EPTHoD/Satanic now better than vlads for Ursa, or does he still want the mana regen/armor?
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
HoD/Satanic now better than vlads for Ursa, or does he still want the mana regen/armor? | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On April 26 2014 10:07 LeLoup wrote: He was never going to get a Meta change. That's what defines the hero. What he got is huge .5 strength per level and no longer a guaranteed kill on the offlaner at 2 are great. It takes away a big part of his laning presence and he's now more squishy than ever meaning with good nukes you don't have to retreat against Meta anymore in the midgame. I was expecting more of an overhaul of the damage, making it weaker early and then more or less the same at max level. The change to Reflection only means that you have to put a few levels into it now to make it a bit more effective. While his armor is unchanged, losing health means a lot, but it also means that you just have to be a bit more careful and you can no longer be reckless with TB early even though his armor is still one of the highest in game early. I am curious of this means he'll be in Captains Mode in TI4 or will he join after  | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
Zeus Arc Lightning cast point improved from 0.4 to 0.2 Lightning Bolt true sight range reduced from 900 to 750 Lightning Bolt flying vision range reduced from 1000 to 750 Lightning Bolt can now be cast on the ground, affecting the closest enemy hero in a 250 range Wait. So am I right in saying Zeus can de-ward whenever he likes, even high ground, starting from level 1 at will? | ||
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
On April 26 2014 10:15 Asymmetric wrote: Wait. So am I right in saying Zeus can de-ward whenever he likes, even high ground, starting from level 1 at will? Nope, enemy hero - wards are not hero classed | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
He still gets the vision, so yes EDIT: Bloodseeker now confirmed to be the counter to everything. | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
Right, but it doesn't actually specify what it means by that. I assumed it meant the lightning bolt only hits a hero within 250 range, but you still are granted the true sight bonus regardless of location. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 26 2014 09:59 LeLoup wrote: BTW the CK change is hilarious. 50% of the time you'll get an extra CK. Not 100%, just 50% Meet the new RNJesus hero I totally called this change months ago :D | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On April 26 2014 10:12 LeLoup wrote: One thing I think has to be talked about is the fact that Fury Swipes is no longer than an Orb. HoD/Satanic now better than vlads for Ursa, or does he still want the mana regen/armor? I was thinking about that too. The armor is the same for both vlads and hotd, so the real difference is mana regen + team aura vs hotd creep + buildup into satanic. I think im going hotd on him unless i have another melee hard carry on the team. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 26 2014 10:12 LeLoup wrote: One thing I think has to be talked about is the fact that Fury Swipes is no longer than an Orb. HoD/Satanic now better than vlads for Ursa, or does he still want the mana regen/armor? Deso seems like the most appealing orb, IMO. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
For zeus changes, does this mean that you can ground target lightning bolt to hit an invis unit? IIRC the vision is provided before the damage. | ||
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
On April 26 2014 10:19 Asymmetric wrote: Right, but it doesn't actually specify what it means by that. I assumed it meant the lightning bolt only hits a hero within 250 range, but you still are granted the true sight bonus regardless of location. Ah, I forgot it did that - Time to find out | ||
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On April 26 2014 10:20 TheYango wrote: Deso seems like the most appealing orb, IMO. what about diffusal? | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On April 26 2014 10:19 Asymmetric wrote: Right, but it doesn't actually specify what it means by that. I assumed it meant the lightning bolt only hits a hero within 250 range, but you still are granted the true sight bonus regardless of location. Tested in Client. think of it like Light Strike Array. Except it only can target 1 hero in the radius and gives truesight. | ||
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
Looking forward to what happens in the competitive scene from this! Woohoo! | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
You won't build desolator on Ursa anyway before main items and Huskar doesn't care at all. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Possibly useful if Ghost Scepter becomes an issue for you, but under normal circumstances Deso just seems to have the best interaction with Ursa's normal gameplay of Blink->someone dies in 6 hits. | ||
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