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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 04:25:11
March 28 2012 04:24 GMT
#5841
is 4 crushing claw naix ever viable?
FADC
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
March 28 2012 04:32 GMT
#5842
On March 28 2012 10:40 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 07:22 scorch- wrote:
On March 28 2012 06:31 LAN-f34r wrote:Does it really recommend headress first? Well... I guess its better than venge's recommended...


The old headdress first build. Reminds me of the awesome 2x RoR pudge buys back when we were all terrible, only worse.



haha oh wow

Used to get 2x RoR for Pudge as starting items too.


speaking of which, when did they make it so that 2x RoR couldn't make vanguard?
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
March 28 2012 04:44 GMT
#5843
On March 28 2012 06:31 LAN-f34r wrote:
Tranquil boots on bear
Tots legit

Does it really recommend headress first? Well... I guess its better than venge's recommended...

Well if it heals the bear in dota2 might not be too bad but as a starting item eh.
I found it amusing due to headress stopped healing the bear in dota 1 after the fix for weavers bugs + headdress healing em.
Headdress not healing ancients which the bugs are(or were made to be) and which the bear is.
Now they are recommending it?

rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
March 28 2012 05:12 GMT
#5844
On March 28 2012 09:19 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 08:24 dragonborn wrote:
On March 28 2012 08:10 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Lol Flamewheel and co. just got lvl 1 roshd on

QoP is so stronK

flamewheel&Kipsate

edit: comeback! who is M5.RTZ?

We thought it was Artstyle, but Bulba says it's not.

We wouldn't have won if they played seriously (that's for sure). They just threw the game but a win's a win.


You thought it was artstyle loooooool.

It's arteezy, an average nadler.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 28 2012 05:37 GMT
#5845
On March 28 2012 09:51 Benjef wrote:
bah Silly bear is in the game D: noooooooooooooooooo

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 06:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
lol that game is hilarious, 2009's been basically preaching his entire progaming/coaching/commentating career for casual rapiers, and then .... it happens

finally found a worthy successor to ZSMJ


Which game is that :o?

And where can I find recent chinese dota game vods? Dont care wether they got english commentary or not.


the casual rapier game is the one rabid loaded earlier


generally chinese vods are loaded onto youku (chinese youtube clone), the most important ones usually end up on youtube one method or another at some point under various accounts (kind of a pain to sift through)

basically most of the popular commentary/fpvod/compilations/competition vods can be aggregated here

http://dota.sgamer.com/tag/video-list.html
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 28 2012 05:38 GMT
#5846
On March 28 2012 09:51 Benjef wrote:
bah Silly bear is in the game D: noooooooooooooooooo

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 06:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
lol that game is hilarious, 2009's been basically preaching his entire progaming/coaching/commentating career for casual rapiers, and then .... it happens

finally found a worthy successor to ZSMJ


Which game is that :o?

And where can I find recent chinese dota game vods? Dont care wether they got english commentary or not.

check the previous page, look who the post is addressed to.


http://www.youtube.com/user/lovecoqu
has a lot of chinese vods, various stuff (have to sort your way through them), a lot of vods arent there though but generally most games are there. game vods are usually uploaded 2-4 days after playing.



G-1 finals is this weekend
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 28 2012 06:10 GMT
#5847
On March 28 2012 14:38 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 09:51 Benjef wrote:
bah Silly bear is in the game D: noooooooooooooooooo

On March 28 2012 06:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
lol that game is hilarious, 2009's been basically preaching his entire progaming/coaching/commentating career for casual rapiers, and then .... it happens

finally found a worthy successor to ZSMJ


Which game is that :o?

And where can I find recent chinese dota game vods? Dont care wether they got english commentary or not.

check the previous page, look who the post is addressed to.


http://www.youtube.com/user/lovecoqu
has a lot of chinese vods, various stuff (have to sort your way through them), a lot of vods arent there though but generally most games are there. game vods are usually uploaded 2-4 days after playing.



G-1 finals is this weekend


again, if u watched the DK vs WE from 2 days ago, your expectations would be significantly different
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 28 2012 07:04 GMT
#5848
On March 28 2012 15:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 14:38 rabidch wrote:
On March 28 2012 09:51 Benjef wrote:
bah Silly bear is in the game D: noooooooooooooooooo

On March 28 2012 06:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
lol that game is hilarious, 2009's been basically preaching his entire progaming/coaching/commentating career for casual rapiers, and then .... it happens

finally found a worthy successor to ZSMJ


Which game is that :o?

And where can I find recent chinese dota game vods? Dont care wether they got english commentary or not.

check the previous page, look who the post is addressed to.


http://www.youtube.com/user/lovecoqu
has a lot of chinese vods, various stuff (have to sort your way through them), a lot of vods arent there though but generally most games are there. game vods are usually uploaded 2-4 days after playing.



G-1 finals is this weekend


again, if u watched the DK vs WE from 2 days ago, your expectations would be significantly different

i didnt realize the finals was weeks away. anyway WE played that pretty badly, mistakes hinged on a couple awful teamfights.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 28 2012 07:06 GMT
#5849
Some of the Silly Bear responses are awesome <3
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Lone_Druid_responses
A cuirass to cover my bear ass, ha ha!
Paw of Midas!
Mask of Madness! He he he ha ha ha ha!
Eternity will be better off without the Invoker.

Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 28 2012 07:17 GMT
#5850
On March 28 2012 05:29 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 05:28 TheYango wrote:
Does it seriously recommend Treads on the bear?

Why would you get Treads on the bear when it doesn't benefit from +stats. Phases are way better. -_-

My guess would be because of the attack speed bonus it gives. Higher attack speed -> more entangle.

Bear doesn't really need attack speed, also you will get assault. Phase are way better or you will just get blocked by creeps
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 28 2012 07:21 GMT
#5851
So I've never jungled with Sylla before and tried it and it's like, incredibly slow? Are you really supposed to jungle with him? Am I missing something?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 07:30:35
March 28 2012 07:25 GMT
#5852
On March 28 2012 16:21 Shikyo wrote:
So I've never jungled with Sylla before and tried it and it's like, incredibly slow? Are you really supposed to jungle with him? Am I missing something?

How did you skill him and what did you buy initially?
I personally prefer solo-laning with sylla though.

You can easily do the hard-lane by pulling creeps with your bear.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 07:34:12
March 28 2012 07:32 GMT
#5853
On March 28 2012 16:25 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 16:21 Shikyo wrote:
So I've never jungled with Sylla before and tried it and it's like, incredibly slow? Are you really supposed to jungle with him? Am I missing something?

How did you skill him and what did you buy initially?
I personally prefer solo-laning with sylla though.

You can easily do the hard-lane by pulling creeps with your bear.

shield and QUELLING BLADE and healing salve ;S Q > E
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
March 28 2012 07:51 GMT
#5854
On March 28 2012 16:32 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 16:25 Unleashing wrote:
On March 28 2012 16:21 Shikyo wrote:
So I've never jungled with Sylla before and tried it and it's like, incredibly slow? Are you really supposed to jungle with him? Am I missing something?

How did you skill him and what did you buy initially?
I personally prefer solo-laning with sylla though.

You can easily do the hard-lane by pulling creeps with your bear.

shield and QUELLING BLADE and healing salve ;S Q > E


He farms much too slowly in the jungle. All pro games will put him in lane, usually solo mid or on the safe lane. Only jungle if you don't have many supports I suppose (and hence splitting the farm among your team as most are item-dependent).

As Unleashing said, he can play the hard lane as well by pulling the creeps but I think it's more beneficial for Syllabear to get the farm up in a safer lane (unless you predict they will only put 1 person on your hard lane), because you want the core items and levels faster to be able to push down towers.

Because Syllabear is generally laned, quelling blade is not that necessary, usually you would see stats on the hero for last hits. A stout shield is OK for the spirit bear but not necessary, you may want more rgen or a magic stick or more last hitting power on your hero.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 09:02:41
March 28 2012 09:01 GMT
#5855
Stout on bear + Tangoes + Salve + 3xBranches
Phase Boots
Radiance
Assault Cuirass/Vlad's depending on which you need more (ideally your teammates get one and you can get the other)
Situational DPS/survivability (e.g. MKB, Buriza, etc.)

Insert small survivability items (Planeswalker's Cloak, Chainmail, Vitality Booster) whenever they seem fitting.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 28 2012 09:05 GMT
#5856
On March 28 2012 18:01 TheYango wrote:
Stout on bear + Tangoes + Salve + 3xBranches
Phase Boots
Radiance
Assault Cuirass/Vlad's depending on which you need more (ideally your teammates get one and you can get the other)
Situational DPS/survivability (e.g. MKB, Buriza, etc.)

Insert small survivability items (Planeswalker's Cloak, Chainmail, Vitality Booster) whenever they seem fitting.

tbh i hv never had any success with sylla either... i quit before he dominate the scene (when people just discover panda push power). I remember building sylla like a meepo and then complain on how its not as good as meepo -_-...

Im wondering if spec could get rad at 20-25 mins, what is the range on sylla? assuming without kills ofc.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 09:10:53
March 28 2012 09:09 GMT
#5857
On March 28 2012 18:05 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 18:01 TheYango wrote:
Stout on bear + Tangoes + Salve + 3xBranches
Phase Boots
Radiance
Assault Cuirass/Vlad's depending on which you need more (ideally your teammates get one and you can get the other)
Situational DPS/survivability (e.g. MKB, Buriza, etc.)

Insert small survivability items (Planeswalker's Cloak, Chainmail, Vitality Booster) whenever they seem fitting.

tbh i hv never had any success with sylla either... i quit before he dominate the scene (when people just discover panda push power). I remember building sylla like a meepo and then complain on how its not as good as meepo -_-...

Im wondering if spec could get rad at 20-25 mins, what is the range on sylla? assuming without kills ofc.


Generally syllas get it somewhere around 15-20 mins, without the biggest hassle.
That's what i remember though, can be that i am very wrong or it changed since i played sylla in DotA1.


Also having damage and a-speed on the bear is EXTREMELY useful, the bear scales crazy good with attack speed and damage and can kill towers so insanely fast.
1.45 BAT on the bear, so goood.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 09:10:29
March 28 2012 09:10 GMT
#5858
On March 28 2012 18:05 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 18:01 TheYango wrote:
Stout on bear + Tangoes + Salve + 3xBranches
Phase Boots
Radiance
Assault Cuirass/Vlad's depending on which you need more (ideally your teammates get one and you can get the other)
Situational DPS/survivability (e.g. MKB, Buriza, etc.)

Insert small survivability items (Planeswalker's Cloak, Chainmail, Vitality Booster) whenever they seem fitting.

tbh i hv never had any success with sylla either... i quit before he dominate the scene (when people just discover panda push power). I remember building sylla like a meepo and then complain on how its not as good as meepo -_-...

Im wondering if spec could get rad at 20-25 mins, what is the range on sylla? assuming without kills ofc.

should be a few minutes faster, because he doesnt usually get a vanguard.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 28 2012 09:10 GMT
#5859
[image loading]

Ogre magi placeholders xD
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 09:13:05
March 28 2012 09:12 GMT
#5860
On March 28 2012 18:01 TheYango wrote:
Stout on bear + Tangoes + Salve + 3xBranches
Phase Boots
Radiance
Assault Cuirass/Vlad's depending on which you need more (ideally your teammates get one and you can get the other)
Situational DPS/survivability (e.g. MKB, Buriza, etc.)

Insert small survivability items (Planeswalker's Cloak, Chainmail, Vitality Booster) whenever they seem fitting.

Problem is I'm always low hp and need to spam salves. Do I really not go a quick ring of regen or something? (This is solo mid)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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