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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Any tips on jungling with enchantress? I've been doing pretty well with her. right now i'm 4-0 w/ her (her ulti is ridic). I played original dota, a long ass time ago, back the in days pre-morphling release, and when enchantress ulti was just a regular spell. | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
its just game dependant really, there is no THIS IS HOW YOU BUILD BOUNTY HUNTER, you have to build him according to the situation. | ||
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hideo
Canada1641 Posts
On March 27 2012 09:02 NB wrote: btw, just play against sladar... what is the condition of proc crit on that hero... I mean no crit skill, no crit items and the crit animation (red numbers) just pop like no tomorrow @_@ The red numbers are probably the bonus damage from bash procs. Oh and speaking of tobi + pro casting duo... Fear didn't know Nick was just an AKA of silvercross, so I guess pros can sometimes be just as clueless as tobi when it comes to casting. :D | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On March 27 2012 04:12 rabidch wrote: tobi doesnt need to be analytic as long as hes entertaining. the only issue is if he starts saying stupid things which he occasionally does Which he does more than half of the time he talks. I too used to like the Tobi/Synderen duo, and then I listened to Synderen's solo casts and went "well shit, this is way better." Tobi doesn't add much other than volume. | ||
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Exempt.
United States470 Posts
On March 27 2012 12:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Which he does more than half of the time he talks. I too used to like the Tobi/Synderen duo, and then I listened to Synderen's solo casts and went "well shit, this is way better." Tobi doesn't add much other than volume. lol you're crazy. Tobi's awesome, way better than all sc2 casters. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On March 27 2012 13:01 Exempt. wrote: lol you're crazy. Tobi's awesome, way better than all sc2 casters. Why are you comparing Tobi to SC2 casters? Sure, Tobi's awesome, his enthusiasm during teamfights is what really gets me interested in the cast, but his game knowledge is sometimes questionable, compared to, say, a regular MMer. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
or they cant even run the feild without catching breath? the point is: excitement is what we need to growth a sport and Tobi provides that... how many people watch soccer actually understand how the formation and positioning of a team works or they just watch it to see score? This is why most of the up and coming caster in sc2 scene cant live up to the people who already up there on the market: their knowledge about the game is shit (else they already be playing instead) and their play by play casting is damn boring (open production tab and read food is so so hard). This is why i think most people are bashing on itsgosu stream atm... the caster is too much 'robotic'. Even a NORMAL pub player would scream if they see a long range 5 sec stun arrow but he is just 'stay calm' and read the gold graph.... If you dont have any emotion into this game, its clearly that you dont play it and love it to actually cast it. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On March 27 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote: Why are you comparing Tobi to SC2 casters? Sure, Tobi's awesome, his enthusiasm during teamfights is what really gets me interested in the cast, but his game knowledge is sometimes questionable, compared to, say, a regular MMer. He's been in the scene casting for a few years I think he knows a lot more about the game than a regular MMer.... | ||
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Shraft
Sweden701 Posts
On March 27 2012 13:51 LAN-f34r wrote: I have no problem with a caster not giving any analysis at all. If you don't know what dark seer's armor is, fine. But they shouldn't act like they do know -.- They also should not rudely interrupt the co-casters just in order to scream stupid shit at the top of their lungs. Neither should they make stupid jokes that create awkward silent pauses in the casting. Tobi does both. Frequently. I also fail to understand how people don't grow tired of Tobi's screaming. If he would save the screaming only for rare occasions then sure, it has dramatic effect and is hype-inducing, but if you scream at every little engagement and every kill that happens it becomes an annoyance that really disrupts the casting (especially when you have a co-caster). In my mind Tobi is one of the worst casters ever. He is not even close to the lower-tier SC2-casters. (Synderen, however, is a really good caster.) On March 27 2012 14:18 cilinder007 wrote: He's been in the scene casting for a few years I think he knows a lot more about the game than a regular MMer.... No, he does not know more about the game than the average player. Until just recently he didn't even know that silence doesn't interrupt tp-scrolls. | ||
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Exempt.
United States470 Posts
On March 27 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote: Why are you comparing Tobi to SC2 casters? Sure, Tobi's awesome, his enthusiasm during teamfights is what really gets me interested in the cast, but his game knowledge is sometimes questionable, compared to, say, a regular MMer. because a video game caster is a video game caster? Tobi's game knowledge is way higher than any of the viewers that's certain. The amount of times he properly analyzes and predicts the hero a team will choose before-game is VERY decent for a color commentator. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
I dunno it's like when i play riki everyone on the opp team is all "herp derp I can go wander around solo, no one will get me!" but when I play BH everyone on the opp team is like "dude there's this invis dude who can gank like 3 of us. Let's all stick together as 5 and never leave anyone alone!". Like the fuck? | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + legit topic: anyone in NA find it hard to keep track of joindota stuff since things happen in the early morning? | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
On March 27 2012 14:49 NB wrote: incoming brag picture: + Show Spoiler + legit topic: anyone in NA find it hard to keep track of joindota stuff since things happen in the early morning? What kind of noob build is that? You need a dagon 5 and veil of discord for a real Chen build. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On March 27 2012 14:36 Xinder wrote: Ok so like 10 pages ago we had a BH discussion. I played a few games with him tonight and it's either not my style or I just get teams that love to roam as 5 and I can never do shit for ganking. This then causes our late game to be terrible team wise and me to not have shit for farm. Then we get rolled. I dunno it's like when i play riki everyone on the opp team is all "herp derp I can go wander around solo, no one will get me!" but when I play BH everyone on the opp team is like "dude there's this invis dude who can gank like 3 of us. Let's all stick together as 5 and never leave anyone alone!". Like the fuck? typical pub (mid tier) reaction to invi heroes or late game carries. There are 2 ways in solving this: you either work as a team and AVOID TEAM FIGHT and trade towers for towers (which is really hard to do, dont apply to pub). Or split out solo push AM style(with tele scroll) while your team defend (4+tower vs 5 is kinda even), farmed out with BKB and solo their team. BH will only shine if you have good stun support entering 6-7 mins mark where you are lv 5-6 and ready to kill people. Its important for you to stay alive bc you are the semi carry of your team and more track in team fight simply means more gold for everyone. If you really have problem here are some replays I played BH just for some index: 8750821, 8251104, 8220627... You could also watch sing_sing stream vods and find some good BH play  On March 27 2012 15:07 Dubzex wrote: What kind of noob build is that? You need a dagon 5 and veil of discord for a real Chen build. team fed too much to go dagon  | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
On March 27 2012 14:49 NB wrote: incoming brag picture: + Show Spoiler + legit topic: anyone in NA find it hard to keep track of joindota stuff since things happen in the early morning? After practicing Chen for 3 weeks straight, I now have the power. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Skpwn.jpg) 3 kills 3 assists for the first 5 min. Was counter-jungling them and they just did not see it coming. I love Chen so much. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On March 27 2012 14:29 Exempt. wrote: because a video game caster is a video game caster? Tobi's game knowledge is way higher than any of the viewers that's certain. The amount of times he properly analyzes and predicts the hero a team will choose before-game is VERY decent for a color commentator. Tobi's game knowledge is NOT way higher than any of the viewers that's certain. What you said is so not true. The thing is why everyone thinks he's knowledgeable is that he sounds very confident when saying things, even when they are so so wrong... There are many many examples of that. Also, Tobi is not a color commentator. A color commentator is the analytic one. That's a common terminology misconception. And yeah, it is pretty weird, I thought it was the other way around for a long time, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_commentator | ||
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