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I doubt anyone from Orange, LGD.cn, DK and TF would change their rosters.
Let's look at iG: in my opinion, YYF and Zhou should at least step out from their respective roles.
Remove Faith from drafting and playing support.
Possible dream-team lineup: Zhou (5), ChuaN / SagM (4), 430 (3), YYF / LaNm (2), Faith (1).
Speaking about Western scene, I'd like to see Fogged returning mid (or offlane) in whatever team he'd like to continue his career. And some great team for NS. He wouldn't fit in NaVi, but maybe NS AA LightofHeaven Scandal blowa superstar lineup for Empire?
I want Liquid to stay the same, but if it isn't possible, keep TC, Korok and Bulba.
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LGD will almost certainly change, even if its only from DD retiring.
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On August 13 2013 11:03 Shaella wrote:
LGD will almost certainly change, even if its only from DD retiring.
You think DD has returned from his supposed retirement only to, unfortunately, get 9-12th place at TI3?
I think the only changes LGD can make are to put ddc mid and Yao / xiao8 on support, but I doubt it would happen.
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On August 13 2013 11:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 11:03 Shaella wrote:
LGD will almost certainly change, even if its only from DD retiring. You think DD has returned from his supposed retirement only to, unfortunately, get 9-12th place at TI3? I think the only changes LGD can make are to put ddc mid and Yao / xiao8 on support.
DD only returned from retirement so they could play in TI3 AT ALL after the LongDD mess
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On August 13 2013 11:18 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 11:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 13 2013 11:03 Shaella wrote:
LGD will almost certainly change, even if its only from DD retiring. You think DD has returned from his supposed retirement only to, unfortunately, get 9-12th place at TI3? I think the only changes LGD can make are to put ddc mid and Yao / xiao8 on support. DD only returned from retirement so they could play in TI3 AT ALL after the LongDD mess
You don't get the point, so let me ask you straight: Why should dd retire AT ALL after TI3, especially when LGD became, arguably, first team in China after his return?
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On August 13 2013 11:00 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 10:51 bagels21 wrote:On August 13 2013 10:03 Seraphic wrote:
It's odd because I do not see Na'Vi changing. Of course they can if Hvost is truly NOT trolling. (Something I find extremely hard to believe.) The issue with Na'Vi hasn't been as obvious in TI3 though. I do see Kky warding, something he kept getting criticized for in TL.
I honestly don't see Na'Vi changing, but we'll see I suppose :o There's probably a higher chance of XBOCT leaving then Kky. The puppey and kky connection is too strong. Those two are like the fated pair of Western Dota(along with Akke/Loda). If anything, I still see Funn1k as the guy who would most likely be swapped. Though it's not going to be anytime soon...Na'Vi swap players way later in the year. Replacing Funn1k will be even tougher then before because no one can replace his spot currently. That's the only real issue with their line-up. Everyone on it is exceptional with their roles. Can anyone else think of someone in that position that can really fit? Funn1k is a perfect fit more or less. I don't see anyone else.
This may be unpopular, but why not bring in Scandal...or maybe LOST for a 2nd stint? Nevertheless, I don't think Na'vi should change anyone. It's a really strong team that will probably get better as long as they stay together
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On August 13 2013 08:19 superstartran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 08:08 YourAdHere wrote:On August 13 2013 07:24 shizaep wrote:Жаль, что частенько твоя судьба зависит от парочки бесполезных идиотов... Спасибо за поддержку, но нави вряд ли продолжит свое существование в таком составе;( rough translation of XBOCT post: "It's sad that oftentimes your fate depends on a pair of useless idiots... Thank you for the support, but na'vi is unlikely to continue it's existence in this state ;(" Not sure if this is some serious bad news for na'vi fans or some emo post that he made while he was drunk. + Show Spoiler [Just for fun +![[image loading]](http://cs314621.vk.me/v314621879/df6/C2hkuEWVNwg.jpg) NA'VI.CHUAN INCOMING!!!111! I assume by pair he means kuroky and funn1k? Seems more like he's upset with Puppey and Kuorky more than anything. Based on the circumstantial evidence, it's pretty apparent Hvost was none to pleased with Puppey's drafts/calls, and definitely was not happy with Kuroky early gg'ing in game 1.
The gg was minimal, that game was over already.
Word on the street says that after the rosh fight in game 5 hvoss wanted to defend the split-push since dendi dropped his tp for the aegis, puppey and kuro decided to push and force s4's bb.
No reliable source.
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On August 13 2013 11:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 11:18 Shaella wrote:On August 13 2013 11:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 13 2013 11:03 Shaella wrote:
LGD will almost certainly change, even if its only from DD retiring. You think DD has returned from his supposed retirement only to, unfortunately, get 9-12th place at TI3? I think the only changes LGD can make are to put ddc mid and Yao / xiao8 on support. DD only returned from retirement so they could play in TI3 AT ALL after the LongDD mess You don't get the point, so let me ask you straight: Why should dd retire AT ALL after TI3, especially when LGD became, arguably, first team in China after his return?
TI3 matters and they got 9th. I'd be highly surprised if they don't change something.
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On August 13 2013 11:01 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I doubt anyone from Orange, LGD.cn, DK and TF would change their rosters.
Let's look at iG: in my opinion, YYF and Zhou should at least step out from their respective roles.
Remove Faith from drafting and playing support.
Possible dream-team lineup: Zhou (5), ChuaN / SagM (4), 430 (3), YYF / LaNm (2), Faith (1).
Speaking about Western scene, I'd like to see Fogged returning mid (or offlane) in whatever team he'd like to continue his career. And some great team for NS. He wouldn't fit in NaVi, but maybe NS AA LightofHeaven Scandal blowa superstar lineup for Empire?
I want Liquid to stay the same, but if it isn't possible, keep TC, Korok and Bulba.
I like your new Empire team, but who captains them? With NS saying he doesn't like the captain role, I don't see anyone else suitable...if only Goblak and Scandal/Blowa didn't burn their bridges.
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On August 13 2013 11:27 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 11:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 13 2013 11:18 Shaella wrote:On August 13 2013 11:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 13 2013 11:03 Shaella wrote:
LGD will almost certainly change, even if its only from DD retiring. You think DD has returned from his supposed retirement only to, unfortunately, get 9-12th place at TI3? I think the only changes LGD can make are to put ddc mid and Yao / xiao8 on support. DD only returned from retirement so they could play in TI3 AT ALL after the LongDD mess You don't get the point, so let me ask you straight: Why should dd retire AT ALL after TI3, especially when LGD became, arguably, first team in China after his return? TI3 matters and they got 9th. I'd be highly surprised if they don't change something.
Theoretically, only xiao8 could be replaced if he doesn't manage to regain his form in 3-6 months, and I doubt even that because there would not be any top-class free mid players aviable for that moment and changing your roster one month before ACE League where wouldn't be a single Western team presented.. seems not worth it.
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On August 13 2013 11:27 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 11:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 13 2013 11:18 Shaella wrote:On August 13 2013 11:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 13 2013 11:03 Shaella wrote:
LGD will almost certainly change, even if its only from DD retiring. You think DD has returned from his supposed retirement only to, unfortunately, get 9-12th place at TI3? I think the only changes LGD can make are to put ddc mid and Yao / xiao8 on support. DD only returned from retirement so they could play in TI3 AT ALL after the LongDD mess You don't get the point, so let me ask you straight: Why should dd retire AT ALL after TI3, especially when LGD became, arguably, first team in China after his return? TI3 matters and they got 9th. I'd be highly surprised if they don't change something.
Everyone knows that LGD played way below their potential this TI. 9-12th is definitely not where they're supposed to be at with their current arrangement at all.
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LGD had to play against Alliance and then TL in a bo1 which anyone can win. Doesn't mean TL is better than them and it certainly doesn't mean LGD is a weak team. However, their group performance was quite poor.
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I would love to see ChuaN going back to mid. He was a beast back in the day.
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Looking at Liquid I don't know who leaves but sadly I think someone will... Korok said in his interview with hotbid at TI3 he was closest to mike on the team so those two might stay together and mike's been with fluff and tc since Col days. Bulba has always seemed like the odd one out (imo) from the limited amount we get to see. His clock against LGD is reason enough to try and keep him though.
Honestly the person I see leaving, if any, could be fluff just because he always seems so conflicted in his blog posts about where he is going and his confidence.
The play style differences are the main thing for them though, they want one vision and they've made it obvious that they don't have it as is.
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On August 13 2013 11:33 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 11:27 Seraphic wrote:On August 13 2013 11:26 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 13 2013 11:18 Shaella wrote:On August 13 2013 11:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On August 13 2013 11:03 Shaella wrote:
LGD will almost certainly change, even if its only from DD retiring. You think DD has returned from his supposed retirement only to, unfortunately, get 9-12th place at TI3? I think the only changes LGD can make are to put ddc mid and Yao / xiao8 on support. DD only returned from retirement so they could play in TI3 AT ALL after the LongDD mess You don't get the point, so let me ask you straight: Why should dd retire AT ALL after TI3, especially when LGD became, arguably, first team in China after his return? TI3 matters and they got 9th. I'd be highly surprised if they don't change something. Theoretically, only xiao8 could be replaced if he doesn't manage to regain his form in 3-6 months, and I doubt even that because there would not be any top-class free mid players aviable for that moment and changing your roster one month before ACE League where wouldn't be a single Western team presented.. seems not worth it.
This may be crazy, but if DD does indeed retire, could LGD possibly poach Fy from VG?
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On August 13 2013 11:38 giftdgecko wrote:
Looking at Liquid I don't know who leaves but sadly I think someone will... Korok said in his interview with hotbid at TI3 he was closest to mike on the team so those two might stay together and mike's been with fluff and tc since Col days. Bulba has always seemed like the odd one out (imo) from the limited amount we get to see. His clock against LGD is reason enough to try and keep him though.
Honestly the person I see leaving, if any, could be fluff just because he always seems so conflicted in his blog posts about where he is going and his confidence.
The play style differences are the main thing for them though, they want one vision and they've made it obvious that they don't have it as is.
NADota "sources" have stated that Korok and Mike are out.
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If Liquid has some roster shuffles, I'm keeping my eye on Bulba, I think he would do well on a team with sing and Demon, put demon mid, bulba offlane, and sing on carry 
playmakers all around
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On August 13 2013 11:40 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 11:38 giftdgecko wrote:
Looking at Liquid I don't know who leaves but sadly I think someone will... Korok said in his interview with hotbid at TI3 he was closest to mike on the team so those two might stay together and mike's been with fluff and tc since Col days. Bulba has always seemed like the odd one out (imo) from the limited amount we get to see. His clock against LGD is reason enough to try and keep him though.
Honestly the person I see leaving, if any, could be fluff just because he always seems so conflicted in his blog posts about where he is going and his confidence.
The play style differences are the main thing for them though, they want one vision and they've made it obvious that they don't have it as is. NADota "sources" have stated that Korok and Mike are out.
This would make me sad as Korok isn't someone replaceable within NA. Mike could be replaced by MSS but who replaces Korok
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LGD went 8-6 in groupstages. 1 loss to NaVi's Pudge+PotM, 1 loss to Fnatic due to Yao Bat, and Spectre against DK+Weaver draft, 1 loss against DK's pocket strat, and 3 straight loses due to expiremental Yao Razor draft.
Then LGD gave us the closest series against Alliance at the tournament, and lost bo1 to creative Liquid draft and magnificient Bulba clock play on top of Yao Mag underperforming.
Yeah, let's fire DD. beatiful logic, guys.
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Yao, DD, and Xiao8 have been friends since childhood. Unless something really broke down, I find it unlikely that those 3 are just going to split ways haphazardly. Sylar is irreplaceable so there's really no chance that they'd let him go, and there's not really a reason why you'd boot DDC.
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