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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada239 Posts
June 09 2012 06:21 GMT
#12381
On June 09 2012 15:13 whiterabbit wrote:
but I just can't see people playing any other MOBA then DotA 2.
(I play all 3 games currently)


you don't understand why people play games other than dota2. yet you play all the dota2 competitors. ok
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 09 2012 06:27 GMT
#12382
On June 09 2012 15:13 whiterabbit wrote:
Question: now when we know DotA 2 will be completly free with all heroes always unlocked for play... how the heck HoN/LoL are planning to survive?

I understand it's all personal preference but I just can't see people playing any other MOBA then DotA 2. The name, company behind it, millions worth tournaments like Internationals, and everything we saw in Beta... just says DotA 2 is game to play.

(I play all 3 games currently)

For HoN it's was already just a question of time, for LoL I have no idea. I think they cater different people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 06:31:36
June 09 2012 06:29 GMT
#12383
On June 09 2012 15:21 ~_~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 15:13 whiterabbit wrote:
but I just can't see people playing any other MOBA then DotA 2.
(I play all 3 games currently)


you don't understand why people play games other than dota2. yet you play all the dota2 competitors. ok


Sorry, I wrongly put that one... I played all 3 (DotA 2 since first Internationals, HoN since early Beta and LoL since recently (few months only)) BUT now when they released info how DotA 2 will be completly free, with all champions unlocked and even shop items dropping after games/Battle Level-ups I just can't see myself sticking to LoL/HoN anymore. I mean... for fucks sake they even give you shop items after Battle Level-up and there's chance of item dropping after every game, and those items are almost their only direct income from DotA 2. Freakin' respect! <3

But as I said, it's just thinking out loud more then asking question... I already answered to myself: "it's personal preference and choice" but somehow... DotA 2 will offer so MUCH more and Valve is behind it, I guess I just wish all MOBA players gather under ONE game. Etc...

Don't mind me, I am just very tired after all night of MLG lol. :D
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 09 2012 08:40 GMT
#12384
and those items are almost their only direct income from DotA 2


I am not even sure about this, i would rather say that their main income is steam sells and having many users play dota2, will also mean more people that potentially buy other games on steam.
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 09:48:10
June 09 2012 09:11 GMT
#12385
apparently nothing new
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 09 2012 09:17 GMT
#12386
Choke point jungling
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 09:25:56
June 09 2012 09:25 GMT
#12387
On June 09 2012 18:17 Yoshi- wrote:
Choke point jungling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3FUcBdik0I


That was what gave the idea. But if you look at the pictures it works differently in dota2, making it even more overpowered
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 09 2012 09:44 GMT
#12388
no... the concept are pretty much the same and there are a few spots that you could do in dota1 and cant do in dota2. Dont over use the word 'overpower' if you dont really know what it means.

About the LoL thing: LoL has secured itself with a very different market compare to dota/dota2. If dota2 is more about EU and China as well as SEA, LoL has pretty much the entire NA player based and expanding to mainstream media in Korea. As long as riot doesnt fuck up something that make their players abandon the game, the market is secured just like facebook securing their users over google+. HoN is dead and should not be counted in the equation.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 09 2012 10:06 GMT
#12389
On June 09 2012 17:40 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
and those items are almost their only direct income from DotA 2


I am not even sure about this, i would rather say that their main income is steam sells and having many users play dota2, will also mean more people that potentially buy other games on steam.

Their main income from DOTA2 will be from the keys on the store, just like TF2.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
June 09 2012 10:14 GMT
#12390
IMO dota 2 is a way better spectator sport and way more fun to play, but the whole game is about macro. The guys with the highest skill cap are guys like chen who could constantly be pulling something or somehow better maximizing their farm. And everyone has to be looking at all lanes at all times in case they have to tp in.

In LoL there's just more little things that every move does in general, so the micro in lanes gets pretty damn complicated...but it is absolutely impossible to diverge from the macro of 1-1-2 boring farming lanes. Some pro players completely forget that the other two lanes exist until 20 minutes into the game, and by that time both teams usually agree that the game is already over based on pics and farm. Honestly I've watched 30 or 40 pro games of LoL and can count on one hand the number of times that a team has recovered from being more than 2 kills behind.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 13:26:43
June 09 2012 10:20 GMT
#12391
On June 09 2012 15:13 whiterabbit wrote:
Question: now when we know DotA 2 will be completly free with all heroes always unlocked for play... how the heck HoN/LoL are planning to survive?

I understand it's all personal preference but I just can't see people playing any other MOBA then DotA 2. The name, company behind it, millions worth tournaments like Internationals, and everything we saw in Beta... just says DotA 2 is game to play.

(I play all 3 games currently)

LoL caters to casuals more than DotA does.
Like DotA is quake and LoL is CoD.


Also, please stop using the term MOBA.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 10:28:15
June 09 2012 10:21 GMT
#12392
On June 09 2012 17:40 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
and those items are almost their only direct income from DotA 2


I am not even sure about this, i would rather say that their main income is steam sells and having many users play dota2, will also mean more people that potentially buy other games on steam.

You should realize how disgustingly much they earned on selling items in the store in TF2.
DotA2 will be a gold-mine.

Valve themselves said that they earned 12 times more by having the store there than any of their monthly sales.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
June 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#12393
Looking to test some warding spots. Is anyone familiar with the commands to spawn/remove creeps?
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 09 2012 10:43 GMT
#12394
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=22468

-killwards is the one that should interest you most for creeps its -killcreeps and -spawncreeps
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 10:45:34
June 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#12395
On June 09 2012 19:40 Hoban wrote:
Looking to test some warding spots. Is anyone familiar with the commands to spawn/remove creeps?

The commands are -spawnneutrals and -killcreeps if I remember correctly.
Edit: Always too slow.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
June 09 2012 10:57 GMT
#12396
Thank you! Exactly what I am looking for. Good call on the -killwards
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 09 2012 11:22 GMT
#12397
You can also give yourself wards by typing "-item item_wards", copy that to clipboard for maximum wardage :D

I also used to stress test my PC by spamming -spawncreeps like 100 times, waiting some time(they block like crazy) and doing an echo slam on them xD Whole screen goes white
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
June 09 2012 13:55 GMT
#12398
On June 09 2012 18:17 Yoshi- wrote:
Choke point jungling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3FUcBdik0I


This is SO HELPFUL. Thank you for posting this guide!
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
June 09 2012 17:07 GMT
#12399
Does anyone knows how to change de speed of the camera scrolling while putting the cursor near the edge of the screen ? I tried to find it in the options but I fail
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 09 2012 20:40 GMT
#12400
No M5 at dreamhack, no visa for them.
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