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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
October 17 2013 18:52 GMT
#441
On October 18 2013 03:50 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 03:45 Comeh wrote:
I'm still not sure how I feel about BB - BB was one of the best ways for a tema that was behind to stay in the game.

Do they just lose now?

I was unsure too. Then I thought about fucking BB prophet. And I was happy.

Prophet still retarded hero though

increase treants bounty by 4 gold when they're as tanky as a hero

gg icefraud disband
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
October 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#442
I'm kind of happy for those changes, that will change meta pretty hardcore, maybe forcing teams to play more aggressive - at least I hope so.

But that is too many fucking changes for a single patch, my brain won't remember everything.
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gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
October 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#443
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:56:15
October 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#444
On October 18 2013 03:51 MrHoon wrote:
this
10000000000000% this



I think the only change i disagree greatly with is probably the neutral camps sharing exp thing

If it stops that boring afk pulling/offlaner in their own jungle cause they can't enter the offlane-thing I'm totally happy about that change
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
October 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#445
This would have already been a huge patch even if they didn't change any heroes. The amount of drastic changes in a single patch is unprecedented. Forget everything that you knew about Dota and prepare to learn an entirely new game.


Some changes that don't make sense to me ...

Roshan RNG respawn: I believe this only rewards boring split pushing more than ever. When teams knew exactly when Rosh spawned, it was almost a guarentee for a big teamfight regardless of how much/little action was going on inthe game before. Now, as long as you have an ability to scout the pit, you can split push like crazy while the less mobile team needs to stay near the pit in case rosh comes up. Teams are basically gambling with their map position during those few minutes and the split pushing team (ie boring game-extending dota that Icefrog is against) will have a greater advantage than ever.

Jungle Aoe XP (excluding ancients): I think this is promoting bad play. Why should the lower skilled player be rewarded for my ability to out last hit them during jungle/pulling contests?

Buyback changes: I'm still undecided about this. The existence of buyback in the game will always stall the game. Teams will probably save buybacks for Rosh and Base defense/siege. It certainly will make players think twice about buying back during other times since you can't even farm during the time you gained from a buyback. But how many buybacks are actually used to farm instead of to fight (apart from NP). I don't think the buyback problem is solved at all, it's simply a different problem now.

... and of course some of the hero changes are pretty ridiculous.
One thing is for sure, from now until TI4 will be the most volatile period of the metagame we have ever seen.

TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
October 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#446
On October 18 2013 03:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 03:42 Fatalize wrote:
Why are people crying about the roshan nerf?

Teams stalemating for 5 fucking minutes waiting for Rosh to respawn was stupid


There's a very real possibility that the changes to Roshan will just result in teams stalemating for 8 minutes instead of 5.

I don't think it will play out that way most of the time, but it's possible.

There's always going to be stalemate fights at rosh as long as it's in the game. The change increases the importance of vision wars and scouting tho.

Speaking of rosh, I wish they had changed Naga's ult so it would make Rosh invincible too. It felt like the only broken part of the hero
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Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
October 17 2013 18:54 GMT
#447
Alot of interesting changes especially jugnle nerf

PUDGE CAN USE BLINK DAGGER
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 17 2013 18:54 GMT
#448
On October 18 2013 03:51 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 03:50 nojok wrote:
On October 18 2013 03:45 Comeh wrote:
I'm still not sure how I feel about BB - BB was one of the best ways for a tema that was behind to stay in the game.

Do they just lose now?

I was unsure too. Then I thought about fucking BB prophet. And I was happy.

this
10000000000000% this



I think the only change i disagree greatly with is probably the neutral camps sharing exp thing

Look at it this way, if they contest the pull, you won't lose all the exp. Also, darkseer can't totally fuck you when you double pull.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
October 17 2013 18:54 GMT
#449
On October 18 2013 03:47 Spektor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 03:43 Acritter wrote:
On October 18 2013 03:38 Fatalize wrote:
On October 18 2013 03:36 Acritter wrote:
I'm pretty sure this can't be real. Rubick already HAS an Aghs upgrade, and it says that they're adding it. That's just one of several things that seem highly questionable, not in terms of balance, but in terms of "would they REALLY write this?"


You think Valve developpers are gonna waste all their time implementing the changes and putting them in the test build as a joke?

Some people in this thread look incredibly stupid.

Not as stupid as Icefrog for not knowing what he already has in the game.

Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering. All lead to the power of the Dark Side--also, cookies.

Really though, I doubt Icefrog writes it himself. Whomever wrote it use poor word choice.

No, you got it the wrong way around. Cookies lead to suffering. Cookie Clicker, to be precise.

Whoever wrote it is still guilty of an incredibly stupid mistake. You should know the basic building blocks of the game, even if Rubick essentially didn't have one before...

It really disappoints me that they didn't nerf OD into the ground. He's not OP, but he has an awful effect on the meta.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
October 17 2013 18:54 GMT
#450
I forgot about this
Huskar
- Berserker's Blood is now disabled by Doom

GUESS WHO'S GONNA PICK DOOM WHEN HUSKAR IS PICKED
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 17 2013 18:55 GMT
#451
On October 18 2013 03:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
One thing is for sure, from now until TI4 will be the most volatile period of the metagame we have ever seen.


I was thinking the same about the 2-2-2-2-1-1 CM system change haha
EZ4ENCE
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
October 17 2013 18:56 GMT
#452
On October 18 2013 03:54 Spyisaspy wrote:
I forgot about this
Huskar
- Berserker's Blood is now disabled by Doom

GUESS WHO'S GONNA PICK DOOM WHEN HUSKAR IS PICKED

You? I think it's you.

The big change with him is removing the Ghost Scepter interaction. It was clearly not intended (though equally not a bug), and it's what sent Huskar over the edge.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
October 17 2013 18:57 GMT
#453
This is unbelievable. It took me so long just to read through it, gonna take a real long time to get used to all the changes. I love playing new patches though so I'm happy about it.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:58:01
October 17 2013 18:57 GMT
#454
these notes are madness

the day/night, jungle and courier changes will be interesting. laning in general just got a whole lot crazier
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 17 2013 18:59 GMT
#455
Jungle changes + creep wave meets further up + buff to strong offlane duo laners (e.g. Lich, Shaker) means we might see a shift back to 2-1-2, 2-2-1 or dual roam.

It's a big hit to trilaning if the 2nd support cannot safely and reliably get XP because of how hard pulling was changed.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 17 2013 19:00 GMT
#456
Anyone else happy about the Ancients farming nerf to remove all the ancient exploits? Sure it was sort of cool to see the Mirana supporting Pudge ancient pulls, but it's also a bit boring to watch since it just adds another nearly afk farmer to the team.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 17 2013 19:00 GMT
#457
On October 18 2013 03:57 Jehct wrote:
these notes are madness

the day/night, jungle and courier changes will be interesting. laning in general just got a whole lot crazier

The night day change makes nights taker become awesome way earlier, but for less time. Will he hit level 6 if he is mid by the first night?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 17 2013 19:00 GMT
#458
Obs ward changed to duration of 7 minutes, but does the cooldown to buy still remain at 6 minutes?

That means more vision for team. Good news!

The rest of the patch is just a wonky. I like some, but some are just ridiculous though.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 17 2013 19:01 GMT
#459
blink dagger pudge...oh boy...

There's several things I'm worried about regarding this..
One is noobs rushing blink on pudge, losing the entire game immediately.
Second is griefers trolling with it.
It's also pretty strong for initiating. If pudge gets a good start in a game and grabs early blink, the whole map is basically lost xD.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 17 2013 19:01 GMT
#460
2 - 1 - 2
dual roam
solo safelane + duo offlane + jungler

eaaaaasy action.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
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