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On August 14 2013 03:03 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 02:56 1Dhalism wrote:On August 13 2013 15:22 DDie wrote:On August 13 2013 13:30 1Dhalism wrote:On August 13 2013 12:30 Kuroeeah wrote:
If Na'Vi were to split i would imagine Puppey and KKY will stick together whereas Dendi and Xboct will be the other pair.
i'd be shocked. U dont lead 3 different squads to TI finals by being a leader that people dont follow. Whatever xboct decides will be up to him, but i dont see Dendi splitting from Puppey. Puppey didn't lead navi on TI1, artstyle was the captain at the time. Also Dendi and Hvoss are pretty good friends, so yes, if there is indeed a crisis, there is a good chance that puppey and dendi go separate ways. Would be sad to see the breaking of the most iconic dota team ever, but since LoH left i had a feeling that the day would come, let's hope for the best. i would agree with the friendship thing if it was Puppey who was escalating. But if it's your friend making a stupid decision, you're gonna try to talk them out of it, but ultimately it's about making a living. Are we still speculating this based on some angry pictures of XBOCT and one message on an online website that was likely trolling, or has something new come out?
Well Na'vi's CEO said he will comment I think after he's spoken with XBOCT about it. Also, there's a new interview up with Dendi where he's pinning a bit of the blame on the language barrier/communication problem.
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On August 14 2013 02:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its a shame Fear wants to keep Jeyo on his team.
My other comment is that there are a lot of very good "Cores" in NA (Roles 1, 2, and 3), but really world class supports are not easy to find in NA.
I dunno. I felt that from their games at TI, Fogged and WTS were really the highlights of Dignitas, supporting like bawses. Universe and Sneyking didn't impress me at all.
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I didn't say that all the farming NA players were good, just that NA has a lot of good ones.
Universe is the real deal though as far as I'm concerned.
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This will be an interesting "off-season", but it will be an extremely short one for Chinese teams.
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On August 13 2013 22:54 Viruuus wrote:
Kuroky has made such sick plays, I have not seen anything like that from other supports. I dont know what mistakes he has made that XBOCT is refering to, but I feel like XBOCT himself is not the best player in the world. Yeah, that 1on4 in game5 at his tier1 was crazy good, but thats just one time where this stuff goes the right way and in the end he did not benefit at all from it
That's sadly, why exactly he is not a good support. He loves to show off, he loves the spotlight, he loves to farm, he cripples puppey's #4, he is a good player and all but he can play less than 5 heroes at top level (thus limiting puppey's drafting) and only when he got the gold/items - let me put it this way, nobody would be bad at playing a fat support, 1 or 2 'big plays' here and there and suddenly he is a 'godly support'. He played all these greedy style support which sacrificing something in the team to achieve (usually puppey's economy gets screwed or often lack of visions for the team/dendi or not helping xboct/dendi when he should etc).
Normal supports back up their team, they put the team before them, they make sure that their cores heroes get what they want AND THEN they can decide what items they want; kuroky did the opposite. And ya, i dont even know how the hell navi got this far with a team like that (yes it was because of puppey), how i wish if [A] didnt derp with their drafting of game2/3 and made a 3:0.
You wanna see real good support that these pro players dream to have, look no further than akke/egm. And i wonder why not many comments of 'OMFG sick support akke/egm', because, maybe that's the life of a good support, just like all the unsung heroes all the hardworking people who worked behind the stage of every other events out there, nobody gives a shit.
Goddamn i said i would cut kuroky some slack since he really did well for navi in Game3 (but take a sec and think about it, game was going evenly at about 30mins, he just did what he could and it was a common timing of a dagger, they won that half thanks to puppey and half thanks to [A]'s 'funny' line up).
+ Show Spoiler +And no i seriously i dont hate any player i just say whatever that's true.
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On August 14 2013 03:47 Jaeger wrote:
MSS to liquid
Wouldn't be surprising, though I'd say Liquid's cores are stronger than their supports.
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On August 14 2013 03:58 Comeh wrote:Wouldn't be surprising, though I'd say Liquid's cores are stronger than their supports.
Fluff is a beast bro
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On August 14 2013 03:38 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 22:54 Viruuus wrote:
Kuroky has made such sick plays, I have not seen anything like that from other supports. I dont know what mistakes he has made that XBOCT is refering to, but I feel like XBOCT himself is not the best player in the world. Yeah, that 1on4 in game5 at his tier1 was crazy good, but thats just one time where this stuff goes the right way and in the end he did not benefit at all from it That's sadly, why exactly he is not a good support. He loves to show off, he loves the spotlight, he loves to farm, he cripples puppey's #4, he is a good player and all but he can play less than 5 heroes at top level (thus limiting puppey's drafting) and only when he got the gold/items - let me put it this way, nobody would be bad at playing a fat support, 1 or 2 'big plays' here and there and suddenly he is a 'godly support'. He played all these greedy style support which sacrificing something in the team to achieve (usually puppey's economy gets screwed or often lack of visions for the team/dendi or not helping xboct/dendi when he should etc). Normal supports back up their team, they put the team before them, they make sure that their cores heroes get what they want AND THEN they can decide what items they want; kuroky did the opposite. And ya, i dont even know how the hell navi got this far with a team like that (yes it was because of puppey), how i wish if [A] didnt derp with their drafting of game2/3 and made a 3:0. You wanna see real good support that these pro players dream to have, look no further than akke/egm. And i wonder why not many comments of 'OMFG sick support akke/egm', because, maybe that's the life of a good support, just like all the unsung heroes all the hardworking people who worked behind the stage of every other events out there, nobody gives a shit. Goddamn i said i would cut kuroky some slack since he really did well for navi in Game3 (but take a sec and think about it, game was going evenly at about 30mins, he just did what he could and it was a common timing of a dagger, they won that half thanks to puppey and half thanks to [A]'s 'funny' line up). + Show Spoiler +And no i seriously i dont hate any player i just say whatever that's true.
Akke and EGM both play farm heavy supports.... They play exactly like kky.
Edit: They prioritize farm and levels on supports more than almost any team, and its why they won ti3.
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I find it funny that we are 12 pages in and there has yet to be a confirmed move made by a team or player that competed in TI3.
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Well I just got out of my TI coma, can't imagine what players are feeling like.
It will take a couple of weeks.
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On August 14 2013 04:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
I find it funny that we are 12 pages in and there has yet to be a confirmed move made by a team or player that competed in TI3.
All of it is bullshit speculation based on almost nothing.
It'll probably be at least a week after the final game before we hear any movements.
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On August 14 2013 04:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
I find it funny that we are 12 pages in and there has yet to be a confirmed move made by a team or player that competed in TI3.
It's obviously just a speculation thread... these shuffles will be happening for some months to come.
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On August 13 2013 22:34 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 22:18 WindWolf wrote:
I would be surprised if Fnatic changed anything n0tail did say in this interview here that some of them have real life commitments and haven't decided yet whether or not they wanted to continue playing. I do wonder though whether some of them may want to give a go at playing with a different set of players. It's not that there's any conflict whatsoever, I just feel that as a player, you want to seek out the best teammates and you can't do that if you stay with the same players for a long time.
If real life commitment is a problem for them, I can understand why they would change players. But to me, they seems to work really well as a team, some of their coordination during TI3 was pretty good
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a team is only 5 players? I thought they'd have like at least 1 more for bench
how the hell do they practice?? playing with other teams? that's weirds because then the other team would know all your stuff
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On August 14 2013 04:19 JP Dayne wrote:
a team is only 5 players? I thought they'd have like at least 1 more for bench
how the hell do they practice?? playing with other teams? that's weirds because then the other team would know all your stuff
But you know their stuff too? It works both ways
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On August 14 2013 04:09 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 04:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
I find it funny that we are 12 pages in and there has yet to be a confirmed move made by a team or player that competed in TI3. All of it is bullshit speculation based on almost nothing. It'll probably be at least a week after the final game before we hear any movements.
everyone that counts is still in Seattle really. In Seattle and really hungover as well.
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On August 14 2013 04:22 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 04:19 JP Dayne wrote:
a team is only 5 players? I thought they'd have like at least 1 more for bench
how the hell do they practice?? playing with other teams? that's weirds because then the other team would know all your stuff But you know their stuff too? It works both ways
still really weird, tho
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Liquid should just pick up Kaipi. EE really fits in with the mannerism of TL and posts here
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On August 14 2013 04:38 hyptonic wrote:
Liquid should just pick up Kaipi. EE really fits in with the mannerism of TL and posts here
hed fit pretty well into anime discussion thread
and blogs
ees legit though, once we get KP tags for signatures im gonna be reppin that #roadtoti4
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