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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
September 17 2014 20:25 GMT
#130301
On September 18 2014 04:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I wonder. Has anyone played Treads/Drum/Diffusal Naga recently? Compares pretty decently to similar concepts on Specter and PA IMO.

Well, by PA i think you mean PL, which is currently an awful hero, and The whole point of spectre is the global presence and threat of buyback haunt, so if it compares to those just the plain fighting ability of either hero, its probably pretty awful.


If you actually meant PA, then its even more awful.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 17 2014 20:26 GMT
#130302
Guys why isn't this guy in Dota
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=140680
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 17 2014 20:30 GMT
#130303
Clearly we're not superior enough to have such a champion.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 17 2014 20:31 GMT
#130304
is that op's avatar the league version of sny?
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 17 2014 20:32 GMT
#130305
My god, where do you find this non-sense?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 17 2014 20:32 GMT
#130306
On September 18 2014 05:25 Tephus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 04:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I wonder. Has anyone played Treads/Drum/Diffusal Naga recently? Compares pretty decently to similar concepts on Specter and PA IMO.

Well, by PA i think you mean PL, which is currently an awful hero, and The whole point of spectre is the global presence and threat of buyback haunt, so if it compares to those just the plain fighting ability of either hero, its probably pretty awful.


If you actually meant PA, then its even more awful.


Did you hear the whoosh? That was the comparison going straight past you.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 17 2014 20:34 GMT
#130307
do you even moba
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 20:39 GMT
#130308
On September 18 2014 05:25 Tephus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 04:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I wonder. Has anyone played Treads/Drum/Diffusal Naga recently? Compares pretty decently to similar concepts on Specter and PA IMO.

Well, by PA i think you mean PL, which is currently an awful hero, and The whole point of spectre is the global presence and threat of buyback haunt, so if it compares to those just the plain fighting ability of either hero, its probably pretty awful.


If you actually meant PA, then its even more awful.

Uh.

Treads/Drums (or more often Phase/Drums) is an early fighting build. It's good on basically every hero in the game. The only thing better for early fighting is fast Mek on certain heroes, or the occasional mid hero's Treads/Bottle/Stick/double Null.

The more you know.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 17 2014 20:39 GMT
#130309
no1 truly mobas
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 17 2014 20:42 GMT
#130310
what about a fast mek on gyro I heard some pros like the build a lot
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 20:44 GMT
#130311
On September 18 2014 05:42 andyrau wrote:
what about a fast mek on gyro I heard some pros like the build a lot

Really doesn't sound that bad. He's definitely a hero with a major early timing. I'm not totally sold on it, though.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 17 2014 20:45 GMT
#130312
fast mek shadow fiend is much better and many pros will agree
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 20:51 GMT
#130313
Teamerino Tinkerino casually trying to lose a game with Dire Lycan.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 17 2014 20:52 GMT
#130314
They need a challenge.
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 17 2014 20:53 GMT
#130315
massing nulls is really bad on furion

if you want the do-shit early game build just get a mek

if you want /damage/ just get another hero

those are the only two options because massing nulls on furion is pants on head retarded
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 20:54 GMT
#130316
Difference is that Furion can be anywhere on the map whenever he wants.
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
September 17 2014 20:55 GMT
#130317
On September 18 2014 05:39 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 05:25 Tephus wrote:
On September 18 2014 04:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I wonder. Has anyone played Treads/Drum/Diffusal Naga recently? Compares pretty decently to similar concepts on Specter and PA IMO.

Well, by PA i think you mean PL, which is currently an awful hero, and The whole point of spectre is the global presence and threat of buyback haunt, so if it compares to those just the plain fighting ability of either hero, its probably pretty awful.


If you actually meant PA, then its even more awful.

Uh.

Treads/Drums (or more often Phase/Drums) is an early fighting build. It's good on basically every hero in the game. The only thing better for early fighting is fast Mek on certain heroes, or the occasional mid hero's Treads/Bottle/Stick/double Null.

The more you know.

Yes, but he was asking about diffusal... Which that build is only really good on Spectre, and only because of things specific to that hero.

It's 'good' on PL, but in a relative sense, as PL is still bad with that build.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 17 2014 20:55 GMT
#130318
On September 18 2014 05:55 Tephus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 05:39 Acritter wrote:
On September 18 2014 05:25 Tephus wrote:
On September 18 2014 04:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I wonder. Has anyone played Treads/Drum/Diffusal Naga recently? Compares pretty decently to similar concepts on Specter and PA IMO.

Well, by PA i think you mean PL, which is currently an awful hero, and The whole point of spectre is the global presence and threat of buyback haunt, so if it compares to those just the plain fighting ability of either hero, its probably pretty awful.


If you actually meant PA, then its even more awful.

Uh.

Treads/Drums (or more often Phase/Drums) is an early fighting build. It's good on basically every hero in the game. The only thing better for early fighting is fast Mek on certain heroes, or the occasional mid hero's Treads/Bottle/Stick/double Null.

The more you know.

Yes, but he was asking about diffusal... Which that build is only really good on Spectre, and only because of things specific to that hero.

It's 'good' on PL, but in a relative sense, as PL is still bad with that build.

He said the word "similar." That should have clued you in.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
September 17 2014 21:09 GMT
#130319
On September 18 2014 05:55 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 05:55 Tephus wrote:
On September 18 2014 05:39 Acritter wrote:
On September 18 2014 05:25 Tephus wrote:
On September 18 2014 04:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I wonder. Has anyone played Treads/Drum/Diffusal Naga recently? Compares pretty decently to similar concepts on Specter and PA IMO.

Well, by PA i think you mean PL, which is currently an awful hero, and The whole point of spectre is the global presence and threat of buyback haunt, so if it compares to those just the plain fighting ability of either hero, its probably pretty awful.


If you actually meant PA, then its even more awful.

Uh.

Treads/Drums (or more often Phase/Drums) is an early fighting build. It's good on basically every hero in the game. The only thing better for early fighting is fast Mek on certain heroes, or the occasional mid hero's Treads/Bottle/Stick/double Null.

The more you know.

Yes, but he was asking about diffusal... Which that build is only really good on Spectre, and only because of things specific to that hero.

It's 'good' on PL, but in a relative sense, as PL is still bad with that build.

He said the word "similar." That should have clued you in.


Then it doesn't compare at all. The reason you get a radiance on naga is so she can farm the map, and eventually be relevant with 6 slots. Without all those items, the hero isnt relevant.

An early fighting Naga is pretty useless, as the illusions die easily to any aoe, and she does doesn't do any damage. In a support role she can fight early as she isnt used for damage. She is used for CC, - armour, and engaging/disengaging.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 17 2014 21:15 GMT
#130320


Superior MOBA invokes their inner-Linkin Park animation
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