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On September 03 2014 05:13 andyrau wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 04:37 tehh4ck3r wrote:On September 03 2014 04:02 andyrau wrote:
rubick needs a small buff to his lift cd
20+s is way too much
and I want the old aghs mechanic back the new aghs upgrade is still really good though, CD reduction and range increase are awesome well I was talking about the other mechanic where if you stole an aghs upgraded ult you'd have the same effect regardless of whether you have an aghs or not reason being it's almost impossible to get an aghs as a support rubick anyways, you are always going to prioritize positioning items over such an expensive item
Rubick Aghs deserves a major buff. Like, 0 mc 0s cooldown at 16 or something absurd like that. It's not like the hero's broken right now, and there's no way that the buff would make the support too strong. It would just make him a really interesting situational mid, and would allow the hero to do what the backstory implies: stealing spells throughout the entirety of a fight, laying down more and more types of magic as it progresses. Right now, with the support Rubick, most of what happens is him stealing one really fucking good spell and abusing the everloving hell out of it, which is cool but not quite as cool.
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On September 03 2014 05:23 Targe wrote:
damn so i faced a decent earth spirit and it makes me cringe to think how op he must have been when he had that insta stun
most fun iv ever had playing video games.
rip
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Maybe something where the cooldown on Spellsteal is determined by the cooldown of what you steal, with low CDs at 0s scaling up to 20-30s for things like Black Hole, RP or Chaotic Offering. So if you get Ravage, then great; you've got an awesome spell but you've got it for a bit. If you miss and get Anchor Smash, you use Anchor Smash and can immediately or almost immediately get something else. Not as an Agh's upgrade, either.
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that seems hilariously dumb and overpowered of an idea. rubick is fine where he is, just doesn't fit all too well into the current meta.
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0s cd on rubick might actually make him broken.
And i'm not usually one for aghs buffs doing anything at all.
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that sounds over-complicated even for dota.
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On September 03 2014 05:38 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 05:23 Targe wrote:
damn so i faced a decent earth spirit and it makes me cringe to think how op he must have been when he had that insta stun most fun iv ever had playing video games. rip
I really wish that I was better at him, but I'm exceptionally bad at pressing buttons in the correct order.
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If you give 0s on rubick he can steal rp, use rp, steal an enemy spell, then steal rp again and rp's cooldown will be 0, making him a perma-stunner... not what icefrog is looking for.
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On September 03 2014 05:56 ben_ballad wrote:
If you give 0s on rubick he can steal rp, use rp, steal an enemy spell, then steal rp again and rp's cooldown will be 0, making him a perma-stunner... not what icefrog is looking for.
You can just give him spell memory where all the spells he steals keep their cool downs. The zero second cool down sounds just amusing enough to be ok in my book.
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Technically with aghs u could aready chain say bhole + chrono lol although tahts pretty unfeasible
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On September 03 2014 06:00 Sn0_Man wrote:
Technically with aghs u could aready chain say bhole + chrono lol although tahts pretty unfeasible
Well, not with Black Hole...can't exactly steal+cast a spell while channeling.
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Well, okay there'd be very brief time space but rubick has a 0.1s cast point so the enemies would have .2s assuming rubick is in melee range of the void + enigma.
Like u chrono (level 16 w/aghs = 6s) then with 1s left u steal hole, hole on the end of chrono (4s), and then ur steal is off cd when hole ends so u re-steal chrono and cycle it.
Like i said this isn't feasible but it's more or less possible.
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i saw you guys talking about PL and i'm just here to say that heros fucking awful now.
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On September 03 2014 05:30 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 05:13 andyrau wrote:On September 03 2014 04:37 tehh4ck3r wrote:On September 03 2014 04:02 andyrau wrote:
rubick needs a small buff to his lift cd
20+s is way too much
and I want the old aghs mechanic back the new aghs upgrade is still really good though, CD reduction and range increase are awesome well I was talking about the other mechanic where if you stole an aghs upgraded ult you'd have the same effect regardless of whether you have an aghs or not reason being it's almost impossible to get an aghs as a support rubick anyways, you are always going to prioritize positioning items over such an expensive item Rubick Aghs deserves a major buff. Like, 0 mc 0s cooldown at 16 or something absurd like that. It's not like the hero's broken right now, and there's no way that the buff would make the support too strong. It would just make him a really interesting situational mid, and would allow the hero to do what the backstory implies: stealing spells throughout the entirety of a fight, laying down more and more types of magic as it progresses. Right now, with the support Rubick, most of what happens is him stealing one really fucking good spell and abusing the everloving hell out of it, which is cool but not quite as cool.
you're misunderstanding. I'm not saying they should remove rubicks aghs, I'm saying they should revert the change where you're unable to use stolen aghs ultimates without having scepter.
the aghs 5s CD on spellsteal (or whatever ridic CD) is already powerful enough of an upgrade to warrant getting the item after blink/force.
it wasn't necessary to remove the 'stolen upgraded ultimates' aspect before acquiring the item.
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So reddit complained enough and got the sign added as a regular ability for Techies. Now even more mind games to piss everyone in the game off use against your enemies.
Probably for the best, but not really sure why this was an issue in the first place.
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because apparently it set a bad precedent aka
slippery slope fallacy because people fear hats
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On September 03 2014 06:20 LeLoup wrote:
So reddit complained enough and got the sign added as a regular ability for Techies. Now even more mind games to piss everyone in the game off use against your enemies.
Probably for the best, but not really sure why this was an issue in the first place.
People were upset about pay to lose and that other techies with more money could lose faster.
Yay: equality. #WeDidItReddit
On September 03 2014 06:23 Shaella wrote:
because apparently it set a bad precedent aka
slippery slope fallacy because people fear hats
The slippery slope fallacy is the worst argument in the world and everyone uses it.
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It's a legitimate concern, after all, you can't even tell anymore which hero is which.
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On September 03 2014 06:25 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 06:20 LeLoup wrote:
So reddit complained enough and got the sign added as a regular ability for Techies. Now even more mind games to piss everyone in the game off use against your enemies.
Probably for the best, but not really sure why this was an issue in the first place. People were upset about pay to lose and that other techies with more money could lose faster. Yay: equality. #WeDidItReddit Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 06:23 Shaella wrote:
because apparently it set a bad precedent aka
slippery slope fallacy because people fear hats The slippery slope fallacy is the worst argument in the world and everyone uses it.
compared to the intrusiveness of hats on gameplay we had a year ago the slippery slope argument seems sensible to me
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
I dunno guys. Honestly that screenshot with the bear and Lycan is pretty misleading. I dunno if I could trust myself to be able to tell those two apart. When I first saw Beastmaster's cosmetic hawk fly around at first I thought it was a flying courier, because I didn't know he had summons cosmetics. The cosmetic pig looks pretty weird too, I don't think you can blame anyone for mistaking it with Lycan's wolf when encountering it for the first time. This obviously will probably happen to you only once and is not a big deal, but it does influence the game, which probably shouldn't happen.
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