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Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
October 19 2013 11:43 GMT
#1221
I want to ask
If riki uses blink strike and then cancelling the attack animation
will he inflict bonus damage from blink strike ?
If he can do it, well, stealth ninjakill new meta
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 11:48:16
October 19 2013 11:47 GMT
#1222
On October 19 2013 20:32 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 20:05 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 19 2013 20:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
If evasion stacks does that mean Void's dodge chance stacks with butterfly? Does that make it worth getting Butterfly on Void now?


I always thought that Voids dodge wasn't considered actual evasion so it always did stack. Maybe that was just in WC3 or something but I thought you took the damage but it got backtracked instantly you didn't just dodge it per say.

Bruno tested PA and Void with a bunch of butterflies and its pretty fucking dumb lol. With 5 or 6 bflies they could tank the fountain forever and even multiple fountains attacking at the same time. 3 bflies on void and he'd lose health but it was still super strong.

I really don't know if any of these scenarios will ever come up though unless its the harshest of pubstomps lol

Yeah, Backtrack is counted separate from evasion because, mechanically speaking, he still takes the damage but heals it instantly.

I wonder how common Halberd + Butterfly will be on carries now.


Would be interesting to see. Not sure that the halberd evasion is "enough" to really care enough to pick up but I guess it makes more sense than just getting an inventory of butterflies. Would be kind of neat to see carries picking up more of a utility item though. I'm curious to see just how all this pans out. While I appreciate the game getting pushed more and more to promote fighting and killing I hope all the tricks and mind fuckery of pulling, contesting, pull blocking, etc don't go away entirely.

On October 19 2013 20:43 Snakesneaks wrote:
I want to ask
If riki uses blink strike and then cancelling the attack animation
will he inflict bonus damage from blink strike ?
If he can do it, well, stealth ninjakill new meta


Just get a dagon, it totally works lol.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 19 2013 11:50 GMT
#1223
I totally forgot about the halberd evasion!
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 19 2013 11:52 GMT
#1224
Should Treant Protector now be maxing W instead of E or is Living Armor just overall still good early game?
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
October 19 2013 11:54 GMT
#1225
PA with butterfly now would have 61% evasion, with an additional halberd it would be 70,75% according to my math.
But how this stackgin effectively works with pseudo-RNG. If the pseudo-RNG is good, it should not matter in the end though.
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
October 19 2013 12:31 GMT
#1226
On October 19 2013 20:43 Snakesneaks wrote:
I want to ask
If riki uses blink strike and then cancelling the attack animation
will he inflict bonus damage from blink strike ?
If he can do it, well, stealth ninjakill new meta


Nope it was specifically noted, Riki blink cancel invi
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Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
October 19 2013 12:36 GMT
#1227
On October 19 2013 21:31 Gheizen64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 20:43 Snakesneaks wrote:
I want to ask
If riki uses blink strike and then cancelling the attack animation
will he inflict bonus damage from blink strike ?
If he can do it, well, stealth ninjakill new meta


Nope it was specifically noted, Riki blink cancel invi


It says that the attack will reveal invi
But if the bonus damage is dealt before the attack starts, he can kill enemy in invis without buying any item
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
October 19 2013 13:27 GMT
#1228
The easy camp being on the pull spot will probably make it possible for an Alchemist to farm really fast now if he has a support who is kind enough to just stack it a few times til alch get enough points in acid. Maybe not useful in higher level pubs, but for low level pubs where they might not pick up on what's going on, it could probably increase his farm rate by quite abit.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
October 19 2013 13:41 GMT
#1229
On October 19 2013 22:27 BigO wrote:
The easy camp being on the pull spot will probably make it possible for an Alchemist to farm really fast now if he has a support who is kind enough to just stack it a few times til alch get enough points in acid. Maybe not useful in higher level pubs, but for low level pubs where they might not pick up on what's going on, it could probably increase his farm rate by quite abit.

It's really hard to stack some camps.
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Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
October 19 2013 13:53 GMT
#1230
Big nerf on AA with night vision
I may be of thome athithtanthe if there ith a thudden crithith!
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
October 19 2013 13:54 GMT
#1231
BTW

Is this supposed to be a joke that Gyrocopter isnt nerfed? Like, what the fuck?
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
October 19 2013 14:52 GMT
#1232
On October 19 2013 22:54 Fatalize wrote:
BTW

Is this supposed to be a joke that Gyrocopter isnt nerfed? Like, what the fuck?


I'd like to see a slight nerf to Barrage but otherwise I think he's in a fine position.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 19 2013 14:52 GMT
#1233
Gyro really isn't OP at all right now.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 19 2013 15:00 GMT
#1234
With Hex's new change, does that mean I should max hex first instead?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
October 19 2013 15:03 GMT
#1235
Only real problem i see is bloodseeker. But they will fix that i guess
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Sisaroth
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium591 Posts
October 19 2013 15:04 GMT
#1236
Broodmother most interesting change. Second most interesting change is that this isn't posted on PD. This means Dota 1 is done? Some of these changes (mainly venge and pudge and slark) seem pretty hard if not impossible to implement in D1.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 19 2013 15:06 GMT
#1237
On October 20 2013 00:04 Sisaroth wrote:
Broodmother most interesting change. Second most interesting change is that this isn't posted on PD. This means Dota 1 is done? Some of these changes (mainly venge and pudge and slark) seem pretty hard if not impossible to implement in D1.


He said DotA All-Stars will continue to be updated.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
October 19 2013 15:07 GMT
#1238
On October 19 2013 20:47 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 20:43 Snakesneaks wrote:
I want to ask
If riki uses blink strike and then cancelling the attack animation
will he inflict bonus damage from blink strike ?
If he can do it, well, stealth ninjakill new meta


Just get a dagon, it totally works lol.


Treant + riki double stealth dagon new meta
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
October 19 2013 15:07 GMT
#1239
Well you have traded the hex duration for cool down. I would say no since you, in my opinion rather take longer stuns and more dmg to shorter cooldown. especially since mana can be a problem early game. But i guess it depends on the game.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
October 19 2013 15:10 GMT
#1240
On October 20 2013 00:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
With Hex's new change, does that mean I should max hex first instead?

I personally would still max Earth Spike since it's AoE and does damage. An early point in Hex is vital now though, even if you're going Mana Drain Lion for some weird reason.
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