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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:50 nojok wrote: I was unsure too. Then I thought about fucking BB prophet. And I was happy. Prophet still retarded hero though increase treants bounty by 4 gold when they're as tanky as a hero gg icefraud disband | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
But that is too many fucking changes for a single patch, my brain won't remember everything. | ||
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7vPPQx7.jpg<br>) | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:51 MrHoon wrote: this 10000000000000% this I think the only change i disagree greatly with is probably the neutral camps sharing exp thing If it stops that boring afk pulling/offlaner in their own jungle cause they can't enter the offlane-thing I'm totally happy about that change | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
Some changes that don't make sense to me ... Roshan RNG respawn: I believe this only rewards boring split pushing more than ever. When teams knew exactly when Rosh spawned, it was almost a guarentee for a big teamfight regardless of how much/little action was going on inthe game before. Now, as long as you have an ability to scout the pit, you can split push like crazy while the less mobile team needs to stay near the pit in case rosh comes up. Teams are basically gambling with their map position during those few minutes and the split pushing team (ie boring game-extending dota that Icefrog is against) will have a greater advantage than ever. Jungle Aoe XP (excluding ancients): I think this is promoting bad play. Why should the lower skilled player be rewarded for my ability to out last hit them during jungle/pulling contests? Buyback changes: I'm still undecided about this. The existence of buyback in the game will always stall the game. Teams will probably save buybacks for Rosh and Base defense/siege. It certainly will make players think twice about buying back during other times since you can't even farm during the time you gained from a buyback. But how many buybacks are actually used to farm instead of to fight (apart from NP). I don't think the buyback problem is solved at all, it's simply a different problem now. ... and of course some of the hero changes are pretty ridiculous. One thing is for sure, from now until TI4 will be the most volatile period of the metagame we have ever seen. | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: There's a very real possibility that the changes to Roshan will just result in teams stalemating for 8 minutes instead of 5. I don't think it will play out that way most of the time, but it's possible. There's always going to be stalemate fights at rosh as long as it's in the game. The change increases the importance of vision wars and scouting tho. Speaking of rosh, I wish they had changed Naga's ult so it would make Rosh invincible too. It felt like the only broken part of the hero | ||
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Leeoku
1617 Posts
PUDGE CAN USE BLINK DAGGER | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:51 MrHoon wrote: this 10000000000000% this I think the only change i disagree greatly with is probably the neutral camps sharing exp thing Look at it this way, if they contest the pull, you won't lose all the exp. Also, darkseer can't totally fuck you when you double pull. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:47 Spektor wrote: Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering. All lead to the power of the Dark Side--also, cookies. Really though, I doubt Icefrog writes it himself. Whomever wrote it use poor word choice. No, you got it the wrong way around. Cookies lead to suffering. Cookie Clicker, to be precise. Whoever wrote it is still guilty of an incredibly stupid mistake. You should know the basic building blocks of the game, even if Rubick essentially didn't have one before... It really disappoints me that they didn't nerf OD into the ground. He's not OP, but he has an awful effect on the meta. | ||
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Spyisaspy
United States183 Posts
Huskar - Berserker's Blood is now disabled by Doom GUESS WHO'S GONNA PICK DOOM WHEN HUSKAR IS PICKED | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:53 wuhan_clan wrote: One thing is for sure, from now until TI4 will be the most volatile period of the metagame we have ever seen. I was thinking the same about the 2-2-2-2-1-1 CM system change haha | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:54 Spyisaspy wrote: I forgot about this Huskar - Berserker's Blood is now disabled by Doom GUESS WHO'S GONNA PICK DOOM WHEN HUSKAR IS PICKED You? I think it's you. The big change with him is removing the Ghost Scepter interaction. It was clearly not intended (though equally not a bug), and it's what sent Huskar over the edge. | ||
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Chronos.
United States805 Posts
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
the day/night, jungle and courier changes will be interesting. laning in general just got a whole lot crazier | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
It's a big hit to trilaning if the 2nd support cannot safely and reliably get XP because of how hard pulling was changed. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 18 2013 03:57 Jehct wrote: these notes are madness the day/night, jungle and courier changes will be interesting. laning in general just got a whole lot crazier The night day change makes nights taker become awesome way earlier, but for less time. Will he hit level 6 if he is mid by the first night? | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
That means more vision for team. Good news! The rest of the patch is just a wonky. I like some, but some are just ridiculous though. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
There's several things I'm worried about regarding this.. One is noobs rushing blink on pudge, losing the entire game immediately. Second is griefers trolling with it. It's also pretty strong for initiating. If pudge gets a good start in a game and grabs early blink, the whole map is basically lost xD. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
dual roam solo safelane + duo offlane + jungler eaaaaasy action. | ||
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