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SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
June 08 2012 13:49 GMT
#12361
we still ended up losing this game, but was good fun
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 08 2012 15:16 GMT
#12362
streaming chinese dota1 in SUPER low quality
DK vs NA game 1 (~35 minutes in)

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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 17:54:17
June 08 2012 17:53 GMT
#12363
Ok so I just finished playing a game vs an Axe and, as a Lone Druid player,I noticed that helix proc way way way more often than and entangle. I checked on playdota and the percentage of entangle to proc is 20% while the percentage of helix to proc is 17%. So, am i the only one who noticed it ? Was that just luck by the axe player ( sometimes it even procced 3 or 4 times in a row which is insane ).
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 08 2012 18:00 GMT
#12364
Entangle is one bear hitting. Helix can have multiple damage sources. So in this game were your experiences based off your bear hitting the axe alone. No other damage sources for helix?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 08 2012 18:01 GMT
#12365
On June 09 2012 02:53 BlitzerSC wrote:
Ok so I just finished playing a game vs an Axe and, as a Lone Druid player,I noticed that helix proc way way way more often than and entangle. I checked on playdota and the percentage of entangle to proc is 20% while the percentage of helix to proc is 17%. So, am i the only one who noticed it ? Was that just luck by the axe player ( sometimes it even procced 3 or 4 times in a row which is insane ).

You do realize axe procs on incoming attacks? if 6 units attack him he should proc everytime. Sylla's bear procs on his own attacks, every 5 he should get one and he attacks pretty slowly without items
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
June 08 2012 18:02 GMT
#12366
Catched today myself singing "opa, opa dendi, opa opa deeeendi, opa opa..."
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:07:47
June 08 2012 18:06 GMT
#12367
On June 09 2012 03:01 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 02:53 BlitzerSC wrote:
Ok so I just finished playing a game vs an Axe and, as a Lone Druid player,I noticed that helix proc way way way more often than and entangle. I checked on playdota and the percentage of entangle to proc is 20% while the percentage of helix to proc is 17%. So, am i the only one who noticed it ? Was that just luck by the axe player ( sometimes it even procced 3 or 4 times in a row which is insane ).

You do realize axe procs on incoming attacks? if 6 units attack him he should proc everytime. Sylla's bear procs on his own attacks, every 5 he should get one and he attacks pretty slowly without items


I did ? Still, in 1v1 situations the chance of helix to proc looks way higher than what it is (compared to silla's ofc). Have you ever played Druid? Sometimes i even play games where i don't get any proc at all on heroes but a lot of procs on creeps. For the first bunch games i thought that I was just unlucky but more games I play and more I get convinced that entangle has some kind of bug.
It just looks "wrong" and I'm sure that every Silla player has noticed it.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
June 08 2012 18:12 GMT
#12368
I don't think so. Multicast feels the same way, but it's just human perception of luck.

Also consider that the bear hitting + you hitting Axe is two damage sources, so he should proc more often, especially as you're using Rabid (I assume) and have relatively high AS.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 08 2012 18:30 GMT
#12369
The random is random simply. I just played a game of mortred on test client and had no crits for like 30 hits when farming and proceed to have one every second attack in a teamfight. Since I had a rapier it was pretty fun :D

all in all, the RNG might be a bit of, they can't copy the WC3 one for copyright reasons afaik
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 08 2012 18:44 GMT
#12370
On June 09 2012 03:30 Qbek wrote:
The random is random simply. I just played a game of mortred on test client and had no crits for like 30 hits when farming and proceed to have one every second attack in a teamfight. Since I had a rapier it was pretty fun :D

all in all, the RNG might be a bit of, they can't copy the WC3 one for copyright reasons afaik


Blizzard didn't invent the pseudo random distribution so they should have no ability to copyright it...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
June 08 2012 18:46 GMT
#12371
On June 09 2012 03:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:30 Qbek wrote:
The random is random simply. I just played a game of mortred on test client and had no crits for like 30 hits when farming and proceed to have one every second attack in a teamfight. Since I had a rapier it was pretty fun :D

all in all, the RNG might be a bit of, they can't copy the WC3 one for copyright reasons afaik


Blizzard didn't invent the pseudo random distribution so they should have no ability to copyright it...

Blizzard's RNG for war3 wasn't particularly good either. It was highly inaccurate for higher percentages.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 09 2012 03:08 GMT
#12372
20/10/20 as Pudge. Godlike at 15min. Still lost. Wtf. Just because my whole fucking team was roaming and not pushing or farming. Yo when there is fv/sf you have to 1 kill them a lot, 2 push towers

That brings me to : can I carry lategame as a Pudge ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 09 2012 03:16 GMT
#12373
yes you can carry with pudge, though obviously you need a fairly strong start
if you're trying to carry grab a hood and/or bkb and stack hp/armor until you're pretty much unkillable

i'm gonna guess that u sacrificed too much farm for kills
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 09 2012 03:50 GMT
#12374
Yeah my cs was shitty at best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 09 2012 03:52 GMT
#12375
pudge is the type of carry by not farming but by shutting down enemy farms. Depends on how well you play, the 'useful' period of pudge will be extended to late game. Once the game hit late late game, he is just a good tanky meat shield with a good Disable ulti.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
June 09 2012 04:33 GMT
#12376
Although, late late late late late late late late late late game he one shots everything and nothing deals damage to him :D
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 09 2012 04:48 GMT
#12377
It's sad. I'm sad. I'm no dendi TT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 09 2012 04:52 GMT
#12378
never been a big fan of pudge anyway. it has always been a big gamble both in team strategy and personal execution in picking pudge in general. Even if i have to gamble a roaming PoTM is still 'feel' better than playing a pudge xD
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
June 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#12379
Its ok, not everyone can be Dendi. But hey, just like you miss every hook you don't throw, you can't be Dendi without shooting for the biggest of big plays.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
June 09 2012 06:13 GMT
#12380
Question: now when we know DotA 2 will be completly free with all heroes always unlocked for play... how the heck HoN/LoL are planning to survive?

I understand it's all personal preference but I just can't see people playing any other MOBA then DotA 2. The name, company behind it, millions worth tournaments like Internationals, and everything we saw in Beta... just says DotA 2 is game to play.

(I play all 3 games currently)
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