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Avs
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (North)857 Posts
August 13 2013 00:35 GMT
#61
Make sure you also update the TL wikipedia section about player moves.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 13 2013 00:35 GMT
#62
Something to keep in mind when thinking about the EG team shuffle (which will impact everything else that happens when it comes to NA dota) is that Fear is the captain and he isn't going anywhere. The next thing to know is that Fear has a large amount of weight when it comes to deciding who will be on the team.

In the most recent interviews it seemed that Fear really appreciated Jeyo's work ethic. If Dignitas is really disbanding I can see Fear looking at Fogged as I have seen them stack together and be friendly towards one another and of course Universe. That would put the team at Fear, Jeyo, Universe and Fogged +1. Assuming LGD.int disband which is all but confirmed we could maybe see that +1 being brax. Something out of left field would be P0werNet getting back in the scene as he stood in for EG a few times near the end but this is a long shot.

Whoever mentioned MSS joining EG that is really interesting as I thought he was always closer to the Liquid guys and I assumed he would take Mike's spot if Mike and Korok were going to be the ones to leave Liquid.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 13 2013 00:36 GMT
#63
On August 13 2013 09:14 LSB wrote:
I don't know if EG is going to be the path through where we see the superstar NA dota team come through, although they have the money / fear, it seems like they prioritize stream viewers and exposer over results and practice which many of the more serious players want.

If anything Alliance teaches us that it is incredibly important to have everyone speaking the language they are comfortable in, and their teamfight ability shows it. I think KuroKy to leave Na Vi (would like to see LoH back there), and the Kaipi situation is just awkward.


Its really up to EG to decide if they prioritize the PR more than the winning. Obviously Demon is great if you want stream viewers, but not if you want to win. Sure the EG money is nice for Fear but he seems like he just wants to fucking win and with that roster they're not going anywhere. EG have the best asset they could wish for in him to build around and they'd be retarded to not take advantage of it. I have a feeling it's a let me make my team at all costs or let me go.

I think the chemistry on the team is a huge part of Alliance. If you hate a teammate that's going to be cancerous so I'd like to see EG not just pick up superstars because they're superstars, but get amazing talent that gel as a unit. People that take it seriously, work hard, get along, and are willing to live together for a year and push for not just getting to TI4 but taking it.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 13 2013 00:38 GMT
#64
I think fear and fluff are amazingly consistent while i feel that bulba is good on clutch heroes like clock and tinker.

when bulba needs to play on top of his mind on clock though, he delivers
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
August 13 2013 00:39 GMT
#65
On August 13 2013 09:35 Snorkle wrote:
Something to keep in mind when thinking about the EG team shuffle (which will impact everything else that happens when it comes to NA dota) is that Fear is the captain and he isn't going anywhere. The next thing to know is that Fear has a large amount of weight when it comes to deciding who will be on the team.

In the most recent interviews it seemed that Fear really appreciated Jeyo's work ethic. If Dignitas is really disbanding I can see Fear looking at Fogged as I have seen them stack together and be friendly towards one another and of course Universe. That would put the team at Fear, Jeyo, Universe and Fogged +1. Assuming LGD.int disband which is all but confirmed we could maybe see that +1 being brax. Something out of left field would be P0werNet getting back in the scene as he stood in for EG a few times near the end but this is a long shot.

Whoever mentioned MSS joining EG that is really interesting as I thought he was always closer to the Liquid guys and I assumed he would take Mike's spot if Mike and Korok were going to be the ones to leave Liquid.

Fear Jeyo Universe and Fogged seems pretty scary to me. But that team needs a solid mid player

Maybe if EG pulls Korok from Liquid?
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 13 2013 00:42 GMT
#66
On August 13 2013 09:39 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 09:35 Snorkle wrote:
Something to keep in mind when thinking about the EG team shuffle (which will impact everything else that happens when it comes to NA dota) is that Fear is the captain and he isn't going anywhere. The next thing to know is that Fear has a large amount of weight when it comes to deciding who will be on the team.

In the most recent interviews it seemed that Fear really appreciated Jeyo's work ethic. If Dignitas is really disbanding I can see Fear looking at Fogged as I have seen them stack together and be friendly towards one another and of course Universe. That would put the team at Fear, Jeyo, Universe and Fogged +1. Assuming LGD.int disband which is all but confirmed we could maybe see that +1 being brax. Something out of left field would be P0werNet getting back in the scene as he stood in for EG a few times near the end but this is a long shot.

Whoever mentioned MSS joining EG that is really interesting as I thought he was always closer to the Liquid guys and I assumed he would take Mike's spot if Mike and Korok were going to be the ones to leave Liquid.

Fear Jeyo Universe and Fogged seems pretty scary to me. But that team needs a solid mid player

Maybe if EG pulls Korok from Liquid?


Jeyo, Fogged, Universe, and Fear(Fistful of Tangoes Champ lol) could all play mid. Literally all 4 members can play every role besides maybe offlane.

If this team got together they could pick any position they want. It's essentially an NA dream team.
DomiNater
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States527 Posts
August 13 2013 00:45 GMT
#67
Holy Shit that jacket Nazgul is wearing is pure sex!!! When is Liquid going to start selling those? I'd definitely buy one of them!
After I captured the elephant in the room, swept her under the rug for the hell of it... I welcome you to the melting through, of a planet that was selfish in its development of a healthy view.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
August 13 2013 00:48 GMT
#68
On August 13 2013 09:42 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 09:39 Shaella wrote:
On August 13 2013 09:35 Snorkle wrote:
Something to keep in mind when thinking about the EG team shuffle (which will impact everything else that happens when it comes to NA dota) is that Fear is the captain and he isn't going anywhere. The next thing to know is that Fear has a large amount of weight when it comes to deciding who will be on the team.

In the most recent interviews it seemed that Fear really appreciated Jeyo's work ethic. If Dignitas is really disbanding I can see Fear looking at Fogged as I have seen them stack together and be friendly towards one another and of course Universe. That would put the team at Fear, Jeyo, Universe and Fogged +1. Assuming LGD.int disband which is all but confirmed we could maybe see that +1 being brax. Something out of left field would be P0werNet getting back in the scene as he stood in for EG a few times near the end but this is a long shot.

Whoever mentioned MSS joining EG that is really interesting as I thought he was always closer to the Liquid guys and I assumed he would take Mike's spot if Mike and Korok were going to be the ones to leave Liquid.

Fear Jeyo Universe and Fogged seems pretty scary to me. But that team needs a solid mid player

Maybe if EG pulls Korok from Liquid?


Jeyo, Fogged, Universe, and Fear(Fistful of Tangoes Champ lol) could all play mid. Literally all 4 members can play every role besides maybe offlane.

If this team got together they could pick any position they want. It's essentially an NA dream team.

i feel like Fogged is one of the strongest supports NA, his mid was never.. That impressive to me, and fear is amazing on support or carry. Jeyo is just very solid all around, but not outstanding in any one role, but i think he played a solid carry. Universe is a FANTASTIC offlaner.

I mean, they can swap roles up, but this is just my opinion on them
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Tunga
Profile Joined August 2011
United States765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 01:02:32
August 13 2013 00:52 GMT
#69
LGD.int has very good individual players imo. I think playing in China really weighed them down because they were practicing in less meaningful conditions (Not having anything on the line) and having no variety in play style. I liked China when they were trying out heroes like Luna, Necrolyte, Kunkka and etc. It really seemed like they got too scared to try new strats at TI3 and decided safe play was the best. Hopefully China learns something from TI3 and not jump the gun by reshuffling just because of a bad performance.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 13 2013 01:03 GMT
#70
It's odd because I do not see Na'Vi changing. Of course they can if Hvost is truly NOT trolling. (Something I find extremely hard to believe.) The issue with Na'Vi hasn't been as obvious in TI3 though. I do see Kky warding, something he kept getting criticized for in TL.

I honestly don't see Na'Vi changing, but we'll see I suppose :o
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
August 13 2013 01:11 GMT
#71
On August 13 2013 09:52 Tunga wrote:
LGD.int has very good individual players imo. I think playing in China really weighed them down because they were practicing in less meaningful conditions (Not having anything on the line) and having no variety in play style. I liked China when they were trying out heroes like Luna, Necrolyte, Kunkka and etc. It really seemed like they got too scared to try new strats at TI3 and decided safe play was the best. Hopefully China learns something from TI3 and not jump the gun by reshuffling just because of a bad performance.

I don't follow dota too closely but yeah, China definitely can learn a lot from TI3. Orange's success showed that the asian players definitely need some variety
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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 13 2013 01:14 GMT
#72
On August 13 2013 08:44 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Awesome post.
A shame about Na'vi, hvost did mention some issues with kky in his interview with Soe aswell I believe (though it was more towards the language barrier than playstyles). Honestly given hvost's recent performance I wouldn't expect him to leave, short of an offer from the new org Astana Dragons (who recently picked up a couple of players from Navi's C'S:GO team (who had been a part of Navi in 1.6 aswell).

I can see Dignitas making a small change, Liquid less as far as NA goes.


Thanks for telling me about Na'Vi's CS team breaking up. That got me actually -.-

I became a fan of Na'Vi in 2010 with their CS 1.6 team (that roster that just broke up) and seeing them finally breaking up after 3 years feels... sad... Especially losing Edward and mark...

Egh that's actually more depressing then anything else. -.-

Now that I'm thinking about it, I hope their DotA 2 team doesn't change. If the language problem truly is their then maybe Kky will go, but breaking away with Puppey seems sad too.

I don't know now lol. Any change to Na'Vi currently will be very hard I assume, and who can really replace Kky?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 13 2013 01:36 GMT
#73
On August 13 2013 08:06 Shaella wrote:
esp since EG just won 1.4mil


Alex started another brand for a reason. If you going to call it anything call them the Alliance k thx.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
August 13 2013 01:41 GMT
#74
On August 13 2013 10:36 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 08:06 Shaella wrote:
esp since EG just won 1.4mil


Alex started another brand for a reason. If you going to call it anything call them the Alliance k thx.

SweEG?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 13 2013 01:49 GMT
#75
On August 13 2013 09:48 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 09:42 bagels21 wrote:
On August 13 2013 09:39 Shaella wrote:
On August 13 2013 09:35 Snorkle wrote:
Something to keep in mind when thinking about the EG team shuffle (which will impact everything else that happens when it comes to NA dota) is that Fear is the captain and he isn't going anywhere. The next thing to know is that Fear has a large amount of weight when it comes to deciding who will be on the team.

In the most recent interviews it seemed that Fear really appreciated Jeyo's work ethic. If Dignitas is really disbanding I can see Fear looking at Fogged as I have seen them stack together and be friendly towards one another and of course Universe. That would put the team at Fear, Jeyo, Universe and Fogged +1. Assuming LGD.int disband which is all but confirmed we could maybe see that +1 being brax. Something out of left field would be P0werNet getting back in the scene as he stood in for EG a few times near the end but this is a long shot.

Whoever mentioned MSS joining EG that is really interesting as I thought he was always closer to the Liquid guys and I assumed he would take Mike's spot if Mike and Korok were going to be the ones to leave Liquid.

Fear Jeyo Universe and Fogged seems pretty scary to me. But that team needs a solid mid player

Maybe if EG pulls Korok from Liquid?


Jeyo, Fogged, Universe, and Fear(Fistful of Tangoes Champ lol) could all play mid. Literally all 4 members can play every role besides maybe offlane.

If this team got together they could pick any position they want. It's essentially an NA dream team.

i feel like Fogged is one of the strongest supports NA, his mid was never.. That impressive to me, and fear is amazing on support or carry. Jeyo is just very solid all around, but not outstanding in any one role, but i think he played a solid carry. Universe is a FANTASTIC offlaner.

I mean, they can swap roles up, but this is just my opinion on them


Arteezy as the solo mid? haha
honestly I think this team would be sick with MSS...that guy needs to be on a pro team somehow and I think this team would be super tryhard if they got together.(not a bad thing)
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 13 2013 01:51 GMT
#76
On August 13 2013 10:03 Seraphic wrote:
It's odd because I do not see Na'Vi changing. Of course they can if Hvost is truly NOT trolling. (Something I find extremely hard to believe.) The issue with Na'Vi hasn't been as obvious in TI3 though. I do see Kky warding, something he kept getting criticized for in TL.

I honestly don't see Na'Vi changing, but we'll see I suppose :o


There's probably a higher chance of XBOCT leaving then Kky. The puppey and kky connection is too strong. Those two are like the fated pair of Western Dota(along with Akke/Loda).

If anything, I still see Funn1k as the guy who would most likely be swapped. Though it's not going to be anytime soon...Na'Vi swap players way later in the year.
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
August 13 2013 01:55 GMT
#77
CLG squad?
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/25082-travis-interviews-clg-manager-about-lcs-and-the-possibility-of-another-dota-team
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 13 2013 01:57 GMT
#78
On August 13 2013 10:41 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 10:36 StarStruck wrote:
On August 13 2013 08:06 Shaella wrote:
esp since EG just won 1.4mil


Alex started another brand for a reason. If you going to call it anything call them the Alliance k thx.

SweEG?


ha ha ha. Alex's allowed to have more than one brand man but that fits lol
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
August 13 2013 01:58 GMT
#79
On August 13 2013 10:55 pedrlz wrote:
CLG squad?
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/25082-travis-interviews-clg-manager-about-lcs-and-the-possibility-of-another-dota-team

meh
idk if this will be worthwhile for CLG
their LoL team is kinda struggling right now, prob best for them to just concentrate on league for the time being
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 13 2013 02:00 GMT
#80
On August 13 2013 10:51 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 10:03 Seraphic wrote:
It's odd because I do not see Na'Vi changing. Of course they can if Hvost is truly NOT trolling. (Something I find extremely hard to believe.) The issue with Na'Vi hasn't been as obvious in TI3 though. I do see Kky warding, something he kept getting criticized for in TL.

I honestly don't see Na'Vi changing, but we'll see I suppose :o


There's probably a higher chance of XBOCT leaving then Kky. The puppey and kky connection is too strong. Those two are like the fated pair of Western Dota(along with Akke/Loda).

If anything, I still see Funn1k as the guy who would most likely be swapped. Though it's not going to be anytime soon...Na'Vi swap players way later in the year.


Replacing Funn1k will be even tougher then before because no one can replace his spot currently.

That's the only real issue with their line-up. Everyone on it is exceptional with their roles. Can anyone else think of someone in that position that can really fit? Funn1k is a perfect fit more or less. I don't see anyone else.
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