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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 19:53:11
January 28 2013 19:51 GMT
#3861
On January 29 2013 02:38 Conquest101 wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Conquest-1108/hero/22660051

So I finally hit paragon 50 with my barb (been playing pretty off/on lately), and was wondering what would be the best slot to try to upgrade next.

Ignore the fact that I don't have 24% MS in that profile snapshot. I throw on those Ice Climbers for Ubers (or swap them on when fighting elites on high MP sometimes). I have a pretty ordinary pair of IK boots for regular low mp farming. I was thinking of picking up a pair of vit Inna's pants and leaving my Ice Climbers on full time, but I've been hesitant about the big survivability dip. I also usually use a HF ring (5.5% crit, otherwise unremarkable) in place of my first ring.

Currently have about 170 million gold to spend. Upgrades getting so expensive now :/
Would like to up my DPS and maybe my sustain some more without losing too much EHP.

i dont particularly like your gloves. 150 str, cc and ias or cd would yield higher dps for few money....

and your amu isnt too great, but you should obviously wait for the patch to be released to upgrade it

what is also somewhat missing on your gear imho is bonus to elites. but thats hard to gauge as its not shown in the charscreen.
you could also get some crit dam on your offhand to enhance your dps.

your shoulders also dont convince me, at least not considering your high overall gear quality and funds. more than 200 str should be a must on shoulders without pickup radius and without life%. in general, i would prefer 80ish vita and 8+ life% over 130 vita.



other than that and in total, i really like your gear. dont get my criticizing wrong, its on a high level
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 28 2013 20:03 GMT
#3862
On January 29 2013 02:38 Conquest101 wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Conquest-1108/hero/22660051

So I finally hit paragon 50 with my barb (been playing pretty off/on lately), and was wondering what would be the best slot to try to upgrade next.

Ignore the fact that I don't have 24% MS in that profile snapshot. I throw on those Ice Climbers for Ubers (or swap them on when fighting elites on high MP sometimes). I have a pretty ordinary pair of IK boots for regular low mp farming. I was thinking of picking up a pair of vit Inna's pants and leaving my Ice Climbers on full time, but I've been hesitant about the big survivability dip. I also usually use a HF ring (5.5% crit, otherwise unremarkable) in place of my first ring.

Currently have about 170 million gold to spend. Upgrades getting so expensive now :/
Would like to up my DPS and maybe my sustain some more without losing too much EHP.

You can drop a lot of vitality, around ~300.


Shoulders: search for 250str, 90vit, 70ar

Gloves: what Black Gun said. Search for 170+ str and ias.

Belt: 250str

Pants: same stats, 2 sockets

Offhand: give up the vitality, search for strenght, life steal, critical damage and socket

Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
January 29 2013 03:47 GMT
#3863
Thanks for the help guys.

I'll definitely be looking out to upgrade my shoulders, but probably after the patch hits. Gonna try to craft a few too heh. Same with the amulet.

Will focus on the gloves and belt next.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
January 29 2013 09:45 GMT
#3864
Made a few changes based on Big G's advice, find my farming runs are a lot quicker now with a damage buff + SoJ (man that helps you rip though elite packs)

Still on the lookout for an IK chest with 180 vit, but other than that, what would my next logical step be?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/nekovivie-2654/hero/3148418
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 29 2013 12:08 GMT
#3865
What MP are you playing at? DR seems a bit low, you may want to squeeze in some resist or armor after you get a better IK chest.

Other than that, your gear seems fairly balanced, you're probably in that bitter situation where each upgrade costs ~100 mil. In the long run you'll probably want more strength on shoulders, maxed ias and cc on IK gloves and Lacuni, Mempo with cc (...yeah), better weapons etc.



I'm open to suggestions too: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709

I'm trying to reach 300k dps with b.rage (yeah I'm 100% bored) while keeping the IK set and the actual DR, right now I'm at 282k and other than 6-10k dps margin on the amulet I'm lost. 300mil budget isn't enough I guess.

Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 29 2013 12:27 GMT
#3866
On January 29 2013 21:08 Big G wrote:


I'm open to suggestions too: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709

I'm trying to reach 300k dps with b.rage (yeah I'm 100% bored) while keeping the IK set and the actual DR, right now I'm at 282k and other than 6-10k dps margin on the amulet I'm lost. 300mil budget isn't enough I guess.


hmm, im not sure if your mainhand is optimal. due to nado mechanics, im fairly sure a 1.1k dps weapon without ls or str and +70 cd would probably increase your damage output. dunno if this would also be the case on a hota build.

other than that, you should easily get over 300k dps once the patch rolls out and you can craft insane amus.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 29 2013 12:51 GMT
#3867
On January 29 2013 21:27 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:08 Big G wrote:


I'm open to suggestions too: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709

I'm trying to reach 300k dps with b.rage (yeah I'm 100% bored) while keeping the IK set and the actual DR, right now I'm at 282k and other than 6-10k dps margin on the amulet I'm lost. 300mil budget isn't enough I guess.


hmm, im not sure if your mainhand is optimal. due to nado mechanics, im fairly sure a 1.1k dps weapon without ls or str and +70 cd would probably increase your damage output. dunno if this would also be the case on a hota build.

other than that, you should easily get over 300k dps once the patch rolls out and you can craft insane amus.

HotA alternates the weapons , and mine are almost identical when you consider the 0.25aps bonus. Life steal is necessary, I play at MP5 and with ~400k dps RD elites are a nightmare.

Yeah I forgot to mention that I'm not sure at all to replace my amulet before 1.07. I don't trust in crafting myself but prices in AH may go down a bit. I'm too bored to keep the same gear for weeks though, and my only options atm are amulet and Lacuni with 6%cc (for a whopping 2.5k dps increase).




zoltanium
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia171 Posts
February 01 2013 09:22 GMT
#3868
Hey guys,

I recently picked up d3 again after quitting it pretty quickly, and im a bit lost now as to what direction i should head in
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zoltanium-6964/hero/1091789
Thats my character, pretty shitty! So looking at everyones characters in here i can figure out what my long term direction should regarding items (echoing fury, immortal chest piece, better rings with CC,CD, IAS etc). I have around 3 million in the bank, is there any stepping stone items I could grab pretty cheaply in the short term?

Also, kinda off topic as it relates to farming, but apart from the usual obvious high value items, are there any rare items i should keep an eye on while farming that make a good sell? eg i saw that gold chance and pickup radius are good items to sell because of the bots.
mate
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
February 01 2013 10:14 GMT
#3869
You can build a gearset that can farm MP0-1 pretty cheaply these days. Give yourself a budget of around 200k per slot with 500k for weapons (totals up to roughly your 3m) and see what you can get.

aim for crit chance, crit damage, str, vit and if possible life on hit where possible.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
February 01 2013 14:28 GMT
#3870
On January 29 2013 21:51 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:27 Black Gun wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:08 Big G wrote:


I'm open to suggestions too: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709

I'm trying to reach 300k dps with b.rage (yeah I'm 100% bored) while keeping the IK set and the actual DR, right now I'm at 282k and other than 6-10k dps margin on the amulet I'm lost. 300mil budget isn't enough I guess.


hmm, im not sure if your mainhand is optimal. due to nado mechanics, im fairly sure a 1.1k dps weapon without ls or str and +70 cd would probably increase your damage output. dunno if this would also be the case on a hota build.

other than that, you should easily get over 300k dps once the patch rolls out and you can craft insane amus.

HotA alternates the weapons , and mine are almost identical when you consider the 0.25aps bonus. Life steal is necessary, I play at MP5 and with ~400k dps RD elites are a nightmare.

Yeah I forgot to mention that I'm not sure at all to replace my amulet before 1.07. I don't trust in crafting myself but prices in AH may go down a bit. I'm too bored to keep the same gear for weeks though, and my only options atm are amulet and Lacuni with 6%cc (for a whopping 2.5k dps increase).





I think you can get 270+ str shoulders. +50 strength may give you like 10-15k damage considering that you are relatively low on strength.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
February 01 2013 17:16 GMT
#3871
On February 01 2013 18:22 zoltanium wrote:
eg i saw that gold chance and pickup radius are good items to sell because of the bots.


Last night sold some bracers 90str 90dex 90vit 40phys resist 22% gold 7 pickup radius for 3 million.

So yes. If it has gold find and pickup radius it will sell.

SepH_TL
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom16 Posts
February 03 2013 01:49 GMT
#3872
Just starting Act 1 Hardcore, with a barb for the first time. My main is a DH so not really sure exactly what i should be looking to increase, havent got much gold at moment (about 1m) so looking for cost efficient ways to increase survivability. Any help much appreciated

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SepH-1101/hero/22292262
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 02:26:27
February 03 2013 02:26 GMT
#3873
On February 03 2013 10:49 SepH_TL wrote:
Just starting Act 1 Hardcore, with a barb for the first time. My main is a DH so not really sure exactly what i should be looking to increase, havent got much gold at moment (about 1m) so looking for cost efficient ways to increase survivability. Any help much appreciated

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SepH-1101/hero/22292262

id say the single most life-boosting upgrade would be a helm with a socket, so that you can use an amethyst in it that gives 12-14% life. with your already rather high amount of vitality (by sc standards ) and complete lack of life%, this should help a lot. could single-handedly bring you to over 50k life.

a higher block chance on the stormshield would also help. and more res are also desperately needed if you ever want to progress past mp0-1 act1...

"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
SepH_TL
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom16 Posts
February 03 2013 03:02 GMT
#3874
On February 03 2013 11:26 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 10:49 SepH_TL wrote:
Just starting Act 1 Hardcore, with a barb for the first time. My main is a DH so not really sure exactly what i should be looking to increase, havent got much gold at moment (about 1m) so looking for cost efficient ways to increase survivability. Any help much appreciated

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SepH-1101/hero/22292262

id say the single most life-boosting upgrade would be a helm with a socket, so that you can use an amethyst in it that gives 12-14% life. with your already rather high amount of vitality (by sc standards ) and complete lack of life%, this should help a lot. could single-handedly bring you to over 50k life.

a higher block chance on the stormshield would also help. and more res are also desperately needed if you ever want to progress past mp0-1 act1...



Thanks for the help, i brought a socketed helm, and due to the life increase from % i could drop that bit of vit from the helm and get crit chance / armour instead, for 250k!

Nice one thanks,

Will look to upgrade the stormsheild, need to AH for a bit to get some money though.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 03:54:44
February 03 2013 03:47 GMT
#3875
hey guys, what should i upgrade first?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312

i was thinking shoulders and gem for mainhand / helmet.
I tried to buy different rings in a price range of 3 million, but i couldnt find anything that acutally did more damage then the one i got (which surprises me...).
im pretty low on money, the IK armor was very expensive for my budget already.

any tips?


€: another question:
i see most ppl with MF gear on their followers - why is that?
its not like they would lasthit a lot of mobs - or is the system different from d2?
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
February 03 2013 03:48 GMT
#3876
On February 01 2013 23:28 Reasonable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:51 Big G wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:27 Black Gun wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:08 Big G wrote:


I'm open to suggestions too: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/BigG-2621/hero/412709

I'm trying to reach 300k dps with b.rage (yeah I'm 100% bored) while keeping the IK set and the actual DR, right now I'm at 282k and other than 6-10k dps margin on the amulet I'm lost. 300mil budget isn't enough I guess.


hmm, im not sure if your mainhand is optimal. due to nado mechanics, im fairly sure a 1.1k dps weapon without ls or str and +70 cd would probably increase your damage output. dunno if this would also be the case on a hota build.

other than that, you should easily get over 300k dps once the patch rolls out and you can craft insane amus.

HotA alternates the weapons , and mine are almost identical when you consider the 0.25aps bonus. Life steal is necessary, I play at MP5 and with ~400k dps RD elites are a nightmare.

Yeah I forgot to mention that I'm not sure at all to replace my amulet before 1.07. I don't trust in crafting myself but prices in AH may go down a bit. I'm too bored to keep the same gear for weeks though, and my only options atm are amulet and Lacuni with 6%cc (for a whopping 2.5k dps increase).





I think you can get 270+ str shoulders. +50 strength may give you like 10-15k damage considering that you are relatively low on strength.

Dude, I had 3200 strength (3000 now with a different amulet, but I kept the old one), which is better than 99.99% of barbarians. It is exactly the least valuable stat I can get right now.

Shoulders with 270str and same vitality (or equivalent amount of vit/%life) and AR cost something like 500mil.


Anyway, I'm slowly quitting D3, so I don't care anymore. Apart from a pair of Depth Diggers sold for 50mil, the last good drop was 3 months and 410 (yeah, four hundred and ten) legendaries ago. Considering that any upgrade costs me at least 200mil, I give up.
nV[MB]
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland58 Posts
February 03 2013 16:48 GMT
#3877
€: another question:
i see most ppl with MF gear on their followers - why is that?
its not like they would lasthit a lot of mobs - or is the system different from d2?


1/5th of the MF/GF and +exp bonuses your follower has are added to your stats.
Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
February 03 2013 17:55 GMT
#3878
On February 03 2013 12:47 KalWarkov wrote:
hey guys, what should i upgrade first?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312

i was thinking shoulders and gem for mainhand / helmet.
I tried to buy different rings in a price range of 3 million, but i couldnt find anything that acutally did more damage then the one i got (which surprises me...).
im pretty low on money, the IK armor was very expensive for my budget already.


Basically anything. Its hard, you shoul not spend too much money for small upgrades. First farm some hellfire rings, even the worst roll possible gives you 180+ str and 35% xp.
Then I would wait for 1.0.7 - shouldn't take too long to craft some upgrades for you. Especially on the Amu-Slot its not that hard to get pretty solid items.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 03 2013 20:06 GMT
#3879
On February 04 2013 01:48 nV[MB] wrote:
Show nested quote +
€: another question:
i see most ppl with MF gear on their followers - why is that?
its not like they would lasthit a lot of mobs - or is the system different from d2?


1/5th of the MF/GF and +exp bonuses your follower has are added to your stats.



On February 04 2013 02:55 Dirkinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 12:47 KalWarkov wrote:
hey guys, what should i upgrade first?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DiaBoLuS-2643/hero/19312

i was thinking shoulders and gem for mainhand / helmet.
I tried to buy different rings in a price range of 3 million, but i couldnt find anything that acutally did more damage then the one i got (which surprises me...).
im pretty low on money, the IK armor was very expensive for my budget already.


Basically anything. Its hard, you shoul not spend too much money for small upgrades. First farm some hellfire rings, even the worst roll possible gives you 180+ str and 35% xp.
Then I would wait for 1.0.7 - shouldn't take too long to craft some upgrades for you. Especially on the Amu-Slot its not that hard to get pretty solid items.



thanks to both of you!
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
WaZ
Profile Joined December 2010
United States108 Posts
February 07 2013 15:35 GMT
#3880
ive got a dh friend coming back to d3 so I wanna be able to tank a bit more for him are there any good sword n board builds out atm? I know good shields can be found pretty cheap so I may just put one in my stash and only use with him but right now we cant really play together effectively T_T
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/WaZ-1854/hero/20269737 any other item changes I should make while tanking for him?
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