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On August 16 2013 01:37 Liquid`BuLba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 01:32 TanGeng wrote:On August 16 2013 00:58 Liquid`BuLba wrote: yao told me that xiao8 doesnt have the motivation to continue playing. he also told me sylar wants to play mid and burning might join and play 1. Bulba, Get in here and tell me exactly what Yao said!!!! This doesn't play well with other stuff that's publicly floating around. LGD is also a mad rumour mill. BurNing on LGD is really ambitious. it was at lunch and asked yao if lgd will change. he said he is not sure whether xiao8 will continue. supposedly xiao8 got a lot of flame by the chinese community for his performance and picks. i asked him what will happen and he said he will probably go back to the 3 role and sylar might play mid or continue playing carry. i heard ig wants burning as well possibly but xiao8 was extremely depressed.
yikes, chinese netizens be harsh
also does anyone know who runs the dotaleaks twitter account?
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On August 16 2013 01:51 Klonere wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 01:37 Liquid`BuLba wrote:On August 16 2013 01:32 TanGeng wrote:On August 16 2013 00:58 Liquid`BuLba wrote: yao told me that xiao8 doesnt have the motivation to continue playing. he also told me sylar wants to play mid and burning might join and play 1. Bulba, Get in here and tell me exactly what Yao said!!!! This doesn't play well with other stuff that's publicly floating around. LGD is also a mad rumour mill. BurNing on LGD is really ambitious. it was at lunch and asked yao if lgd will change. he said he is not sure whether xiao8 will continue. supposedly xiao8 got a lot of flame by the chinese community for his performance and picks. i asked him what will happen and he said he will probably go back to the 3 role and sylar might play mid or continue playing carry. i heard ig wants burning as well possibly but xiao8 was extremely depressed. yikes, chinese netizens be harsh also does anyone know who runs the dotaleaks twitter account?
Slahser/Icefrog/Bruno
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Damn feel sorry for Xaio8. One of the few Chinese players who have connected with the western audience. Really hope for the best in him in what he does next.
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On August 16 2013 01:00 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 00:58 IPA wrote:It surprises me for the amount of money TI3 offered (life changing money), there isn't more of a "mercenary" element in Chinese Dota. I understand loyalty but surely if you took the best 1-5 positions from IG, Orange, DK, etc., you'd have a team that could compete with (if not outright dominate) Alliance or Na`Vi? It wasn't a piddling $10k MLG tournament. It's a self-sustaining level of cash. Just interesting to me. Looking forward to seeing what develops.  Thats what iG was supposed to be (and kinda was last year). Although I'll admit they took like 5 famous 1-3 position players and made 2 of them learn support.
Oh no. It was more than that. iG was originally: zhou, Ferrari_430, Sansheng, xiao8, ddc, YYF, 830, Chuan, ch~ and BeNz, organized into two teams. From that, there was some reshuffling - xiao8 and ddc out, Faith and Awoke in - and then they basically picked the five players they liked most. The result was a team of one pure carry player, one hybrid mid/carry, one pure mid and one mid/carry/offlaner with a supporter. Basically 1-support-4. On the other hand they had arguably the brightest remaining lights from the greatest era of Chinese dota.
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On August 16 2013 01:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 01:41 NbSky wrote:On August 16 2013 00:47 ch33psh33p wrote:On August 16 2013 00:35 StarStruck wrote: I'm not surprised with the huge shake-ups in the Asian scene. Ofc everyone was expecting EG to do that. I think it's very hard to find the right balance when it comes to the NA scene. Sure we have some good players, but in order to make a dream team out of them and find that chemistry like the other regions? Pretty fucking hard if you ask me. You could replace A and B with C and D & the results would still be the same in terms of what they accomplish. Marketing them on the other hand... a little bit different. Until we find a way to clone Fear, the NA scene will always be in turmoil. This. EG just needs to abduct 5 children that fear can imprint on for the next 10 years. #RoadtoTI14 and all that what is it with NA and Fear that you guys are so hyped about?
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I hope navi doesn't change, they nearly won, not sure it warrant a shuffle I hope all rumors are rumors and they'll stay together. It's sad that netizens put the blame on xiao8, it was more of a collective failure and he's drafting what he can, ie what the few games LGD played this year allowed him to draft.
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Well, there are a lot of people who live in NA on TL. And we'd like our "home teams" to do well. And Fear is one of the relatively few truly world-class NA players.
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man if Burning leaves DK the team's pretty much done. Dai and 357 will probably retire if that happens since they're like 28 and i doubt they can start again with new people... Super and rotk would have to build a new team.. unless someone poaches Super as well which is pretty likely, right now he's the best performing mid player in China. If Burning does leave DK, i only hope he goes to iG and replaces Zhou. I don't see him fit in LGD and Zhou has been pretty off for a long time.
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On August 16 2013 02:01 Spriki wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 01:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:On August 16 2013 01:41 NbSky wrote:On August 16 2013 00:47 ch33psh33p wrote:On August 16 2013 00:35 StarStruck wrote: I'm not surprised with the huge shake-ups in the Asian scene. Ofc everyone was expecting EG to do that. I think it's very hard to find the right balance when it comes to the NA scene. Sure we have some good players, but in order to make a dream team out of them and find that chemistry like the other regions? Pretty fucking hard if you ask me. You could replace A and B with C and D & the results would still be the same in terms of what they accomplish. Marketing them on the other hand... a little bit different. Until we find a way to clone Fear, the NA scene will always be in turmoil. This. EG just needs to abduct 5 children that fear can imprint on for the next 10 years. #RoadtoTI14 and all that what is it with NA and Fear that you guys are so hyped about?
Fear is the only world-class NA player we've probably ever seen?
He has the respect of every pro player in the scene. You ask them whose the best player NA? 99% of the time I guarantee you the answer they give is old man Fear.
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This reshuffle is simultaneously exciting to hear about and kind of scary too. Hope Burning doesn't leave DK, I'm too in love with the Burning+Super combo. D:
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i wanna see what lanm does as well. that guys a beast
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I really hope BurNIng goes to iG. Him and YYF are my favourite players and seeing them on one team... geez!
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On August 16 2013 02:01 Spriki wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 01:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:On August 16 2013 01:41 NbSky wrote:On August 16 2013 00:47 ch33psh33p wrote:On August 16 2013 00:35 StarStruck wrote: I'm not surprised with the huge shake-ups in the Asian scene. Ofc everyone was expecting EG to do that. I think it's very hard to find the right balance when it comes to the NA scene. Sure we have some good players, but in order to make a dream team out of them and find that chemistry like the other regions? Pretty fucking hard if you ask me. You could replace A and B with C and D & the results would still be the same in terms of what they accomplish. Marketing them on the other hand... a little bit different. Until we find a way to clone Fear, the NA scene will always be in turmoil. This. EG just needs to abduct 5 children that fear can imprint on for the next 10 years. #RoadtoTI14 and all that what is it with NA and Fear that you guys are so hyped about? fear is probably the best western player
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The SEA teams probably won't change their roster, except for maybe MUFC. Orange and Zenith are pretty solid right now. Mushi seems to be back to his top form again. I just hope the same applies to Yamateh 
If they does reshuffle though, I'd want the old Nirvana.my back. Their game vs Starsboba in WCG was one of, if not the best game of Dota 1 I've ever watched
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On August 16 2013 01:37 Liquid`BuLba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 01:32 TanGeng wrote:On August 16 2013 00:58 Liquid`BuLba wrote: yao told me that xiao8 doesnt have the motivation to continue playing. he also told me sylar wants to play mid and burning might join and play 1. Bulba, Get in here and tell me exactly what Yao said!!!! This doesn't play well with other stuff that's publicly floating around. LGD is also a mad rumour mill. BurNing on LGD is really ambitious. it was at lunch and asked yao if lgd will change. he said he is not sure whether xiao8 will continue. supposedly xiao8 got a lot of flame by the chinese community for his performance and picks. i asked him what will happen and he said he will probably go back to the 3 role and sylar might play mid or continue playing carry. i heard ig wants burning as well possibly but xiao8 was extremely depressed.
So if I understand you correctly he said this to you and not to the entire internet?
Will Team Liquid stay the same?
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On August 16 2013 02:28 quannguyen wrote:The SEA teams probably won't change their roster, except for maybe MUFC. Orange and Zenith are pretty solid right now. Mushi seems to be back to his top form again. I just hope the same applies to Yamateh  If they does reshuffle though, I'd want the old Nirvana.my back. Their game vs Starsboba in WCG was one of, if not the best game of Dota 1 I've ever watched 
Nv.my against EHOME at ESTC. Mushi's Puck that game was so so good.
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On August 16 2013 02:26 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 02:01 Spriki wrote:On August 16 2013 01:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:On August 16 2013 01:41 NbSky wrote:On August 16 2013 00:47 ch33psh33p wrote:On August 16 2013 00:35 StarStruck wrote: I'm not surprised with the huge shake-ups in the Asian scene. Ofc everyone was expecting EG to do that. I think it's very hard to find the right balance when it comes to the NA scene. Sure we have some good players, but in order to make a dream team out of them and find that chemistry like the other regions? Pretty fucking hard if you ask me. You could replace A and B with C and D & the results would still be the same in terms of what they accomplish. Marketing them on the other hand... a little bit different. Until we find a way to clone Fear, the NA scene will always be in turmoil. This. EG just needs to abduct 5 children that fear can imprint on for the next 10 years. #RoadtoTI14 and all that what is it with NA and Fear that you guys are so hyped about? fear is probably the best western player ok guys no one's allowed anymore shrooms
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On August 16 2013 02:39 spacer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 02:26 Erasme wrote:On August 16 2013 02:01 Spriki wrote:On August 16 2013 01:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:On August 16 2013 01:41 NbSky wrote:On August 16 2013 00:47 ch33psh33p wrote:On August 16 2013 00:35 StarStruck wrote: I'm not surprised with the huge shake-ups in the Asian scene. Ofc everyone was expecting EG to do that. I think it's very hard to find the right balance when it comes to the NA scene. Sure we have some good players, but in order to make a dream team out of them and find that chemistry like the other regions? Pretty fucking hard if you ask me. You could replace A and B with C and D & the results would still be the same in terms of what they accomplish. Marketing them on the other hand... a little bit different. Until we find a way to clone Fear, the NA scene will always be in turmoil. This. EG just needs to abduct 5 children that fear can imprint on for the next 10 years. #RoadtoTI14 and all that what is it with NA and Fear that you guys are so hyped about? fear is probably the best western player ok guys no one's allowed anymore shrooms
no fear is at least top 3 best western players
seriously
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On August 16 2013 02:36 Supercilium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 01:37 Liquid`BuLba wrote:On August 16 2013 01:32 TanGeng wrote:On August 16 2013 00:58 Liquid`BuLba wrote: yao told me that xiao8 doesnt have the motivation to continue playing. he also told me sylar wants to play mid and burning might join and play 1. Bulba, Get in here and tell me exactly what Yao said!!!! This doesn't play well with other stuff that's publicly floating around. LGD is also a mad rumour mill. BurNing on LGD is really ambitious. it was at lunch and asked yao if lgd will change. he said he is not sure whether xiao8 will continue. supposedly xiao8 got a lot of flame by the chinese community for his performance and picks. i asked him what will happen and he said he will probably go back to the 3 role and sylar might play mid or continue playing carry. i heard ig wants burning as well possibly but xiao8 was extremely depressed. So if I understand you correctly he said this to you and not to the entire internet? Will Team Liquid stay the same?
Nazgul already mentioned that nothing is confirmed/sure and they are looking into things or something.
Interview here. Can't remember where he said about things. + Show Spoiler +
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On August 16 2013 00:58 Liquid`BuLba wrote: yao told me that xiao8 doesnt have the motivation to continue playing. he also told me sylar wants to play mid and burning might join and play 1. holy shit that's one hell of a dream team for me!
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