EPTOn September 04 2013 17:33 739 wrote:
DK last player gonna be someone from TongFu or RisingStars me thinks.
DK last player gonna be someone from TongFu or RisingStars me thinks.
Banana please and LaNm takes #3
The post-TI3 Roster Shuffle thread - Page 157
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renfree
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Asha
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heavenz
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On September 04 2013 17:14 Kuroeeah wrote: i like the way valve does it. the goal of the international is to find the best dota team in the world and i'm pretty sure that each tournament winner is unanimously the best team within their respective year. not necessarly. Due to the invite system some teams get invited because they did well last year but haven't accomplished anything this year, while new teams trained hard all year and got good can't compete because they aren't invited. That's why qualifier tournaments ensure that really the best are competing. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On September 04 2013 17:37 heavenz wrote: No, they do not. Qualifier tournaments ensure that a team which was playing well in 1 tournament is competing.not necessarly. Due to the invite system some teams get invited because they did well last year but haven't accomplished anything this year, while new teams trained hard all year and got good can't compete because they aren't invited. That's why qualifier tournaments ensure that really the best are competing. Look at where the teams that won the qualifiers both years ended up. The qualifier should be bigger, but the invites should never be dropped. The invites ensure that all other tournaments have a lot of significance in Dota. There is no team that 'trained hard all year' which didn't get a direct invite or a spot in the qualifier. In fact, there's no team which got good results other than KP that didn't get an invite, and KP wasn't invited because of roster changes. | ||
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Lodasrecedinhairline
United Kingdom165 Posts
On September 04 2013 17:41 teapoted wrote: No, they do not. Qualifier tournaments ensure that a team which was playing well in 1 tournament is competing. Look at where the teams that won the qualifiers both years ended up. The qualifier should be bigger, but the invites should never be dropped. The invites ensure that all other tournaments have a lot of significance in Dota. There is no team that 'trained hard all year' which didn't get a direct invite or a spot in the qualifier. In fact, there's no team which got good results other than KP that didn't get an invite, and KP wasn't invited because of roster changes. Exactly, the invite shouldn't be 14. May be only invite the top 8 or top 5. The qualifier however can be organized in separated seasons and use the point based system and let xxx teams with the highest points go to the International. SC2 is using this model and I think it's quite fair and transparent to the players and the fans. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On September 04 2013 18:01 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote: The WCS is a terrible system.Exactly, the invite shouldn't be 14. May be only invite the top 8 or top 5. The qualifier however can be organized in separated seasons and use the point based system and let xxx teams with the highest points go to the International. SC2 is using this model and I think it's quite fair and transparent to the players and the fans. Valve would never change the format to something which would compete against tournament organisers. And the WCS competes against tournament organisers. There's no way to have an all inclusive point system and making more valve events is also competing against other tournament organisers. Open the qualifiers from 2 to 4 slots. And make an open 'qualifier to the qualifier' so you don't end up in the KP situation again. That's enough. | ||
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Lodasrecedinhairline
United Kingdom165 Posts
On September 04 2013 18:09 teapoted wrote: The WCS is a terrible system. Valve would never change the format to something which would compete against tournament organisers. And the WCS competes against tournament organisers. There's no way to have an all inclusive point system and making more valve events is also competing against other tournament organisers. Open the qualifiers from 2 to 4 slots. And make an open 'qualifier to the qualifier' so you don't end up in the KP situation again. That's enough. It's not a terrible system. It's just that the tournament and system in Sc2 are already more organized that it's easy for Blizz to incorporate the point system into those tournaments. Don't forget that DH, MLG, IEM are all reward points as well as WCS. However, the point you made is quite reasonable considering the state of Dota2 tournaments at the moment. We have a lot of self-organized tournaments and it's a bad thing for Valve to destroy this aspect of Dota2. The problem I had with Valve's invite is not just about the transparency of the system but also the timing of the invite. Sure teams need to be prepared for TI but we've seen so many teams that got the invite and played horribly and did not accomplished anything at all after they got invited. The visa process only takes at most 2 months but the invites went out 4-5 months before TI. The timing could have been a bit later than that imo. And yeah at least makes more spot for qualifiers is a good idea. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
On September 04 2013 18:54 BurningSera wrote: At this stage if BurNing really is determined to fight for another year, I want Mushi in his team. NO MORE HIGH GROUND MAHJONG, OWN BIG OR GO HOME. DK new line up when??? The last player will be announced tonight =). With this lineup they can keep winning TI lol haha. | ||
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renfree
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On September 04 2013 18:54 BurningSera wrote: At this stage if BurNing really is determined to fight for another year, I want Mushi in his team. NO MORE HIGH GROUND MAHJONG, OWN BIG OR GO HOME. DK new line up when??? You are kinda slow. 4 players has already been announced and Mushi is one of them. BurNIng, Mushi, LaNm, X!! so far. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 04 2013 18:57 renfree wrote: You are kinda slow. 4 players has already been announced and Mushi is one of them. BurNIng, Mushi, LaNm, X!! so far. Just read this after i posted T_T On September 04 2013 15:16 RiZu wrote: Current DK confirmed roster: Dai Mushi Burning Lamn +1 player that DK wanted the most. However, he is still in a team and they had not released him. Currently they are in a nego with the team. http://dota2.replays.net/news/page/20130904/1849356.html HOORAY | ||
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cecek
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On September 04 2013 19:40 cecek wrote: So what's the new Dignitas roster again? I haven't seen any news. Korok Bdiz 1437 Inphinity Fogged | ||
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Grettin
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On September 04 2013 19:40 cecek wrote: So what's the new Dignitas roster again? I haven't seen any news. They are playing in the upcoming MLG with this roster: Dignitas Fogged Korok Inphinity 1437 Bdiz Peterpandam (Coach/Manager?) | ||
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any reliable source? oh... let's see what new Dignitas can show. So who is replacing Korok in Liquid? | ||
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Grettin
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http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1loeco/mlg_na_dota2_league_details_teams_and_schedule/cc17a18 MLGAdam. | ||
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On September 04 2013 19:41 Grettin wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1loeco/mlg_na_dota2_league_details_teams_and_schedule/cc17a18 MLGAdam. Thanks  | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On September 04 2013 19:41 739 wrote: any reliable source? oh... let's see what new Dignitas can show. So who is replacing Korok in Liquid? MLGAdam leaked it http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1loeco/mlg_na_dota2_league_details_teams_and_schedule/ | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
On September 04 2013 19:41 Grettin wrote: They are playing in the upcoming MLG with this roster: Dignitas Fogged Korok Inphinity 1437 Bdiz Peterpandam (Coach/Manager?) ppd is likely a typo, he belongs with the ex-CoL HoN guys right in the roster that was listed right below the Dignitas one. | ||
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