probably but this discussion is entering familiar territory. A lot of league or especially Hon players will just be under the impression playing dota 2 for the first time thinking it's laggy or something in comparison.
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