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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On May 17 2012 14:54 DoNotDisturb wrote: wasn't the DotA 1 model fixed, along with BH's, in a 6.6x update or something? BH was fixed but Treant is still not that easy given his size. Hardest is Slark. | ||
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The Great Taste
389 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On May 17 2012 13:47 flamewheel wrote: In DotA 1, Gnolls make sure every enemy has the poison buff instead of focusing one unit. Certain hard camp creep target melee heroes (Wildkins and Centaurs). You can't clarity under these and on hard camps your wolves won't be tanking damage since the big creep will be hitting you. In dota1, the big centaur doesn't focus melee heroes if you attack it like the Wildkin, although sometimes the small one chases me more than it should. Sometimes the small wolves chase a little too. Treant ult has a much lower cooldown than tide's ult, so it feels like a different usage. Of course you can manta/bkb out of it. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Also what rng changes? I thought it was the prng, albeit not an exact copy as that would be a bit more than blizzard would let Valve would let them get away with | ||
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Yurie
12175 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On May 17 2012 16:28 Yurie wrote: Is it just me or does the easy troll camp's healer dps and heal at the same time while it didn't in DotA? yep | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On May 17 2012 16:16 igotmyown wrote: In dota1, the big centaur doesn't focus melee heroes if you attack it like the Wildkin, although sometimes the small one chases me more than it should. Sometimes the small wolves chase a little too. Treant ult has a much lower cooldown than tide's ult, so it feels like a different usage. Of course you can manta/bkb out of it. + diffusal the root iirc also, does the troll healer's heal feel faster compared to DotA's, or is it because of the attack+heal at the same time thing? On May 17 2012 15:52 The Great Taste wrote: HAHA, nothing was more frustrating yet simple than trying to click on old Bounty Hunter. relevant and shamelessly stolen from PD + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4335/unrage.jpg) | ||
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The Great Taste
389 Posts
A problem that can occur with Tide is when an enemy carry such as Lycan just BKBs and charges straight for him, he can't really pop the ravage because it won't do anything but he might die before he can (especially if it's a 10 second BKB). You can just root them with Treant. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
you know, until she popped 1k crits in the red against you. | ||
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Altsa
Finland990 Posts
Also, this was hilarious(and sad) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i39.tinypic.com/5kht0m.png) | ||
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
On May 17 2012 19:38 Altsa wrote: Treant is one big mess of a hero. No other hero has been reworked as often as he has been since 6.60. His skillset has always been wierd and hard to balance. Only way for Icefrog to finaly get him into -cm was to nerf his ulti to the ground. Also, this was hilarious(and sad) + Show Spoiler + lol that picture. Treant, ugh. Just ugh.. From Eyes of the Forest, to that Sentinel (Owl) skill, now Leech seed. And ulti getting nerfed to oblivion. Overall bad choice to implement him early in Dota 2. He just needs to be reworked... again. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 17 2012 13:56 Kupon3ss wrote: Lucan jungle is marginally easier in dota2 in that u don't have to play about 3 games with it to know oh hey I have to micro this way and not pots here, tho the slightly different ai and lack of stuff getting shockwaved is a bit ... I personally think the lothars crit change and slight modifications to rng make much bigger differences I disagree. The main difference is on the hard camps. Satyrs and Wildkins are doable from level 1 because of the AI differences, meaning that it's significantly harder to disrupt Lycan's jungle pattern when he can rely on doable hard camp spawns even if his easy camp is blocked. It's not just an issue of how you clarity--there are camps that you generally wouldn't attempt at level 1/2 that are as easy as Trolls now. | ||
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On May 17 2012 20:38 TheWarbler wrote: I never had trouble trying to click bounty hunter :/ Put it this way. Before icefrog made the model change, someone developed a mod that would change the model file for the entire warcraft3 game just so people could click him. Quickly became one of the most downloaded mods for WC3. | ||
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Mota_V
Australia40 Posts
Sooo many changes on Treant through the years lol. Free tree wards. you could potentially ward the whole map given enough time. Loved the Owls one best. You could set up like 5 owls in one area, activating them all so each does 200dmg. Lure enemy in and BAM! Nuked down. Was hilarious. Plus the vision was handy. Miss the old tree armor active. 5 second Ult now only 3  Treant now seems kinda okay on paper, yet still suckish. Low CD long Invis for intiating set up, scouting and ganks. Whole team invis + 10% ms :D Leech Seed, decent for pushing since it heals all creeps and allies. And harrassing, esp with soul ring. Living Armor, global heal on allies and TOWERSSS! Given enough time, heal towers to full HP. Ulty low CD and goes through BKB. Hope he gets picked in competive play for lulz. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Mota_V
Australia40 Posts
Buff the tree ant 2012! | ||
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ilovelings
Argentina776 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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