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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 15 2013 18:43 GMT
#721
Wait dota2 gets big and actually available to most players who want to play the game, and then, boom, 1000 chinese artezees showed up.

or i meant 100 cty(s).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 15 2013 18:44 GMT
#722
On August 16 2013 03:36 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:36 Klonere wrote:
anyone want to get me nadota backdoor access

word is eg is kicking everyone except fear


Gotta suck GrandGrants dick for that one.


grants been all emo since ti3 finished saying how awful it was (for him personally i think not the event itself) so thats a no go
tehplank
Profile Joined October 2010
977 Posts
August 15 2013 18:45 GMT
#723
The thought of Burning in iG.. Burning - 430 - YYF holy shit
Minatozaki Sana / Hirai Momo / Myoui Mina / Yoo Jeongyeon / Zhou Tzuyu / Im Nayeon / Son Chaeyoung / Kim Dahyun / Park Jihyo
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 15 2013 18:45 GMT
#724
On August 16 2013 03:44 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:36 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 16 2013 03:36 Klonere wrote:
anyone want to get me nadota backdoor access

word is eg is kicking everyone except fear


Gotta suck GrandGrants dick for that one.


grants been all emo since ti3 finished saying how awful it was (for him personally i think not the event itself) so thats a no go


It was awful because the nadota circle didn't want him anymore.
secret - never again
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 15 2013 18:46 GMT
#725
We are greedier for news than the pros are for roster changes.
It's a bit like old rome with gladiator matches.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 18:50:04
August 15 2013 18:47 GMT
#726
On August 16 2013 03:26 Caladbolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 16 2013 01:37 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
On August 16 2013 01:32 TanGeng wrote:
On August 16 2013 00:58 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
yao told me that xiao8 doesnt have the motivation to continue playing. he also told me sylar wants to play mid and burning might join and play 1.


Bulba, Get in here and tell me exactly what Yao said!!!! This doesn't play well with other stuff that's publicly floating around. LGD is also a mad rumour mill. BurNing on LGD is really ambitious.

it was at lunch and asked yao if lgd will change. he said he is not sure whether xiao8 will continue. supposedly xiao8 got a lot of flame by the chinese community for his performance and picks. i asked him what will happen and he said he will probably go back to the 3 role and sylar might play mid or continue playing carry. i heard ig wants burning as well possibly but xiao8 was extremely depressed.

"He" means xiao8, I suppose? Or Yao?

BurNIng changing teams is the worst kind of thing that can happen to Chinese Dota at all.
His ambitions are understandable, but it is not like it's exclusively other DK members' fault they didn't reach TI3 Grand Finals.

Xiao8 was only good at the early of his dota career with his weaver

That's bullshit.


Why? So he has to stay in DK or else? Honestly, Chinese reshuffles have a way of bringing out the best in some people, and creating absolutely dominant teams like EHOME 2010. If what the Chinese stars need are changes of scenery (like, maybe xiao8 could go to iG and replace Chuan, while Chuan goes carry for DK? Who knows, really?), then it's all well and good!

China needs that juggernaut team much like Na'vi (for CIS), Alliance (for SWE), and Orange (for Malaysia) to get back in the mix for contenders in TI4. They also need to start traveling more often and playing in the Dreamhacks of the world.

I don't believe in wonders. It has to be considered xiao8 and BurNing are the captains of their respective teams, and have more than professional bounds with team members. It's not like the teams they lead have been doing piss-poorly all year either.

It's too damn early to speak about TI4, but every team you mentioned is beatable for top Chinese teams without any roster changes. It's the level of preparation that matters. And some luck too (guess which team I am looking at).
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 15 2013 18:49 GMT
#727
I hope Puppey getting kicked off Na'Vi isn't true... His captaining has carried Na'Vi for the past 2 years. Goblak+silent would be a very good replacement, but it wouldn't be the same.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 18:50:17
August 15 2013 18:49 GMT
#728
EDIT: nvm
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 18:51:13
August 15 2013 18:50 GMT
#729
STAHP
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 15 2013 18:51 GMT
#730
Why'd Klonere redact one of the juiciest tidbits yet?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
August 15 2013 18:52 GMT
#731
On August 16 2013 03:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
Why'd Klonere redact one of the juiciest tidbits yet?

prob cuz it was faek
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 15 2013 18:52 GMT
#732
On August 16 2013 03:50 flamewheel wrote:
STAHP


I saw that.
secret - never again
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 15 2013 18:52 GMT
#733
On August 16 2013 03:52 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:50 flamewheel wrote:
STAHP


I saw that.

no u dint im a horse
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 15 2013 18:53 GMT
#734
dont look at my silly edit, ice3 is streaming with no shirt on
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 15 2013 18:53 GMT
#735
Who is helen? and why are all the tidbits disappearing?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 15 2013 18:53 GMT
#736
Honestly the likelihood of Burning leaving DK for another team is very unlikely. This iteration of DK and the last one were virtually built around Burning (DK from early 2011 with Burning PIS KingJ ks Gx had really shitty results, so they basically scrapped the other 4 to build a lineup around Burning). Burning has said quite a few times how good the DK management is to him and I believe he was once quoted as saying that it would be the last team for him before he retires (as in, the management is so good to him that he would feel bad leaving them for another team).

Honestly, even if Burning doesn't want to play with his teammates, I'd say DK dropping the other 4 and making a new lineup around Burning would be more likely than them letting Burning leave.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 15 2013 18:53 GMT
#737
On August 16 2013 03:49 Klonere wrote:
EDIT: nvm


I was gonna say, incoming (new) Navi.LGD?

might as well just buy off [A] or Navi, int was a waste of resources (no offense really).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Spit-wad
Profile Joined June 2011
United States297 Posts
August 15 2013 18:54 GMT
#738
Selling new EG roster for $100 or 5,000 wongs.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
August 15 2013 18:54 GMT
#739
On August 16 2013 03:54 Spit-wad wrote:
Selling new EG roster for $100 or 5,000 wongs.

Fear
Fear
Fear
Fear
Fear

pls, its too obvious
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 18:57:55
August 15 2013 18:55 GMT
#740
On August 16 2013 03:47 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:26 Caladbolg wrote:
On August 16 2013 03:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 16 2013 01:37 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
On August 16 2013 01:32 TanGeng wrote:
On August 16 2013 00:58 Liquid`BuLba wrote:
yao told me that xiao8 doesnt have the motivation to continue playing. he also told me sylar wants to play mid and burning might join and play 1.


Bulba, Get in here and tell me exactly what Yao said!!!! This doesn't play well with other stuff that's publicly floating around. LGD is also a mad rumour mill. BurNing on LGD is really ambitious.

it was at lunch and asked yao if lgd will change. he said he is not sure whether xiao8 will continue. supposedly xiao8 got a lot of flame by the chinese community for his performance and picks. i asked him what will happen and he said he will probably go back to the 3 role and sylar might play mid or continue playing carry. i heard ig wants burning as well possibly but xiao8 was extremely depressed.

"He" means xiao8, I suppose? Or Yao?

BurNIng changing teams is the worst kind of thing that can happen to Chinese Dota at all.
His ambitions are understandable, but it is not like it's exclusively other DK members' fault they didn't reach TI3 Grand Finals.

Xiao8 was only good at the early of his dota career with his weaver

That's bullshit.


Why? So he has to stay in DK or else? Honestly, Chinese reshuffles have a way of bringing out the best in some people, and creating absolutely dominant teams like EHOME 2010. If what the Chinese stars need are changes of scenery (like, maybe xiao8 could go to iG and replace Chuan, while Chuan goes carry for DK? Who knows, really?), then it's all well and good!

China needs that juggernaut team much like Na'vi (for CIS), Alliance (for SWE), and Orange (for Malaysia) to get back in the mix for contenders in TI4. They also need to start traveling more often and playing in the Dreamhacks of the world.

I don't believe in wonders. It has to be considered xiao8 and BurNing are the captains of their respective teams, and have more than professional bounds with team members and It's not like the teams they lead have been doing piss-poorly all year either.

It's too damn early to speak about TI4, but every team you mentioned is beatable for top Chinese teams without any roster changes. It's the level of preparation that matters.


Maybe 1 year ago, during and post-TI2, I'd have agreed with you. But watching Dota 2 for the past year has convinced me that the non-Chinese scene has caught up in most aspects except maybe mechanical/lane skill. And in other aspects, such as strategy and teamwork, I believe that Na'vi and Alliance have pulled ahead.

I'd love it if all the major Chinese teams stuck together and began playing better, but the fact of the matter is the Chinese teams minus Tongfu and maybe DK have stagnated, whether it be because of internal strife, complacency (hard to believe) or just underexposure to tournaments. SOMETHING has to shake them up and make them undergo that "level of preparation" you're saying. Burning I think was talking about practicing for 12 (?) hours a day. How the hell were they underprepared in that case?!? I'm sure they studied replays, discussed strategy, tested it out, etc.. The long and short of it is, either the Chinese are really far behind the meta (and I don't believe the gap is that big), or that the rest of the world has caught up to their skill. That calls for some kind of shake-up and reassessment of how to move forward, and I personally think that it requires shuffling, if not of players, at least of ideas.

Now, you're right in that xiao8 and Burning are captains, but even if they were best friends with their teammates, they'd know as competitors when their current team has plateaued and accomplished as much as they've accomplished (I believe this applies more to LGD), and they'll recognize the writing on the wall. For Director 8, maybe it's time to go? Maybe it's time to take a break? For Burning, maybe it's time to try a new team, a new environment? Hopefully somewhere he won't rant about the meager pay/labor conditions.

On August 16 2013 03:53 TheYango wrote:
Honestly the likelihood of Burning leaving DK for another team is very unlikely. This iteration of DK and the last one were virtually built around Burning (DK from early 2011 with Burning PIS KingJ ks Gx had really shitty results, so they basically scrapped the other 4 to build a lineup around Burning). Burning has said quite a few times how good the DK management is to him and I believe he was once quoted as saying that it would be the last team for him before he retires (as in, the management is so good to him that he would feel bad leaving them for another team).

Honestly, even if Burning doesn't want to play with his teammates, I'd say DK dropping the other 4 and making a new lineup around Burning would be more likely than them letting Burning leave.


Burning, Super, Chuan, Rotk, Dai? Plz plz plz.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
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