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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 17 2012 13:41 GMT
#11321
no wards is better than the good old weaver scouts army.... invisible moving wards LOLOLOLOLOL. Best part is in dota1 there is a command called Patrol ;]
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
May 17 2012 14:06 GMT
#11322
On May 17 2012 22:41 NB wrote:
no wards is better than the good old weaver scouts army.... invisible moving wards LOLOLOLOLOL. Best part is in dota1 there is a command called Patrol ;]


LOL i forgot about those. Man, those old school skills were awesome and broken at the same time. lol
I know where my towel is.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 17 2012 14:22 GMT
#11323
man, i cannot wait for luna to came out. she has the best quotes in dota1 and i hope they carrying them over
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 17 2012 14:32 GMT
#11324
On May 17 2012 19:38 Altsa wrote:
Treant is one big mess of a hero. No other hero has been reworked as often as he has been since 6.60. His skillset has always been wierd and hard to balance. Only way for Icefrog to finaly get him into -cm was to nerf his ulti to the ground.

Also, this was hilarious(and sad)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

xin was nerfed (3 -> 2) since then, and its a really damn hard spell to get off optimally. treant is just cast and forget, xin you have ot position to even hit if they're next to any creeps. it's really not that good.

not sure why people are hating on treant
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 17 2012 14:51 GMT
#11325
On May 17 2012 23:32 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 19:38 Altsa wrote:
Treant is one big mess of a hero. No other hero has been reworked as often as he has been since 6.60. His skillset has always been wierd and hard to balance. Only way for Icefrog to finaly get him into -cm was to nerf his ulti to the ground.

Also, this was hilarious(and sad)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

xin was nerfed (3 -> 2) since then, and its a really damn hard spell to get off optimally. treant is just cast and forget, xin you have ot position to even hit if they're next to any creeps. it's really not that good.

not sure why people are hating on treant


pretty hard to get a good position with xin huh?
anyway, I really want to see treant more in competitive game, hoping for a buff
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 15:13:39
May 17 2012 15:11 GMT
#11326
On May 17 2012 23:51 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 23:32 rabidch wrote:
On May 17 2012 19:38 Altsa wrote:
Treant is one big mess of a hero. No other hero has been reworked as often as he has been since 6.60. His skillset has always been wierd and hard to balance. Only way for Icefrog to finaly get him into -cm was to nerf his ulti to the ground.

Also, this was hilarious(and sad)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

xin was nerfed (3 -> 2) since then, and its a really damn hard spell to get off optimally. treant is just cast and forget, xin you have ot position to even hit if they're next to any creeps. it's really not that good.

not sure why people are hating on treant


pretty hard to get a good position with xin huh?
anyway, I really want to see treant more in competitive game, hoping for a buff

against some common heroes (furion, chen/ench, brood, enigma) used in competitive, it is very unreliable, and it doesnt silence them either.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
sekishusai
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 15:21:52
May 17 2012 15:21 GMT
#11327
I'm looking for some kind of mentor to help me improve at Dota. I have played with multiple heroes, have some understanding of the game and I think I'm average at PUB level. I can play on weekends only (studying on week days), so if anyone is interested in helping someone improve at the game while maybe making a new friend, please send me a PM.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 16:49:28
May 17 2012 16:48 GMT
#11328
On May 17 2012 20:22 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 13:56 Kupon3ss wrote:
Lucan jungle is marginally easier in dota2 in that u don't have to play about 3 games with it to know oh hey I have to micro this way and not pots here, tho the slightly different ai and lack of stuff getting shockwaved is a bit ... I personally think the lothars crit change and slight modifications to rng make much bigger differences

I disagree.

The main difference is on the hard camps. Satyrs and Wildkins are doable from level 1 because of the AI differences, meaning that it's significantly harder to disrupt Lycan's jungle pattern when he can rely on doable hard camp spawns even if his easy camp is blocked. It's not just an issue of how you clarity--there are camps that you generally wouldn't attempt at level 1/2 that are as easy as Trolls now.


Satyrs and Wildkins where doable to begin with, you just have to micro a tiny bit, obviously marginally easier in DotA2 due to ai and that +1 armor that's gone now, the only thing that u couldn't take at lv1/2 was the furblogs, everything else was doable, it makes a difference at a pub level because anybody can do it in DotA2 due to dumber ai, but its essentially the same for people who actually know how to lycan jungle.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 17:20:02
May 17 2012 17:19 GMT
#11329
http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/05/dota-2-16th-may/

so good *.*

new Shadow Fiend Voice: (to windrunner) I guess gingers do have souls. Mm, delicious.

ROFL HAHAHAHA
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 17 2012 17:20 GMT
#11330
Treant has a bird on his "head" that spins weirdly atm when you move xD
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 17 2012 17:40 GMT
#11331
singsing interview: http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3093-singsing-ti2-pressure-getting-to-us
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 17 2012 17:55 GMT
#11332
sing is the baws
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#11333
I actually really like his responses.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 19:43:19
May 17 2012 19:39 GMT
#11334
--- Nuked ---
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 17 2012 20:42 GMT
#11335
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3107-mouz-replaces-fire-with-1437
Mouz stable? Yeah, right.
super gg
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 17 2012 20:51 GMT
#11336
Shit, It's Gosu can't catch a break
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
May 17 2012 20:53 GMT
#11337
On May 18 2012 05:42 cecek wrote:
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/3107-mouz-replaces-fire-with-1437
Mouz stable? Yeah, right.


Seems odd for a team like Mouz to let their players change constantly. It guess they aren't contracted?
Never make a hydralisk.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 17 2012 21:08 GMT
#11338
Ouch, isnt it too late now?If they still want to secure an invite?They just changed their roster again?O.o.
WriterXiao8~~
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 17 2012 21:10 GMT
#11339
I hope Valve aren't entirely serious about stability being the most important factor.... It wouldn't be such a good tournament if they ignored the majority of western teams.
super gg
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 22:28:38
May 17 2012 21:54 GMT
#11340
Why do people take the stability thing this way? Stability is the most important factor for the players invited, because they have to play together as the five invitees when the tournament comes. From Valve's point of view, they haven't invited the Na`Vi brand's team, but rather LoH, PPY, XBOCT, Dendi, and AA as individual members of one team... If they decided to swap out XBOCT for another carry now, they'd still have to play with him at the international. Stabilizing your team is important, so you can play good when it's crunch time.
I really doubt the main gauge of validity from Valve's point of view will be who has the least swaps in the last 4 months, over performance (and possibly recognizability). Of course, if teams change rosters just before their invites, they'll be reconsidered, but I think the timeframe for this will be within reason. Don't know if Valve is in any kind of hurry with the invites. If mouz starts playing worse with 1437, they naturally have less of a chance, but imo replacing Fire can't hurt 'em. EU slots are really hard to predict atm anyway.
So zen.
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