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6.79 Changelog - Page 47
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govie
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toemn
Germany915 Posts
Also lots of new things that are similiar to League mechanics: - Axe new ult, gold for dewarding, longer ward time, lower movespeed boots, 2-1-1 + jungle or 2-1-2 new meta, no trilanes Big buffs to forgotten heroes like Death Prophet, Brood, Meepo, WD, Disruptor, NS, Brew. This will set the new meta for atleast a year. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On October 18 2013 17:04 toemn wrote: - Axe new ult, gold for dewarding, longer ward time, lower movespeed boots, 2-1-1 + jungle or 2-1-2 new meta, no trilanes How is any of the bolded related to league of legends? lmfao. Boot movespeed has been changed in dota since before LoL. Lanes in dota have been 2-1-1, 2-1-2 and so on far before LoL too and trilanes aren't dead just not as dominant, you can still trilane with these changes. | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2768 Posts
I guess lvl 4 meepo could be pretty strong tho, stack jungle while laning with main, send main back to heal if necessary while laning with clone, poof back (possibly with a salve) and clear jungle, tp to base and poof back again. Like 0 downtime from lane. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
They made offlane so much easier. Ahhh and the Darius... Oh sorry, the Axe. Actually I didn't even bother to read the rest. Still no ranking system, still no ladder. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10877 Posts
- Riki is no longer revealed out of Permanent Invisibility when he casts spells or uses items Dagon-Riki just got legit (  ) | ||
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edlover420
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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saddaromma
1129 Posts
On October 18 2013 17:38 Velr wrote: People talking about Bloodseeker in Pubs seem to forget one thing: - Riki is no longer revealed out of Permanent Invisibility when he casts spells or uses items Dagon-Riki just got legit ( )Plus Eul's Scepter and Forcestuff :D | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On October 18 2013 17:41 edlover420 wrote: Can someone please link me some VODS to high level patch analysis... lumi/fluff twitch | ||
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Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
On October 18 2013 16:54 trinxified wrote: There's a difference though. There hasn't been a patch crazier than this. there have been patches crazier than this. Icey decided the game needed a revamp so it happened like it does every few years. | ||
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Fik-cz
Czech Republic43 Posts
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laserlaser
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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
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Elgar
United States231 Posts
On October 18 2013 17:26 Pr0wler wrote: The Roshan change is mind boggling... How can we keep the timing on roshan now ? Where the precise planing and strategizing went ? Just imagine... Your team wins a team fight and its about time for roshan, kinda. He can spawn now, or after 3 minutes when everyone is back. They made offlane so much easier. Ahhh and the Darius... Oh sorry, the Axe. Actually I didn't even bother to read the rest. Still no ranking system, still no ladder. Isn't that the point? With the current system and how it is, everyone had the timing down perfectly. You know when he's going to respawn and everyone just crowds around, afraid to take a fight because they don't want to wipe with Roshan coming up soon. This became a stalemate for 2 minutes, with people just sitting there waiting for the other team to make a move. The new Roshan respawn adds some degree of randomness to it. There is a 3 minute window that he can respawn and that is a lot of time. By not knowing when he's going to appear exactly, you can't just sit around and do nothing anymore. If you want to sit there and wait for him to come back, you sacrifice potentially 3 minutes that you can be farming/pushing, as well as 3 minutes that the other team could be pushing on your tower/base. Do you really have the time to spare waiting around while the other team is out and destroying your base? When do you risk taking a team fight? Do I have a big enough lead or am I down significantly enough that it's worth sitting around for potentially 3 minutes doing nothing? It's a gamble on both sides with the consequences being significant at both extremes. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
TBH I think the uncapped movement speed is one of the lesser important changes for bs (this abbreviation is now more justified than ever though). Global range, 50% health treshold, but no more vision around the target. Brew Aghs change feels like a nerf to me? | ||
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:01 Elgar wrote: Isn't that the point? With the current system and how it is, everyone had the timing down perfectly. You know when he's going to respawn and everyone just crowds around, afraid to take a fight because they don't want to wipe with Roshan coming up soon. This became a stalemate for 2 minutes, with people just sitting there waiting for the other team to make a move. The new Roshan respawn adds some degree of randomness to it. There is a 3 minute window that he can respawn and that is a lot of time. By not knowing when he's going to appear exactly, you can't just sit around and do nothing anymore. If you want to sit there and wait for him to come back, you sacrifice potentially 3 minutes that you can be farming/pushing, as well as 3 minutes that the other team could be pushing on your tower/base. Do you really have the time to spare waiting around while the other team is out and destroying your base? When do you risk taking a team fight? Do I have a big enough lead or am I down significantly enough that it's worth sitting around for potentially 3 minutes doing nothing? It's a gamble on both sides with the consequences being significant at both extremes. To summary, it's more potential for a comeback after the enemy team kills Roshan. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
But seriously, the nerfs to Batrider makes me so sad T_T. From a competitive stand point it makes sense, but from a pubber it makes me depressed  | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:01 Elgar wrote: Isn't that the point? With the current system and how it is, everyone had the timing down perfectly. You know when he's going to respawn and everyone just crowds around, afraid to take a fight because they don't want to wipe with Roshan coming up soon. This became a stalemate for 2 minutes, with people just sitting there waiting for the other team to make a move. The new Roshan respawn adds some degree of randomness to it. There is a 3 minute window that he can respawn and that is a lot of time. By not knowing when he's going to appear exactly, you can't just sit around and do nothing anymore. If you want to sit there and wait for him to come back, you sacrifice potentially 3 minutes that you can be farming/pushing, as well as 3 minutes that the other team could be pushing on your tower/base. Do you really have the time to spare waiting around while the other team is out and destroying your base? When do you risk taking a team fight? Do I have a big enough lead or am I down significantly enough that it's worth sitting around for potentially 3 minutes doing nothing? It's a gamble on both sides with the consequences being significant at both extremes. Randomness and gamble. Exactly what you need in a competitive eSport game... How do you even make a call on that Roshan ? "It may or may not spawn in the next 30 secs so push X lane."? How ridiculous is that ? | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10877 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:33 Pr0wler wrote: Randomness and gamble. Exactly what you need in a competitive eSport game... How do you even make a call on that Roshan ? "It may or may not spawn in the next 30 secs so push X lane."? How ridiculous is that ? It adds more "chaos" and variety to the game... I like it, atm the game is sometimes a little to focused on exactly the thing you seem to like. Also: Tons of heroes got "scouting" spells which are now more usefull thanks to this. | ||
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