6.79 Changelog - Page 70

gingerfluffmuff

Austria4570 Posts

October 21 2013 08:32 GMT

#1381

On October 21 2013 08:41 Plansix wrote:

You will still try and push down towers and kill the Throne. The game is just less about supports afk farming and more about ruining lives.

And thats what e-sport team games are all about :D.

OT: I am excited to see the no-consumable-items-feeding-policy in action.

ZerG~LegenD

Sweden1179 Posts

October 21 2013 11:14 GMT

#1382

While the undocumented Exorcism spirit count buff was fixed, another Exorcism bug was found in both the main client and the test client. Apparently you'd never get all 27 spirits when everything was maxed. Most of the time you'd get 22 or 23, occasionally 24. This has been fixed in the latest test client build.

Nocticate

Vatican City State2902 Posts

October 21 2013 12:01 GMT

#1383

On October 21 2013 20:14 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
While the undocumented Exorcism spirit count buff was fixed, another Exorcism bug was found in both the main client and the test client. Apparently you'd never get all 27 spirits when everything was maxed. Most of the time you'd get 22 or 23, occasionally 24. This has been fixed in the latest test client build.

might have been why DP felt so weak.
feels almost like the Spectre bugs (obviously not quite that level) from way back when. you'd think someone would notice it.

XiaoJoyce-

China2908 Posts

October 21 2013 12:11 GMT

#1384

On October 18 2013 05:54 Daralii wrote:

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On October 18 2013 05:52 Spekulatius wrote:

On October 18 2013 05:44 lagmaster wrote:
Crazy patch. I have a couple questions though.

Lich
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- Frost Armor has half effect against ranged heroes
- Frost Armor slow now stacks with the slow from Frost Nova
- Sacrifice cooldown increased from 35/30/25/20 to 44/36/28/20
- Sacrifice mana gain increased from 15/30/45/60% to 25/40/55/70%
- Sacrifice no longer denies enemy XP
- Sacrifice now converts your own creep for XP (shared in AoE as normal creep xp bounty)

Am I reading this right? Sacrificing one of your creeps gives you exp? If an enemy is nearby you both get the exp? Do you and an enemy hero split the exp from the sacrificed creep or do you both get the full value? It sounds like lich will be an even better mid/offlane hero. You just need to step back for a moment to sacrifice a creep before it gets into xp range of the enemy. Assuming you sacrifice a creep every 45 seconds (out of range for their exp), you'll have two full waves of creep exp over your opponent by the 6 minute mark.

* Evasion now stacks diminishingly

Does this stack in the same manner as vangaurd? Meaning that the effective damage block from 2 vang would bring your proc chance up to 90% from 70% (using old stats). How much evasion would you get from two butterflies as opposed to one? How much evasion would a pa with 6 butterflies have?

Phantom Assassin
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- Stifling Dagger shares the same crit chance/factor as Coup de Grace
- Stifling Dagger is now dodgeable
- Stifling Dagger damage rescaled from 50/100/150/200 to 60/100/140/180

A level 16 pa's dagger can crit for 810 pure damage?

I started playing meepo quite a bit and have become pretty confident with him. The removal of the 30% stat sharing is a shame, but a 2nd meepo at level 4 seems pretty big. I'm thinking I would use my 2nd meepo to stack jungle camps, But a good rune or a smoke with some stunner allies could definitely get some early kills. Solo mid meepo looks much more powerful.

I would say the biggest winners from this patch are (in no real order): Broodmother, Lich, Bloodseeker and Meepo.

Biggest losers are: Alchemist, Furion and Visage. All the junglers will be sad at the reduced gold, but Furion was the only one with a straight nerf.

on creeps yes. on heroes it's half iirc, so not that op.

Yeah, it only crits for 400 pure damage against heroes.

400 pure dmg is stronger than dagon, with 3 sec slow.

catabowl

United States815 Posts

October 21 2013 14:42 GMT

#1385

I love the Disruptor Buff with Aggy. You need something to counter those BKB builds and Disruptor now does that perfectly.

Gentso

United States2218 Posts

October 21 2013 14:54 GMT

#1386

I feel like I'll be building Vanguard on carry heroes now in pubs. I actually got tranquil quite a lot just because of the extra harass in pubs, and if dual lanes become more popular than I'll probably start with stout shield. I plan on playing Vanguard Phantom Assassin and just shooting daggers for crits before engaging. : )

Comeh

United States18919 Posts

October 21 2013 15:04 GMT

#1387

On October 21 2013 23:54 Gentso wrote:
I feel like I'll be building Vanguard on carry heroes now in pubs. I actually got tranquil quite a lot just because of the extra harass in pubs, and if dual lanes become more popular than I'll probably start with stout shield. I plan on playing Vanguard Phantom Assassin and just shooting daggers for crits before engaging. : )

I think if anything, it just means heroes that were reliant on tranquils will see less play.

PA is legit though.

SeakayKu

United States128 Posts

October 21 2013 15:12 GMT

#1388

Rods of Atos has amazing cast range
It is a very good item for nukers and roamers
I find Vengeful Spirit with tranquil, dagger, into atos very very strong

lprk

Poland2249 Posts

October 21 2013 15:24 GMT

#1389

On October 22 2013 00:12 SeakayKu wrote:
Rods of Atos has amazing cast range
It is a very good item for nukers and roamers
I find Vengeful Spirit with tranquil, dagger, into atos very very strong

The problem with RoA is price range, it's often too expensive for supoorts and too cheap for cores, in this price range item must be somwhow op like armlet or shadow blade to be popular.

tauon

Australia1278 Posts

October 21 2013 15:37 GMT

#1390

On October 22 2013 00:24 lprk wrote:

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The problem with RoA is price range, it's often too expensive for supoorts and too cheap for cores, in this price range item must be somwhow op like armlet or shadow blade to be popular.

It used to be popular on heroes who were pooled regen and got wraith band first into bas ring (eg. morphling). Not sure when it will be built anymore :S

SKC

Brazil18828 Posts

October 21 2013 15:42 GMT

#1391

On October 22 2013 00:37 tauon wrote:

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It used to be popular on heroes who were pooled regen and got wraith band first into bas ring (eg. morphling). Not sure when it will be built anymore :S

Rod of Atos?

I assume you are talking about Aquila?

Xxazn4lyfe51xX

United States976 Posts

October 21 2013 15:43 GMT

#1392

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but now that I think about it a bit, doesn't this patch slow down any non-converting jungler quite a bit? Most of these junglers will try to clear the easy camp at 30, and then again at 60. With the swap of the easy and the medium pull camps, not only does this mean that your easy camp is likely to get warded for the 30s spawn unless you move quickly to defend it, but also the enemy offlaners have much easier access to leech xp off the easy camp while the jungler is clearing it.

This essentially means that most junglers will now have to start with and likely rotate between medium camps or hard camps. This doesn't change things for junglers like chen, enchant or enigma, but heroes like NP, (who after clearing the first hard camp can no longer take his leftover treants to the easy camp), ursa, and the like have a much slower start and progression.

JackDragon

525 Posts

October 21 2013 15:44 GMT

#1393

On October 22 2013 00:37 tauon wrote:

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It used to be popular on heroes who were pooled regen and got wraith band first into bas ring (eg. morphling). Not sure when it will be built anymore :S

Eh? I have never seen RoA on Morphling. The only ones I have seen it on is farmed supports, OD and Silencer.

PHOTONS

15 Posts

October 21 2013 15:54 GMT

#1394

Big "game changing" patches like this are meant to increase the sale of in game tickets and subsequently aid the tournament scene in terms of non ticket purchased viewership (ala twitch.tv).

Shake everything up, shift the meta curve, casuals and less skilled players look towards the professional scene for guidance on how to adapt and play in the new meta.

>Damn I just learned how to jungle now this changes everything, better see what puppey is doing and try to emulate his play

etc...

It's good, keeps things fresh and exciting.

Would you prefer: TOP, MID, JUNGLE, SUPPORT, AD CARRY for x -> ∞ ? Me neither

Also by making less played heroes more powerful, you increase the number of people likely to play them, which in turn would likely increase the number of people who could buy cosmetic items for those heroes.

Mike Ambinder is being put to good use.

c1neK

Poland41 Posts

October 21 2013 16:46 GMT

#1395

Made small test with jungling Doom. Did any one tried this on other heroes?

http://i.imgur.com/skj7qC3.jpg 6.78

http://i.imgur.com/5IvGqQu.jpg 6.79

abaut 30 sec difference and 1/2 of lvl but 6.79 felt a lot better (in both cases i found troll summoners early) i was never below critical amount of hp and it felt like i had a lot more vision due to places i had to farm.

tjuggx

114 Posts

October 21 2013 16:53 GMT

#1396

6.79 just went live on normal client ?

govie

9334 Posts

October 21 2013 16:54 GMT

#1397

`Next match on Tobis stream is first promatch with 6.79... go watch it peeps.