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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
June 09 2012 22:01 GMT
#12401
On June 09 2012 22:55 Rybka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 18:17 Yoshi- wrote:
Choke point jungling


This is SO HELPFUL. Thank you for posting this guide!

Just an fyi, basically all of the scourge/dire spots no longer work, while most of the radiant ones do.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 22:13:47
June 09 2012 22:11 GMT
#12402
On June 10 2012 07:01 hideo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 22:55 Rybka wrote:
On June 09 2012 18:17 Yoshi- wrote:
Choke point jungling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3FUcBdik0I


This is SO HELPFUL. Thank you for posting this guide!

Just an fyi, basically all of the scourge/dire spots no longer work, while most of the radiant ones do.

nah, they still works with the additional of more spots being added in.
Source: jungle naix 63 games with 67% w/r

edit: oh the one at the rune ward camp doesnt work but the rest works WAY better.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
June 10 2012 04:51 GMT
#12403
Just to let y'all know, Korok is streaming right now. Haven't seen him stream much before, so could be worth checking out.
fresh chops
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#12404
On June 10 2012 13:51 Dankleteer wrote:
Just to let y'all know, Korok is streaming right now. Haven't seen him stream much before, so could be worth checking out.

He streamed all the time when he played hon. One of the other players it was worth watching who streamed frequently. Others either just pubstomped 24/7 or played for money with bad players.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 10 2012 06:46 GMT
#12405
Blitz stream is super informative. Some next level tide/bloodseeker/vs lane 5 minute gg shit going on.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
June 10 2012 06:59 GMT
#12406
Been playing nothing but hard support in pubs. Really starting to get a feel for how to make plays happen and how to generally secure an early advantage for your team. It is really really fun. At first, I thought going support in a pub was the worst idea ever, as it just consisted of me buying wards and trying to keep my team from dying in horrendous situations. Now, I feel that when playing a support, you have to be both the most aggressive player on the map, and the most cautious of your limits. You need to set your team up for success, which isn't just buying courier/wards. Figuring out how to make kills happen with a 600hp crystal maiden is fucking awesome.

So, that aside, what support players does TL consider to be the absolute best of the best? Personally, I don't watch much chinese dota but from what I hear, they have it down to an art form. My personal favorites are NS and CWM for hard support, Puppey, Ivz, and Kebap for secondary support.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 07:13:30
June 10 2012 07:11 GMT
#12407
Honestly these people make Dota 2 the game that it is.

Pay attention to the guy in the chat with the name jeremy in the pictures in the spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]


[image loading]

Honestly these people make Dota 2 the game that it is.

We need a name specific to Dota to call people like this guy Jeremy. I was thinking along the lines of Dota-Hole or something dumb, not sure yet.
if you can believe you can concieve
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 10 2012 07:50 GMT
#12408
On June 10 2012 15:59 Hoban wrote:
Been playing nothing but hard support in pubs. Really starting to get a feel for how to make plays happen and how to generally secure an early advantage for your team. It is really really fun. At first, I thought going support in a pub was the worst idea ever, as it just consisted of me buying wards and trying to keep my team from dying in horrendous situations. Now, I feel that when playing a support, you have to be both the most aggressive player on the map, and the most cautious of your limits. You need to set your team up for success, which isn't just buying courier/wards. Figuring out how to make kills happen with a 600hp crystal maiden is fucking awesome.

So, that aside, what support players does TL consider to be the absolute best of the best? Personally, I don't watch much chinese dota but from what I hear, they have it down to an art form. My personal favorites are NS and CWM for hard support, Puppey, Ivz, and Kebap for secondary support.

Support is a fun role, the only problem occurs when that jugernaut you have been securing free farm too goes out of his way to buy a shadow blade first or something along those lines.
WriterXiao8~~
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 18:30:51
June 10 2012 08:48 GMT
#12409
MOD EDIT: D3 spoiler

16 Friendly commends though, you can tell he's one hell of a guy!
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
June 10 2012 08:55 GMT
#12410
On June 10 2012 16:11 TheWarbler wrote:
Honestly these people make Dota 2 the game that it is.

Pay attention to the guy in the chat with the name jeremy in the pictures in the spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]


[image loading]

Honestly these people make Dota 2 the game that it is.

We need a name specific to Dota to call people like this guy Jeremy. I was thinking along the lines of Dota-Hole or something dumb, not sure yet.


I'll rather have people like Jeremy then usual guys I get in every DotA 2 match I play who spam caps locked cyrillic insults entire game... without any reason with occasional badly written English curse (something about my mother most of the times) that goes on copypaste for few minutes.

Anyway, very often I feel the worst of mankind plays DotA...
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 10 2012 09:44 GMT
#12411
iceiceice streaming, cool

http://www.twitch.tv/iceiceice
ffxiv enjoyer
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#12412
On June 10 2012 16:11 TheWarbler wrote:
Honestly these people make Dota 2 the game that it is.

Pay attention to the guy in the chat with the name jeremy in the pictures in the spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]


[image loading]

Honestly these people make Dota 2 the game that it is.

We need a name specific to Dota to call people like this guy Jeremy. I was thinking along the lines of Dota-Hole or something dumb, not sure yet.


You can just call him jeremy "gets dem bitches" lin since that is already degrading enough.
High Risk Low Reward
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
June 10 2012 19:19 GMT
#12413
On June 10 2012 16:50 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 15:59 Hoban wrote:
Been playing nothing but hard support in pubs. Really starting to get a feel for how to make plays happen and how to generally secure an early advantage for your team. It is really really fun. At first, I thought going support in a pub was the worst idea ever, as it just consisted of me buying wards and trying to keep my team from dying in horrendous situations. Now, I feel that when playing a support, you have to be both the most aggressive player on the map, and the most cautious of your limits. You need to set your team up for success, which isn't just buying courier/wards. Figuring out how to make kills happen with a 600hp crystal maiden is fucking awesome.

So, that aside, what support players does TL consider to be the absolute best of the best? Personally, I don't watch much chinese dota but from what I hear, they have it down to an art form. My personal favorites are NS and CWM for hard support, Puppey, Ivz, and Kebap for secondary support.

Support is a fun role, the only problem occurs when that jugernaut you have been securing free farm too goes out of his way to buy a shadow blade first or something along those lines.


Yea, I usually only play support these days and I've realized that if your team does not farm or take advantage of the early game advantage, its really easy to have everything go downhill from there.

Worse is that you sacrifice your farm only to find out that your team buys joke items instead of getting the proper items like say a BKB or something.

Satisfying? Yes but it can be equally frustrating.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
June 10 2012 20:14 GMT
#12414
On June 10 2012 16:50 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 15:59 Hoban wrote:
Been playing nothing but hard support in pubs. Really starting to get a feel for how to make plays happen and how to generally secure an early advantage for your team. It is really really fun. At first, I thought going support in a pub was the worst idea ever, as it just consisted of me buying wards and trying to keep my team from dying in horrendous situations. Now, I feel that when playing a support, you have to be both the most aggressive player on the map, and the most cautious of your limits. You need to set your team up for success, which isn't just buying courier/wards. Figuring out how to make kills happen with a 600hp crystal maiden is fucking awesome.

So, that aside, what support players does TL consider to be the absolute best of the best? Personally, I don't watch much chinese dota but from what I hear, they have it down to an art form. My personal favorites are NS and CWM for hard support, Puppey, Ivz, and Kebap for secondary support.

Support is a fun role, the only problem occurs when that jugernaut you have been securing free farm too goes out of his way to buy a shadow blade first or something along those lines.


Hey.

Don't hate on SB jugg.

That shit is hilarious.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 10 2012 20:16 GMT
#12415
I don't like playing support because most of the time, my teammate who first picked riki/spectre/void/am/morph/dk/weaver has 50cs at 20min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 10 2012 20:37 GMT
#12416
yea lothars jugg ownz
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
June 10 2012 20:57 GMT
#12417
Yea generally if I win the early game for my team, I don't care as much if my team loses when playing support. Wins/Losses in pub games are really a non-factor. It's all about personal performance.

Unrelated note, does anyone know how to watch replays that you have either downloaded or using the url thing? I haven't been able to get the url to work.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 21:17:26
June 10 2012 21:17 GMT
#12418
OH YEAHHHHHHH mTw WONNN!!!!!!!!!

HELL YEAH! See? my prediction is so precise:


Western:
Tier1: Mouz mTw
Tier2: Next.Kz VP Quantic
Tier3: the rest


mTw > Next.Kz > Mouz > VP > mTw.... HELL YEAH!
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 10 2012 21:46 GMT
#12419
On June 10 2012 15:59 Hoban wrote:
Been playing nothing but hard support in pubs. Really starting to get a feel for how to make plays happen and how to generally secure an early advantage for your team. It is really really fun. At first, I thought going support in a pub was the worst idea ever, as it just consisted of me buying wards and trying to keep my team from dying in horrendous situations. Now, I feel that when playing a support, you have to be both the most aggressive player on the map, and the most cautious of your limits. You need to set your team up for success, which isn't just buying courier/wards. Figuring out how to make kills happen with a 600hp crystal maiden is fucking awesome.

So, that aside, what support players does TL consider to be the absolute best of the best? Personally, I don't watch much chinese dota but from what I hear, they have it down to an art form. My personal favorites are NS and CWM for hard support, Puppey, Ivz, and Kebap for secondary support.

My favorite support is Lich You have a good nuke, don't need item to boost your mana pool and you're useful in teamfights (especially in pub where players are usually clumped). Fun to play too.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9052 Posts
June 10 2012 21:56 GMT
#12420
Everyone check out the new PA model in the test client!!!. She's all dark now.
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