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Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 14:25:12
January 23 2013 14:23 GMT
#3821
On January 23 2013 23:00 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 22:49 Golbat wrote:
I'm going to preface this by saying I have 100% no idea what I'm doing. I like the build that I'm using right now, but if I'm doing it wrong any kind of direction would be appreciated. In the mean time I'm going to go back through the thread and see what useful info I can pick out.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Golbat-1394/hero/14805533

I don't really have any money either, but an idea of what I should be saving up for would be nice.

Oh-my-god.

Ok, I'll try to stay calm.

You have half the hp you need, low resistances, almost no cc and your gear is practically worthless.

...

Then I see your helm. (insert pokerface.gif)

...

Do you know that it is worth FIVE-HUNDRED-MILLION-GOLD (on EU)?




Are you for real? That just dropped for me yesterday T.T

But besides my helm, I should look for more vitality gear instead of strength?
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 14:32:04
January 23 2013 14:30 GMT
#3822
The gear I posted in my profile a few posts up cost less than 500m altogether, you can get a pretty nice barb for that money.

Sell the mempo, and upgrade the rest of your gear.

A full set is better than one godly item and then garbage in the other slots...no offense :p

Aim for items with STR + VIT + All Res where possible. Slots that can roll crit, you want crit, so 4+ for rings, 8+ for amu etc etc.

Then once you have crit, try to up your crit damage. No point focusing on crit damage for the moment with your crit so low. If you can get pieces with both for cheap, then by all means go for it.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 14:35:16
January 23 2013 14:32 GMT
#3823
On January 23 2013 23:23 Golbat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 23:00 Big G wrote:
On January 23 2013 22:49 Golbat wrote:
I'm going to preface this by saying I have 100% no idea what I'm doing. I like the build that I'm using right now, but if I'm doing it wrong any kind of direction would be appreciated. In the mean time I'm going to go back through the thread and see what useful info I can pick out.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Golbat-1394/hero/14805533

I don't really have any money either, but an idea of what I should be saving up for would be nice.

Oh-my-god.

Ok, I'll try to stay calm.

You have half the hp you need, low resistances, almost no cc and your gear is practically worthless.

...

Then I see your helm. (insert pokerface.gif)

...

Do you know that it is worth FIVE-HUNDRED-MILLION-GOLD (on EU)?




Are you for real? That just dropped for me yesterday T.T

But besides my helm, I should look for more vitality gear instead of strength?

I'm on EU, so just check it yourself. Search for a Mempo with 170+ strenght and 4.5 critical hit chance, you'll see with your own eyes.

You should aim for 40k hp, 500 resistances (before War Cry) and some life on hit / life steal depending on the MP you farm in. Then as much strenght, cc, cd, ias you can afford.

I wrote some advice for budget barbs some pages ago, but it doesn't make sense to have 1 million worth of gear with a 500 million helm, so I think you should sell it. :/


(just so you know, I played 800 hours, my gear is worth ~2 billion gold... but I never found something remotely similar to that Mempo)
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
January 23 2013 14:35 GMT
#3824
Then to the auction house I go. I'll come back when I have a more well-rounded set of gear.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 23 2013 14:40 GMT
#3825
On January 23 2013 23:35 Golbat wrote:
Then to the auction house I go. I'll come back when I have a more well-rounded set of gear.

Come back before that if you need help. :/

If you're not familiar with the AH, just remember that anything that's for sale since 4-5 hours is probably overpriced.
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
January 23 2013 14:58 GMT
#3826
I do have one question. Are there any specific sets or items that I should be on the lookout for? Like the immortal king's set for example?
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
January 23 2013 15:19 GMT
#3827
On January 23 2013 23:58 Golbat wrote:
I do have one question. Are there any specific sets or items that I should be on the lookout for? Like the immortal king's set for example?

You definitely should sell that mempo for somewhere around half a billion ASAP, before it drops in price. I have a quite effective budget set (less than 100 mil total excluding gems). You can take a look and a get a similar one. It might cost a bit more on EU, not sure.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Reasonable-1733/hero/25112370

Also if anyone sees any gaps in my gear, please let me know. I really can't see what I can upgrade that would boost my damage significantly (at least by 2k unbuffed) and spend less than 30 mil on it.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 15:25:07
January 23 2013 15:23 GMT
#3828

@golbat


Yeah the IK set is awesome.

Helm: 170str, 5.5%cc, +250armor

Chest: around 150str/150vit if you can afford it, otherwise around 160/90

Gloves: 170str, 9.5cc, ias or cd

Belt: 170str, 70vit (over 200str if you can), + a valuable skill bonus (bash, frenzy, weapon throw)

Boots: everything over 100str and/or 100vit is fine, depending on your needs
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 23 2013 15:33 GMT
#3829
On January 24 2013 00:19 Reasonable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 23:58 Golbat wrote:
I do have one question. Are there any specific sets or items that I should be on the lookout for? Like the immortal king's set for example?

You definitely should sell that mempo for somewhere around half a billion ASAP, before it drops in price. I have a quite effective budget set (less than 100 mil total excluding gems). You can take a look and a get a similar one. It might cost a bit more on EU, not sure.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Reasonable-1733/hero/25112370

Also if anyone sees any gaps in my gear, please let me know. I really can't see what I can upgrade that would boost my damage significantly (at least by 2k unbuffed) and spend less than 30 mil on it.

An Echoing Fury with 1050-1100dps and socket I guess.
Turin
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany72 Posts
January 23 2013 17:18 GMT
#3830
On January 24 2013 00:23 Big G wrote:

@golbat


Yeah the IK set is awesome.

Helm: 170str, 5.5%cc, +250armor

Chest: around 150str/150vit if you can afford it, otherwise around 160/90

Gloves: 170str, 9.5cc, ias or cd

Belt: 170str, 70vit (over 200str if you can), + a valuable skill bonus (bash, frenzy, weapon throw)

Boots: everything over 100str and/or 100vit is fine, depending on your needs


What's so great about the Immortal King's set? The set boni other than the +60% resists are rather marginal and every slot has a very good alternative:

Helm: Crit Mempo or Andariels Visage have a lot more damage at the cost of some survivability.

Chest: Tyrael's Might with 150+ Vitality roll

Gloves: Here you can actually get a trifecta with high str, but rares with similar stats are a lot cheaper and can also roll allresistance.

Belt: You can get Lamentations for very cheap with 250+str and vit, effectively trading the allres on the IK belt for more Str and crit chance and if you can get lifeleech on the weapons the Witching Hour with a decent strength roll boosts your dps by a lot.

Boots: Ice climbers are simply much better.
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
January 23 2013 17:47 GMT
#3831
I dont think Big G was necessarily stating to get all 5 pieces, just what to look for on any given piece of the set. The two-piece combo works quite well. The belt+helm in particular.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 23 2013 17:56 GMT
#3832
On January 23 2013 23:23 Golbat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 23:00 Big G wrote:
On January 23 2013 22:49 Golbat wrote:
I'm going to preface this by saying I have 100% no idea what I'm doing. I like the build that I'm using right now, but if I'm doing it wrong any kind of direction would be appreciated. In the mean time I'm going to go back through the thread and see what useful info I can pick out.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Golbat-1394/hero/14805533

I don't really have any money either, but an idea of what I should be saving up for would be nice.

Oh-my-god.

Ok, I'll try to stay calm.

You have half the hp you need, low resistances, almost no cc and your gear is practically worthless.

...

Then I see your helm. (insert pokerface.gif)

...

Do you know that it is worth FIVE-HUNDRED-MILLION-GOLD (on EU)?




Are you for real? That just dropped for me yesterday T.T

But besides my helm, I should look for more vitality gear instead of strength?


with selling the helmet yourself, you have enough money to build a barbarian that is capable of doing mp10 EASILY.
omg, why am i not so lucky to find such a piece of gear...
anyway...
u need to watch fucking guides on how to build babarians.
u have too low viatality, but still to low strengh as well.
u have about 0 crit chance and crit damage, ur weapon doesnt make sense.

dafuq, im running my barb for so long now and never found anything NEAR that item, yet my barb is about 10 times stronger than yours. it hurts so damn much TT
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 19:50:10
January 23 2013 19:47 GMT
#3833
On January 24 2013 02:18 Turin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 00:23 Big G wrote:

@golbat


Yeah the IK set is awesome.

Helm: 170str, 5.5%cc, +250armor

Chest: around 150str/150vit if you can afford it, otherwise around 160/90

Gloves: 170str, 9.5cc, ias or cd

Belt: 170str, 70vit (over 200str if you can), + a valuable skill bonus (bash, frenzy, weapon throw)

Boots: everything over 100str and/or 100vit is fine, depending on your needs


What's so great about the Immortal King's set? The set boni other than the +60% resists are rather marginal and every slot has a very good alternative:

Helm: Crit Mempo or Andariels Visage have a lot more damage at the cost of some survivability.

Chest: Tyrael's Might with 150+ Vitality roll

Gloves: Here you can actually get a trifecta with high str, but rares with similar stats are a lot cheaper and can also roll allresistance.

Belt: You can get Lamentations for very cheap with 250+str and vit, effectively trading the allres on the IK belt for more Str and crit chance and if you can get lifeleech on the weapons the Witching Hour with a decent strength roll boosts your dps by a lot.

Boots: Ice climbers are simply much better.


BruteMax is right, I was just suggesting a balanced and easy to find setup for Golbat but I don't necessarily recommend the whole set. The items you mention are more expensive (mempo with cc, ice climbers with ms) or just a tradeoff (more dps but less EHP for Andy, lamentation, witching hour), while being a bit harder to search for in AH.

I'm a huge fan of the set bonus though, it makes the difference in my own build (hota with sprint/marathon). Sprint/WWers don't care much.


Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 21:46:01
January 23 2013 21:43 GMT
#3834
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Golbat-1394/hero/14805533

I've gotten up to 43k HP unbuffed, 47k DPS with WW Spec, between 400-600 resists and 70% damage reduction. Most of the stuff I replaced is stuff that's dropped, besides the amulet and helmet. The Mempo hasn't sold yet as expected, but when it does I'll come back. Am I on the right track so far?

The one thing I really need is any kind of Life on Hit, but as I'm tapped out on gold ATM I'll have to wait for that one.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
January 23 2013 21:46 GMT
#3835
You're cheating, most of your strenght comes from your weapon.

A lot better than before though.

Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
January 23 2013 21:59 GMT
#3836
On January 24 2013 06:46 Big G wrote:
You're cheating, most of your strenght comes from your weapon.

A lot better than before though.


Yeah, I got super lucky with that drop.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
January 23 2013 22:37 GMT
#3837
On January 24 2013 06:59 Golbat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 06:46 Big G wrote:
You're cheating, most of your strenght comes from your weapon.

A lot better than before though.


Yeah, I got super lucky with that drop.


Are you trolling with that char or are you serious?
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
January 23 2013 23:19 GMT
#3838
On January 24 2013 07:37 Dirkinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 06:59 Golbat wrote:
On January 24 2013 06:46 Big G wrote:
You're cheating, most of your strenght comes from your weapon.

A lot better than before though.


Yeah, I got super lucky with that drop.


Are you trolling with that char or are you serious?

I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS LOOT, OKAY?
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
January 23 2013 23:37 GMT
#3839
Are you playing selffound only? If not, I would google "Budget Barb Guide"
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
January 23 2013 23:58 GMT
#3840
On January 24 2013 08:37 Dirkinity wrote:
Are you playing selffound only? If not, I would google "Budget Barb Guide"

I'm waiting for some stuff to sell, once I do I'll be pretty much completely re-fitting my character
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
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