EPTThe post-TI3 Roster Shuffle thread - Page 192
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icystorage
Jollibee19346 Posts
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
Korok is great and his skill isn't something you can replace or match, you simply try a different approach. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 22 2013 09:31 SnowfaLL wrote: I think you can argue its true; afterall bulba is the one who re-introduced clockwork into the current meta back in February.. No one was using clock at all, then Liquid use it like 4-5 times in one or two weeks, and suddenly everyone starts using it. Even China began using it around June (thank god, watching the same 10 heroes every game from China games was annoying) And at TI3, Bulba showed again his clockwork performance. If we talk about Bulldog being the most known Lone druid/NP player, then I think Bulba deserves that kind of praise for his clockwork. And TC for his Razor. That's a fair enough point, but we still have other players like Brax, who single-handedly won a game at TI3 with his Clock play (shutting down both enemy supports, getting huge pickoffs throughout the rest of the game). On September 22 2013 09:35 giftdgecko wrote: Nazgul doesn't build a team on talent alone, it's about how the players mesh and their personalities. Both qoj and wts seem like good liquid fits. The other guys seem to like them, and they all seem to share the same mindset on how to play. If alliance has shown anything, it's that dedication and a similar approach on how to play can go a long way. Alliance players aren't the most talented at their positions (although I believe Akke might be), but they are all damn good and better together. This is what liquid wants to build. Korok is great and his skill isn't something you can replace or match, you simply try a different approach. Although you're spot-on about Alliance working together perfectly, Loda is probably the most versatile carry player in the world (though arguments could be made about his other talents), and EGM is definitely in contention for the best high-impact support (can't say 4 or 5 position, because it varies depending on whether Akke plays Chen). Bulldog is also the best player at those few heroes he can actually use, though he also has one of the lowest total counts of playable heroes. s4 and Akke are superbly talented as well, though I don't think I can quite say "best" for either. So there's a huge amount going for them in sheer skill as well as team coordination. | ||
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Dr. Von Derful
United States363 Posts
On September 22 2013 08:54 SnowfaLL wrote: u serious?? wayto over mike is a HUGE upgrade, and I like mike. But Wayto is arguably the best north american support. And if he is as dedicated as Nazgul said (and Nazgul is one of the smartest people in esports) then thats all the more reason to support this decision, no pun intended. Korok for Qojv is a push; but Qojv gives Liquid something they never had before: a Natures Prophet player. Remember throughout TI3, whenever Mouz played agame with Qojv on NP, the casters were all like "Keep an eye out for Courier snipes, Qojv is the best at it" - This is what the new dota meta needs, splitpushing and misdirection, which is why Alliance won. Add in finally a top-notch Chen player like Alliance uses to still have the brute force to stop pushes (or push) while NP is splitpushing, and you can finally pull off the current meta. Mike and korok handicapped Liquid from doing that before, due to their limited hero pool (well, Bulba not playing NP and if FLUFF took chen, mike couldn take complimentary heros like Naga) I still hope Bulba plays clockwork offlane at times though when its drafted. Qojv can 3 for everything else, but Bulba should offlane clockwork, as hes the best in the world at it. You seem to remember how Qojva performed during TI3 but can't seem to remember how wayto performed during the entire year  . During TI3 wayto seemed to ride on the fact the high damage output of an aghs impetus enchantress was somehow attributed to "being a good player", despite the fact his presence as a jungler is rarely felt (or of course the only note worthy play he made all year with a naga song steal). His drafts handicapped Dignitas by giving players heroes they weren't familiar with or already countered by the other team, he had poor ingame decision making, and he somehow makes Visage look extremely underwhelming. You mind as well of just kept Mike on the active roster instead and saved yourself the time of signing a new player.I'm all for Qojva, I was really hoping he was going to join KP (but I guess I can settle for Aui since he's showing us what a four role can really bring to the table); however, the split push style requires more than just one person. You can't just simply go and push a lane. Synderen, Black, Fata and paS were able to make that space happen, but can Liquid? It's something we'll have to see with time. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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fascistfromhell
1689 Posts
I was thinking about this today. I saw somewhere that Liquid is back on Netherlands, right? And now they have 2 canadians, 2 americans and (most likely) 1 german. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 22 2013 09:50 teddyoojo wrote: if liquid wins ti4 its obviously a german team I'm all for that if we can have beer to celebrate. | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
On September 22 2013 09:35 Acritter wrote: That's a fair enough point, but we still have other players like Brax, who single-handedly won a game at TI3 with his Clock play (shutting down both enemy supports, getting huge pickoffs throughout the rest of the game). Although you're spot-on about Alliance working together perfectly, Loda is probably the most versatile carry player in the world (though arguments could be made about his other talents), and EGM is definitely in contention for the best high-impact support (can't say 4 or 5 position, because it varies depending on whether Akke plays Chen). Bulldog is also the best player at those few heroes he can actually use, though he also has one of the lowest total counts of playable heroes. s4 and Akke are superbly talented as well, though I don't think I can quite say "best" for either. So there's a huge amount going for them in sheer skill as well as team coordination. Yeah they are all near the top, I just feel that none of them are the best. Although I guess with dota that all has a lot to do with what heroes you end up on. I guess I want to see if wts can do every game what he did on rubick in ti3 | ||
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URLateral
275 Posts
On September 22 2013 09:45 fascistfromhell wrote: So, do we still consider Liquid an american team? I was thinking about this today. I saw somewhere that Liquid is back on Netherlands, right? And now they have 2 canadians, 2 americans and (most likely) 1 german. are you kidding me everyone considered EG american and they had bamboe | ||
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xxjondxx
United States89 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On September 22 2013 13:31 xxjondxx wrote: All I know is it's going to be U-S-A! chants at ti4 for TL not some other country It's gonna be USA chants for Navi and Alliance as well. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/25424-team-liquid--welcomes-demon Liquid Demon | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On September 22 2013 15:11 zaii wrote: Are Gosugamers trolling or did the author dun goofed http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/25424-team-liquid--welcomes-demon Liquid Demon Obviously trolling | ||
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Xialos
Canada508 Posts
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
On September 22 2013 23:54 Xialos wrote: What is happening with Qpad red dragoons? Is it still only Waga and jerax? Nobody knows, maybe qpad.cwm. | ||
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Kirsed
9380 Posts
On September 22 2013 23:54 Xialos wrote: What is happening with Qpad red dragoons? Is it still only Waga and jerax? The same as always with that team. Nothing. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Yeah, he did say he is leaving (or already is) to sweden for few months(?). | ||
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SnowfaLL
Canada730 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On September 23 2013 09:41 SnowfaLL wrote: hmm.. I just decided to look at HoN results for fun.. and I noticed that ppd plays for "Team USA" still.. So, that means, this week, ppd has played in a professional HoN game AND a professional dota 2 game! Thats pretty crazy. I guess its a team game so its not as impressive as the Kespa BW/SC2 combined tourney, but still pretty impressive. Not nearly as impressive as Iceiceice | ||
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