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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
February 07 2013 15:53 GMT
#3881
You don't need a shield to tank in this game, don't worry about going sword/board unless you really wanna play that way.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
February 07 2013 16:07 GMT
#3882
On February 08 2013 00:35 WaZ wrote:
ive got a dh friend coming back to d3 so I wanna be able to tank a bit more for him are there any good sword n board builds out atm? I know good shields can be found pretty cheap so I may just put one in my stash and only use with him but right now we cant really play together effectively T_T
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/WaZ-1854/hero/20269737 any other item changes I should make while tanking for him?


In D3 barbs tank with life steal, armor and AR. Shields aren't a necessity for tanking.
I'm the benevolent dictator you've been looking for.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 08 2013 23:47 GMT
#3883
Hello barbars:

I'm building a new WW barb to farm with in 1.07, the budget is 200-300m, possibly more if I'm on the cusp of being able to effectively farm an MP higher.

The goal is is to farm higher MP for the extra bonus XP in the new patch. What is a reasonable MP to set my sights on with that budget? 3? 4? I know it's tough to say, because crafting will change a lot of things. Aside from the gear budget, I have enough mats to make 200 amus and 200 gloves, i may try making some shoulders as well. GG VWs are just so damn overpriced. Lets just say 250M for everything but gloves/amu. My question for you all, is:

What stat goals should I have in mind when putting this toon together, and what MP will that handle well? How much cc/cd/ias/str/ar etc.

Go ahead and crush my dreams if I'm being delusional about how far my budget will go
Turin
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany72 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 01:08:10
February 09 2013 01:07 GMT
#3884
My barb can farm mp5 efficiently (meaning almost all white mobs that get hit by a single tornado die). D3rawr gives me a truedps of 2.8 mill vs elite demons, 2 mill vs white monsters.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Turinturamba-2768/hero/9100098

Gear without gems cost me ~260 million with bracers, right ring and mainhand selffound. You can get gear pretty cheap if you don't go for the cookie cutter items that everyone wants (IK set, echoing fury, good lacunis).

As for offensive stats crit damage and strength is not that important. You need pretty high attackspeed/crit chance to keep wrath of the berserker up for the whole run. Defensive stats are not that important as long as you don't get 1-2 shotted. With whirlwind and enough lifeleech you basically heal to full every tick. Just to give you an idea I can solo mp7 ubers with my pitiful +270 allres and roughly 50k hp, although Magdha is tricky.
Lysu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria21 Posts
February 09 2013 03:03 GMT
#3885
What is the best way to prevent taking too much dmg from reflecting damage as HotA barb?

Playin mp7 with 60k life 150k dps and 69,2% damage reduction got 7,8% LS and like 400 loh

DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
February 09 2013 03:16 GMT
#3886
On February 09 2013 12:03 Lysu wrote:
What is the best way to prevent taking too much dmg from reflecting damage as HotA barb?

Playin mp7 with 60k life 150k dps and 69,2% damage reduction got 7,8% LS and like 400 loh



only way is to get better damage reduction. In next patch you will be able to see when they are reflecting and simply not hit when they do
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
February 09 2013 03:55 GMT
#3887
the damage from reflect is physical so stack physical resistance for it if needed
nV[MB]
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland58 Posts
February 09 2013 09:23 GMT
#3888
On February 09 2013 08:47 Eschaton wrote:
Hello barbars:

I'm building a new WW barb to farm with in 1.07, the budget is 200-300m, possibly more if I'm on the cusp of being able to effectively farm an MP higher.

The goal is is to farm higher MP for the extra bonus XP in the new patch. What is a reasonable MP to set my sights on with that budget? 3? 4? I know it's tough to say, because crafting will change a lot of things. Aside from the gear budget, I have enough mats to make 200 amus and 200 gloves, i may try making some shoulders as well. GG VWs are just so damn overpriced. Lets just say 250M for everything but gloves/amu.


http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Skyfall-2871/hero/21916088

Costed me around 320M without gems. Capable of doing MP5-6 easily after swap to WotB and Bloodthirst, with current skill setup cuts through MP3 (and with reflect changes should do well on MP4) like hot knife through butter.

real sheet dps is 144k with SoJ on.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 10:07:44
February 09 2013 09:54 GMT
#3889
On February 09 2013 08:47 Eschaton wrote:
Hello barbars:

I'm building a new WW barb to farm with in 1.07, the budget is 200-300m, possibly more if I'm on the cusp of being able to effectively farm an MP higher.

The goal is is to farm higher MP for the extra bonus XP in the new patch. What is a reasonable MP to set my sights on with that budget? 3? 4? I know it's tough to say, because crafting will change a lot of things. Aside from the gear budget, I have enough mats to make 200 amus and 200 gloves, i may try making some shoulders as well. GG VWs are just so damn overpriced. Lets just say 250M for everything but gloves/amu. My question for you all, is:

What stat goals should I have in mind when putting this toon together, and what MP will that handle well? How much cc/cd/ias/str/ar etc.

Go ahead and crush my dreams if I'm being delusional about how far my budget will go


200-300 million?

are u kidding? MP10 easy lol.


I do mp7 without much of a problem, i can even do mp10 if im patient, although its obviously rly slow then.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312

u can build this for ~35 million...


€: i notice that many ppl with about 200-300 million dont manage to go over 150k dps, i find this to be absolutly hilarious. they seem to prefer a 4,5% crit ring over a 3,5% crit ring with +40-60 dmg for example, while the second ring gives u about 4k more dps.
Or they spend a shitton of gold for 20% crit damage added to the ring as well, while they could get 100 more STR instead, which is insanly much better.

Be smart when buying stuff, Crit, attackspeed and critdamage are very nice, but remember that STR and pure DMG are just as good or even better to up your damage - and much cheaper.

Also, many ppl seem to underestimate LoH as an defensive attribute. Dont know why that is.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
February 09 2013 10:18 GMT
#3890
I do mp7 without much of a problem, i can even do mp10 if im patient, although its obviously rly slow then.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312


Its all about efficiency! Everyone can do MP10, but its nearly impossible to do it as efficient as in MP0/1.
nV[MB]
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland58 Posts
February 09 2013 10:53 GMT
#3891
On February 09 2013 18:54 KalWarkov wrote:€: i notice that many ppl with about 200-300 million dont manage to go over 150k dps, i find this to be absolutly hilarious.


why would anyone playing ww/sprint care about their sheet dps ?
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
February 09 2013 10:57 GMT
#3892
On February 09 2013 12:03 Lysu wrote:
What is the best way to prevent taking too much dmg from reflecting damage as HotA barb?

Playin mp7 with 60k life 150k dps and 69,2% damage reduction got 7,8% LS and like 400 loh


RD elites are affected by two different bugs... First of all RD minions reflects a lot more damage than expected (like, i get 3 shotted at mp5 with 700k crits), so focus fire the leader first and/or kill some white mobs while in the fight. Then there is the health link / life steal bug, where your damage is split between each elite but you get back the life stolen only from the elite you hit directly (or something like that). You can prevent this with LOH instead of LS, so you should be fine (I got 5.9%ls and 460loh from BT's pants and that's enough even with 400k+ dps).
It is well known since 1.05 but nothing has changed so far; even worse, Blizzard's CM initially stated that they weren't aware of any problem with RD. I bet that the new RD mechanics in 1.07 won't solve the bugs.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 09 2013 11:21 GMT
#3893
On February 09 2013 19:53 nV[MB] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 18:54 KalWarkov wrote:€: i notice that many ppl with about 200-300 million dont manage to go over 150k dps, i find this to be absolutly hilarious.


why would anyone playing ww/sprint care about their sheet dps ?


because its the best indicator for your damage?
if u stay on the same offhand, an item that gives u higher sheet dps also increases ur ww/sprint dmg
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
nV[MB]
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland58 Posts
February 09 2013 11:47 GMT
#3894
On February 09 2013 20:21 KalWarkov wrote:because its the best indicator for your damage?
if u stay on the same offhand, an item that gives u higher sheet dps also increases ur ww/sprint dmg


A mainhand weapon that is faster than yours and has even higher listed dps might have lower base damage, so using it will inflate your sheet dps and at the same time decrease your tornado/rend damage.

Also, as for other items, plenty of them have affixes that dont add to your sheet dps but increase your overall damage done, eg. extra damage vs elites or cold damage (that slows monsters down -> causes them to take more tornado ticks AND reduces the impact that fear effect from EF has on your overall damage done).

For instance, switching from Unity to SoJ causes me to drop from 169k unbuffed to 'hilarous' 144k, but at the same time increases my kill count / hour by around 10-15%.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
February 09 2013 14:51 GMT
#3895
Anyway, enough cc/aps to keep wotb up are more important even when the sheet dps is lower.

kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
February 09 2013 16:05 GMT
#3896
Thinking about getting back into the game; is WW still the only viable build for Paragon farming?

My Barb right now is naked, Level 60+37 and has 0 Gold - how would I go about getting back the quickest? Naked Normal farming? PayPal, alas, isn't an option right now.
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Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 17:06:50
February 09 2013 17:06 GMT
#3897
Progress on my new barb shopping spree: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Eschaton-1341/hero/31219660

Total so far: 72M

I have some of the core pieces squared away, but I'm not totally happy with a few. I'm well below budget atm, but I'm playing it safe not spending too much on gear that I'm not experienced in trading. Ignore amu/rings. Rings (rare and HF) are from my CM wiz, amu is a random MF piece i had laying around in the stash. I plan on crafting Amu/Glove/Shoulder, crafted bracer would also be nice, but I may end up needing the move speed from a Lacuni in that slot as Inna's are just so weak in every other regard. Kind of regretting selling my 5.5CC/80vit lacunis in fear of crafted bracer supremacy, but if anything ill just buy back something similar for cheaper after 1.07.

ARMOR-
IK Chest - 7.9m cookie cutter IK I know...
IK belt - 6m Str/Vit + Bash %
IK boot - 2.5m meh, with IK chest + boots i get the AR bonus, maybe something better could be here? Firewalkers? Need to keep MS here. Maybe I should have got more STR here.
Rare str/vit pants - 5.5m These will probably lose all value when 1.07 hits but wth
Mempo str/vit - 16m Okok people don't like mempos. I like the IAS and %life and should have enough crit elsewhere. I refuse to use inna's for IAS xD

WEAPONS-
rare mainhand - 30m. Doesn't have CD, but str/vit sock and high weap dmg. Might have been a bad move price wise, but should be pretty nice for tornado ticks.
EF oh - 4m Str would be nice here isntead of Int, but i'd be looking at dropping another 30m here.

Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
February 09 2013 17:43 GMT
#3898
Why the heck you spend so much money on an IK Belt? I got a belt with nearly the same stats ( without vit) for under 2M.

Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 09 2013 17:47 GMT
#3899
On February 10 2013 02:43 Slackzftw wrote:
Why the heck you spend so much money on an IK Belt? I got a belt with nearly the same stats ( without vit) for under 2M.



Because an IK belt without Vit does not have the same stats as an IK belt with Vit. Lacunis with Vit are vastly more expensive than those without.
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
February 09 2013 17:55 GMT
#3900
Just get the Vit on another item lol! Its way cheaper than to get it on the Belt...
Especially with the craftable items you'll have a good chance to get 100+vit on your amu.
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