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Interview with Cty

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GodBlessMali
Profile Joined December 2012
France251 Posts
January 17 2013 18:17 GMT
#1
The first edition of G-League on Valve’s Dota 2 is coming to an end and was full of surprises to say the least. The early elimination of Team DK — the fourth place finisher at this year’s The International and runner-up at the last G-1 Champions League and World Cyber Games — as well as the brilliant performance of LGD-Gaming International, are one of the numerous events that marked this season of G-League. Another notable highlight is the great performance of ViCi Gaming; an up-and-coming Chinese team predominantly composed of star players from public games also known as “pubstars”.

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In this interview, we sit down with Tianyu “Cty” Chen, the hard-carry of the team, who is already labeled as “The next BurNIng”. The 18-year-old player talks about the formation of the team, his debut in a major tournament, the performance of the team at G-League, his goals and much, much more…


Hello Cty. Thank you very much for accepting this interview with Team Liquid. Despite making a good impression at G-League, you are still a player that the community is not quite familiar with. Could you please take the time to introduce yourself to our readers and tell them more about your gaming background?
I started playing Dota 2 about 3 months ago; before that I played Dota. I’ve also played StarCraft way back.

The team was formed in late October notably thanks to former Pandarea Gaming player, Panpan. Could you please take the time to tell us more about the formation of the team? Who approached you and how were the players picked?
Panpan contacted me. It’s something I’ve always wanted to do and the offer is appealing. Every teammate needs approval from Panpan and each other.

At the exception of Junjie “sydm” Tong — former captain of TyLoo E-sports Club — the team is composed of talented players from public games. Could you please take the time to introduce each player of the team? Which role do they play and who are they in real life?
sydm is our mid solo, very honest and frank in real life, haha. Xtt is the off-laner; he looks tough but is actually very reserved, similar to his play style. Fy and Fenrir are my roommates, so I can’t say much about them, or else.

As mentioned above, Junjie “sydm” Tong is the only player in the team having experience with a competitive team as he was the captain of TyLoo E-sports Club. What role does he have within the team?
He is the sort of the commander for the entire team.

Despite having a player of experience within the team, it is however Xu "fy" Linsen who is the captain and drafter. What are the reasons for having him as captain and drafter over sydm — who seems to have the knowledge and experience?
Back then whoever felt confident about Ban Picking just stood up for the job.

Your first major tournament was G-League — a tournament where you performed very well with the rest of the team. What are the main differences between playing high-level public games and competitive games? In your opinion, what do you think was the biggest adjustment you had to make?
Pub games are more casual; whereas competitive games require victory through stability, clarity on strategy and minimizing errors. To become a professional player I need to adjust my mentality and habits from playing pub games, as well as merge into the team.

To everyone’s surprise, the team qualified for the main event of G-League and made it to the playoffs. However, your debut in the tournament was chaotic as you were unable to compete with MUFC and Invictus Gaming — teams that you lost 0-2 against. How would you describe your debut in the tournament and what do you think are the reasons of the team’s underperformance?
Perhaps it’s because we are a new team, lack of experience and nervousness were huge factors. We can do better.

Following the team’s poor results in the first two matches, the community did not expect you to perform well against TongFu but surprisingly, you managed to take them down with a very convincing 2-0 victory which forced a three-way tie that you admirably passed. The team that played the first two matches and the one that played against TongFu and onwards was completely different. In your first two matches, the team lacked map-control, teamwork and so on but you managed to improve in these areas later on. What changed between your first two matches and the ones starting from TongFu?
Actually we didn't really change. It’s just that the first two matches we didn’t do our best, so it was an accurate read of our skill levels. The last match was a do or die so we didn’t have anything left to hold back.

Despite winning convincingly against TongFu in the group stage, you were not able to defeat them in the tie-breaker. In this match, the team decided to ban Lone Druid and TongFu picked Anti-Mage for Hao, two heroes that you excel with. Why did the team decide to ban Lone Druid while you had the first pick? What was the reasoning behind the Slardar pick?
We threw ourselves off with the ban pick error at the beginning, so in desperation we chose Slardar. We normally don’t use line-ups with both Shadow Fiend and Slardar, but MUFC does; however we still achieved what we had in mind.

You still managed to qualify for the playoffs following your victory over MUFC. In the first round, you had the hard task to face the Chinese roster of LGD-Gaming. What was the team’s reaction when you found out the draw? How did the team practice prior to this confrontation?
We do normally scrim against LGD; results back and forth. In this tournament all we wanted was to do our best.

LGD-Gaming completely dominated your team in the first game but the second and third game were completely different. What was the team’s state of mind prior to the second game?
At the moment I felt that we were still behind the stronger teams in terms of LAN experience. It was depressing and frustrating; but we also realized that we could’ve done better.

The third game is probably considered one of the best games in this season of G-League. In a few sentences, could you please tell us more about this game? What do you think are the reasons you lost it despite having a significant lead? What were your thoughts when LGD-Gaming picked Necrolyte for Sylar — a player who usually plays the same type of heroes than you do?
Because of the lack of LAN experience, we were a bit anxious about not being able to take raxes even though we had an advantage; team fights were also not so great. They had a strong point in the game when Necrolyte got his mek, but our perfect team fight set them behind even more. Necrolyte’s strengths didn't really show after that.

Despite playing very well, you were eliminated from G-League by LGD-Gaming. Retrospectively, what are your thoughts about your team’s performance in your first major competition? What conclusions do you draw from this experience? What do you think the team learned the most from this tournament?
I’m kind of still satisfied about this result, but about our performances I’d have to say so-so. I think our overall strength as a team, LAN experience, and control of the situation all have room for improvement, as well as staying calm when encountering different situations like ban pick phase errors.

The team managed to defeat teams like MUFC and TongFu not to mention that you stood up to LGD-Gaming. What do you think the team lacks to make it to the top four in Asia?
I think it’s still what I’ve said earlier, overall strength, experience and game control still need enhancement. But I believe we can do it!

You have the chance to have a former professional player as manager. Does he also serve as a coach for the team? What is his role as a manager?
He’s actually not a former pro-player. The manager takes care of our daily and financial needs.

Throughout the tournament, we saw you play five different heroes which are: Anti-Mage, Lifestealer, Lone Druid, Luna and Slardar. Anti-Mage and Lone Druid are the heroes that you play the most but teams tend to ban them more often when they play against you. LGD-Gaming’s Sylar was put in a delicate situation at The International 2 when his Anti-Mage and Morphling were banned which caused a lot of problems to the team as a whole. Now, he plays a wider range of heroes which makes him and the team more unpredictable. At the exception of the heroes I mentioned above, can we expect to see you play with more heroes in the future? If yes, which ones do you have in mind?
Of course, as long as the heroes are allowed in competitive games, there will be a chance. Maybe like Shadow Fiend, Phantom Lancer, and Alchemist.

Since the LGD-Gaming vs Team DK confrontation where BurNIng picked Phantom Lancer, we seem to see this hero played more often in competitive games. Why do you think Chinese teams start to pay attention to this hero?
Probably because of the adjustments to his stats gain for agility and the number of illusions; moreover he fits the current version very well, being a late-game carry who can also join team fights in mid-game.

Alchemist, Dragon Knight, Kunkka, Rikimaru, Spectre and more, are all heroes that were once regular picks. Do you think there are heroes that could be played at competitive level but are yet to be picked?
Alchemist and Spectre. Personally I think Alchemist is a hero with lots of potentials.

All these heroes are never or rarely picked in competitive games. What do you think Valve should do to change this?
I think every hero is useful in some way, just depends on the player’s item choices and line-ups. These heroes are all very creative and unique, all I can suggest is perhaps strengthen some skills.

Like all the professional Chinese teams, you are offered a good salary and play in a teamhouse. How does a normal day look for a ViCi Gaming player?
Monday through Saturday from 1pm to midnight is our training schedule, except for meal breaks. During that time we would find teams to scrim against beforehand, and then watch replays, practice laning against each other. We are required to sleep before 3am.

Following your performance in G-League, the community labeled you as “The Next BurNIng”. How does it feel to be compared to the best carry in the DotA history?
I feel that I still have many inadequacies and there’s still a long way in front of me; but of course there’s still a little joy inside (happy face happy happy).

A lot of fantastic players play and still play the game. Is there a player in particular that you admire? If yes, who and why?
No. I don’t know why, but it’s hard for me to admire someone.

You played against the best Chinese teams be it in practice games or in tournaments maybe at the exception of Team DK. In your opinion, which team plays the best Dota? Why?
iG. Their individual skills are very strong, their strategies are always changing, and they have a deep understanding of the game.

If you were to make your own team, which players would you pick and why?
I think iG is already a fantasy team for me, because to me, the way they play is already perfection.

Not too long ago, you won a 1vs1 DotA tournament organized by former LGD-Gaming’s captain, Wu "2009“ Sheng, and defeated the likes of Ferrari_430, Sylar and Hao. Have you ever considered switching roles with sydm so you could play the solo mid role?
I’ve seen people talking about it, but everyone around me including myself believe I’m better fit playing the carry position.

After Lunar New Year, the Chinese scene will probably be active again as G-League, G-1 League and ACE may host another season of their tournament. Will ViCi Gaming enjoy a break from Dota 2 or will you spend the time to practice in order to be prepared to play these tournaments?
There’s a small break for Chinese New Year then re-gather for training I suppose. Of course we will participate in all the tournaments we can.

Like any player playing the game competitively, you probably have goals. What is your ultimate goal? What would you like to achieve as a player and team?
I want to become an unprecedented player with achievements that can’t be compared. I like to exceed others. For the team I hope better achievements and world champion.

You recently turned 18 but you are already a professional player making a living from playing the game. Does it have any impact on your everyday life?
It’s affected in some ways, but I don’t think that matters anymore. I like this game and I have my goals.

Playing video games is hardly accepted by parents and this can be problematic for players wishing to play the game competitively. What do your relatives think about it?
My family is actually supportive of me; they feel that I can decided for myself.

Do you still study?
Unfortunately, no.

You mentioned that you love Badminton. Is it a sport that you play yourself?
Yes.

When you do not play Dota 2, are there other activities that you do by yourself or with your teammates?
Go out or watch movies.

Thank you very much for giving your first interview for a foreign website. Is there anything you would like to add?
I will do my best, and thank you for the interview.


Thank you to XiiTuzi for translating this interview!
"The man who does more than he is paid for will soon be paid for more than he does." Napoleon Hill
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 17 2013 18:28 GMT
#2
Nice interview! Look forward to seeing more VG and Cty this year.
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NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
January 17 2013 18:39 GMT
#3
Had a chance to watch a few of his games in g-league. One game he played as anti mage he was so rich he switched his late game item build like 3 times because he could. He's a sick player, looking to see more from them in the future for sure.
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duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
January 17 2013 18:40 GMT
#4
I really hope VG to make it to The International.
Thanks for the translation.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
January 17 2013 18:42 GMT
#5
Sick interview, thanks a lot !
EHOME
Profile Joined August 2012
Ukraine98 Posts
January 17 2013 18:43 GMT
#6
zaebis interview
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#7
On January 18 2013 03:40 duoform wrote:
I really hope VG to make it to The International.
Thanks for the translation.

Gonna be tough. iG+LGD+DK+LGD.Int are all more or less a lock based on star power. Unless Valve decides to give even more slots to Chinese teams than they did at TI2 (possible I guess), that's 1 slot they're competing for.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 18:48:31
January 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#8
On January 18 2013 03:39 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
One game he played as anti mage he was so rich he switched his late game item build like 3 times because he could.
If anything that was his weakest moment.

He sold his BF against a PL late-game and then couldn't stand up to him so he ended up having to re-buy his BF.

Very skilled player though, but as all of VG they displayed some very questionable late-game decisions and in-game strategy. Should hopefully come with time, I think they need an experienced coach though.
Gonna be tough. iG+LGD+DK+LGD.Int are all more or less a lock based on star power. Unless Valve decides to give even more slots to Chinese teams than they did at TI2 (possible I guess), that's 1 slot they're competing for.
Well they'll likely still have qualifiers. I also don't really think they'll regard LGD.int as a Chinese team when thinking about who to invite.
Once you Goblak...
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
January 17 2013 18:48 GMT
#9
I don't know why he doesn't play mid, he demonstrated he's really strong in that position in the 2009 1vs1 tournament.
His SF was really awesome.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 18:48:42
January 17 2013 18:48 GMT
#10
Great interview, thanks! I enjoyed VG's games against LGD and I can't wait for them to improve.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
AkalineMess
Profile Joined December 2012
249 Posts
January 17 2013 18:49 GMT
#11
I swear badminton is like a huge thing for Asian people. If you go to badminton at my college, it is packed with Asian people.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 18:56:01
January 17 2013 18:52 GMT
#12
I think it's sort of funny that there's such a wide opinion that CTY should switch to playing solo mid. He's undeniably a strong laner, but he seems to lack the wild (seemingly reckless, but actually quite calculated) aggression that characterizes successful Chinese solo mids (see 430, Xiao8, and more recently, God). 2009 said this when comparing CTY to Somnus`M (other pub player invited to his 1v1 tournament)--CTY's strength lies much more toward suppressing the enemy on lane, and much less toward killing people than Somnus`M. Based on that, he seems much more suited for 1st position or 3rd position.

Look at LGD's role swaps. Yao is by Xiao8's own admission a better laner than he is, but it's Xiao8's aggression and gank sense that drive the pace of the game forward for LGD. It's not just about who's stronger at playing a 1v1 lane. With Yao on 2nd position, LGD's game was overall much more passive and less in control.
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GodBlessMali
Profile Joined December 2012
France251 Posts
January 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#13
On January 18 2013 03:49 AkalineMess wrote:
I swear badminton is like a huge thing for Asian people. If you go to badminton at my college, it is packed with Asian people.


Well, the best badminton player in the world is Chinese, there is a reason for it :D
"The man who does more than he is paid for will soon be paid for more than he does." Napoleon Hill
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
January 17 2013 18:55 GMT
#14
On January 18 2013 03:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 03:40 duoform wrote:
I really hope VG to make it to The International.
Thanks for the translation.

Gonna be tough. iG+LGD+DK+LGD.Int are all more or less a lock based on star power. Unless Valve decides to give even more slots to Chinese teams than they did at TI2 (possible I guess), that's 1 slot they're competing for.

Indeed. Also keep in mind ZSMJ's team. Anyone really knows anything about their performance but they have been playing a lot lately (pubs tho) and honestly, I trust in ZSMJ and Ch to delivers a good performance. Hopefully he can make YaphetS one of the two players he was missing.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
January 17 2013 19:07 GMT
#15
oo looking forward to some Alch picks by him..

Also, The man has a really nice pair of pants. Sick style.
Try hard or don't try at all.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
January 17 2013 19:11 GMT
#16
Nice interview! I hadn't heard of him before g-league this year, but he definitely made a good impression.
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Gurgl
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden308 Posts
January 17 2013 19:12 GMT
#17
They di really well in G-league, definitely a promising team.
pap0t
Profile Joined August 2012
Philippines279 Posts
January 17 2013 19:30 GMT
#18
This is the only guy who was so rich farming am that he bought sheepstick :p

more experience for his team and he beast out.
Ownage, maybe?
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 17 2013 19:40 GMT
#19
On January 18 2013 04:30 pap0t wrote:
This is the only guy who was so rich farming am that he bought sheepstick :p

more experience for his team and he beast out.


This is the guy whose team allowed MUFC to dual carry Tinker & PL verse his ungodly farmed AM.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 17 2013 19:42 GMT
#20
On January 18 2013 03:53 GodBlessMali wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 03:49 AkalineMess wrote:
I swear badminton is like a huge thing for Asian people. If you go to badminton at my college, it is packed with Asian people.


Well, the best badminton player in the world is Chinese, there is a reason for it :D

There's probably more badminton players in China than the rest of the world combine. That's even counting all of the Chinese overseas. It's a huge thing.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 17 2013 19:52 GMT
#21
On January 18 2013 04:30 pap0t wrote:
This is the only guy who was so rich farming am that he bought sheepstick :p

more experience for his team and he beast out.

A learning experience.

Next time, have the courier ferry the sheepstick behind him and switch it out when he needs it
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GodBlessMali
Profile Joined December 2012
France251 Posts
January 17 2013 19:53 GMT
#22
On January 18 2013 04:42 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 03:53 GodBlessMali wrote:
On January 18 2013 03:49 AkalineMess wrote:
I swear badminton is like a huge thing for Asian people. If you go to badminton at my college, it is packed with Asian people.


Well, the best badminton player in the world is Chinese, there is a reason for it :D

There's probably more badminton players in China than the rest of the world combine. That's even counting all of the Chinese overseas. It's a huge thing.


Yep. I really like Lee Chong Wei though. I hope I will be able to challenge Cty if I ever go to China :D
"The man who does more than he is paid for will soon be paid for more than he does." Napoleon Hill
noulss
Profile Joined November 2012
France353 Posts
January 17 2013 20:18 GMT
#23
Thanks for the translation, really nice interview, i hope Vici Gaming will keep on getting better so that TI3 will be full of epic teams and then i can die in peace :D
<3
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 17 2013 21:20 GMT
#24
good shit mali
keep it deep! @zulison
GodBlessMali
Profile Joined December 2012
France251 Posts
January 18 2013 07:53 GMT
#25
On January 18 2013 06:20 zul wrote:
good shit mali


Thanks my friend! Glad you enjoyed it!
"The man who does more than he is paid for will soon be paid for more than he does." Napoleon Hill
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
January 18 2013 21:01 GMT
#26
I love these interviews. They probably dont as many views as the star2 stuff. But keep them coming
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 19 2013 15:43 GMT
#27
On January 19 2013 06:01 Burns wrote:
I love these interviews. They probably dont as many views as the star2 stuff. But keep them coming


Yeah they are great!
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
January 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#28
On January 18 2013 03:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 03:40 duoform wrote:
I really hope VG to make it to The International.
Thanks for the translation.

Gonna be tough. iG+LGD+DK+LGD.Int are all more or less a lock based on star power. Unless Valve decides to give even more slots to Chinese teams than they did at TI2 (possible I guess), that's 1 slot they're competing for.


Qualifiers

TI2 had TongGu instead of LGD.int, and WE was a substitute team

Still they have to be better than the new teams, then there's still for love
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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
January 19 2013 20:37 GMT
#29
This got me to thinking, it's kinda hard for new talent to flourish in dota2?

There's so many oldschoolers around who know so much about the game already, it's not like BW->SC2 where the game is super different.

In 2012 alone besides NTH/VG there's not really any other team that's a surprise in terms of talent? And even then, VG has some guy who played for Tyloo and NTH has Loda/Akke...
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
January 19 2013 20:48 GMT
#30
Depends on your definition of 'new talent'. Most of the players in the na/eu scene aren't people who were successful several years ago. I don't think you can really call most of these players 'old school' just because they played in some small leagues 4-5 years ago or played HoN.

If by new talent you mean people who never played the game until like a year ago. Well then it's definitely hard, but we don't really know yet because those players haven't had the time to become known. There aren't many players who have played for 2-3 years because that was a time when Dota wasn't really growing in the west, but we do see some who started in HoN around that time who are now in Dota.

So I'd expect in a year or so we'll see people who didn't play Dota until Dota 2. But we also need more amateur leagues.

(As another note, team games are very difficult to become relevant in. You don't just need to have a lot of dedication you need to have 4 others that do as well. And then with a game like Dota a lot of things you only learn from experience so the amount of "serious" games you have to play to get to the level of understanding about even small things like rune control on the level of typical pro players is very high)
Once you Goblak...
TheAppetizer
Profile Joined February 2011
United States146 Posts
January 19 2013 21:27 GMT
#31
Pretty awesome that pub players can actually do well professionally! Good luck Cty!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 19 2013 23:57 GMT
#32
For new talent in western dota, the first people that pop into my mind are AdmiralBulldog and TC. TC was a minor player in the HoN IH scene from what I know/remember.

EternalEnvy was a really well-known HoN player who played on top teams, so I don't really consider him to have broken out of anything at all (if anything, nth is something of a step down from some of the teams he was on in HoN, in terms of sponsorship, # of tournament finishes, etc.). Nth has way more potential than the HoN teams did though. AdmiralBulldog is a better example for breaking out as a player from being a pubstar syllabear only player.
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