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On October 18 2013 04:12 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 04:11 canikizu wrote:
So is there any news about 6.79 for dota1? or IF just stops updating dota1?
Some changes are not doable in DotA 1 I'm pretty sure. Like the movespeed cap on Bloodseeker, I think you can't bypass the movespeed cap in the War3 engine
That and 100% movespeed slow from Wisp. I'm guessing what they ACTUALLY mean is that it'll ensnare them, because otherwise this can't actually enter Warcraft 3.
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woooooooooah this is going to take a while to understand...
wtf man I'm still not convinced this is real <_< >_>
k so it's on test client my bad
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On October 18 2013 03:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Roshan RNG respawn: I believe this only rewards boring split pushing more than ever. When teams knew exactly when Rosh spawned, it was almost a guarentee for a big teamfight regardless of how much/little action was going on inthe game before. Now, as long as you have an ability to scout the pit[...]
I think this part is key, the change promotes retaining controle over the rosh area and make sure that you can arrive in time for a spawn, which in itself may lead to more action.
Medusa
- Mystic Snake now does Pure damage to units in Stone Form
Why wasn't this mentioned already? <3 IF
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Don't really like most of the changes..
1) BS is now truly BS...
2) Disruptor buff is cool, but it's an AOE Doom. That's quite ridiculous too, though you could always step out of the AOE I guess.
3) Day/Night feels like an unnecessary change
4) Slark ulti can't be revealed...at least the CD is 65s.
5) Buyback change feels designed to curb rage buybacks lol. Decent change.
6) Roshan change is the best out of all these changes.
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Wow, so many changes that will completely turn the game on its head (not to mention builds and the metagame)!
And I'm uncertain if the Brewmaster Primal Split and Ags interaction is a nerf or not...
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Crazy patch. Gonna be fun to see how the game plays out.
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All I know, is that there needs to be some sick montages of blink swap into blink hook now that they can both get blink daggers.
On a more serious note, blink swap is going to be hilariously good. Swap already confuses most pubbers now imagine swapping and then instantly just double tapping for the blink back.
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On October 18 2013 04:16 Hermanoid wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I've only read what's not in the spoiler tag, but here goes.
The buyback change is huge. It'll make the endgame even more unstable and tip-toe. I honestly don't like it. Buyback was fine the way it was.
Rosh respawn timer being random forces the teams to pay closer attention to Rosh. I actually like this change. You still have a reason to time Rosh, but you have to check it more frequently so that you won't accidently give it away to the other team.
The new neutral camp allocation is good. They make chainpulling very viable, as the small camp dies much quicker and allows for quicker pulling. It's very biased toward Radiant however, as they have access to a much closer camp for chaining and will be able to do it with just one puller. Dire will probably need two players to chainpull, since the pull window for the camp you would use at the right side jungle was nerfed and probably made unusable. I hope it wasn't though. I really hope it wasnt. Then it would be a different story.
Overall, jungling seems to have become easier, but less rewarding for everyone. This might allow for new jungling heroes. I hope it does.
The new exp mechanic hopefully makes more heroes viable for offlaning, now that just surviving has major rewards. You'll most likely still be up against trilanes or duo with a jungler though.
Overall, the changes are interesing, but I hope they won't make Dota be less about clutch teamfights. That's what separates it from LoL.
The buyback change and the roshan change are to stop the stale 90 minute chinese games from happening. Those were so boring and since the timers were set in stone they could just let the game drag on forever. Now with buyback being a huge game changer and rosh respawn being unreliable, they have to fucking FIGHT now instead of farm and wait for rosh rinse repeat chinese rat doto crap.
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What in the world is this nonsense!
I'm in shock
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I wonder if Chen and his illegitimate daugther are gonan disappear after these jungle nerfs
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On October 18 2013 04:18 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 04:12 Fatalize wrote:On October 18 2013 04:11 canikizu wrote:
So is there any news about 6.79 for dota1? or IF just stops updating dota1?
Some changes are not doable in DotA 1 I'm pretty sure. Like the movespeed cap on Bloodseeker, I think you can't bypass the movespeed cap in the War3 engine That and 100% movespeed slow from Wisp. I'm guessing what they ACTUALLY mean is that it'll ensnare them, because otherwise this can't actually enter Warcraft 3.
It'll drop them to the minimum movespeed (128). There's already a 100% slow (140% from Invoker's Ice Wall)
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Aghanims on Rubick... Good idea!
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This patch is soooo nice! Frogo + Doto + Volvo = <3
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too much shit at once...holy hitler seriously
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This is really a lot of change. Wow.
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On October 18 2013 04:22 Geo.Rion wrote:
I wonder if Chen and his illegitimate daugther are gonan disappear after these jungle nerfs
I kinda hope so.
Also, Static Storm doesn't affect BKB targets, right? So if your BKB is active pre-Storm you're still ok. The big draw of Doom is that it goes through BKB and similar.
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On October 18 2013 04:26 LuckoftheIrish wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 04:22 Geo.Rion wrote:
I wonder if Chen and his illegitimate daugther are gonan disappear after these jungle nerfs I kinda hope so. Also, Static Storm doesn't affect BKB targets, right? So if your BKB is active pre-Storm you're still ok. The big draw of Doom is that it goes through BKB and similar.
That's still really strong. Just imagine Naga sleep into Static storm. That's guaranteed rampage
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On October 18 2013 04:15 Fatalize wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 04:14 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Skeleton King
- Removed Mortal Strike active
WHY ICEFROG WHY? SK forever 1 spell
Armlet toggling too hard with 2 spells.
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On October 18 2013 04:21 aeroblaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 04:16 Hermanoid wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I've only read what's not in the spoiler tag, but here goes.
The buyback change is huge. It'll make the endgame even more unstable and tip-toe. I honestly don't like it. Buyback was fine the way it was.
Rosh respawn timer being random forces the teams to pay closer attention to Rosh. I actually like this change. You still have a reason to time Rosh, but you have to check it more frequently so that you won't accidently give it away to the other team.
The new neutral camp allocation is good. They make chainpulling very viable, as the small camp dies much quicker and allows for quicker pulling. It's very biased toward Radiant however, as they have access to a much closer camp for chaining and will be able to do it with just one puller. Dire will probably need two players to chainpull, since the pull window for the camp you would use at the right side jungle was nerfed and probably made unusable. I hope it wasn't though. I really hope it wasnt. Then it would be a different story.
Overall, jungling seems to have become easier, but less rewarding for everyone. This might allow for new jungling heroes. I hope it does.
The new exp mechanic hopefully makes more heroes viable for offlaning, now that just surviving has major rewards. You'll most likely still be up against trilanes or duo with a jungler though.
Overall, the changes are interesing, but I hope they won't make Dota be less about clutch teamfights. That's what separates it from LoL. The buyback change and the roshan change are to stop the stale 90 minute chinese games from happening. Those were so boring and since the timers were set in stone they could just let the game drag on forever. Now with buyback being a huge game changer and rosh respawn being unreliable, they have to fucking FIGHT now instead of farm and wait for rosh rinse repeat chinese rat doto crap.
Please stop it with the Chinese stall dota myth when this is the primary Alliance tactic. The Rosh RNG respawn only helps teams that like to focus on split push. You might need to wait for the Rosh fight to happen but you are guarenteed a team fight at rosh pit. Now you are guarenteed a 0-3min increase in stalling before the rosh fight begins.
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