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Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
May 24 2012 07:07 GMT
#681
I have just started inferno and can do the early parts but get wrecked by most elites especially in open terrain. Anyone have a rough idea how much damange/hp/resist I should have to get through act 1. Currently im at 25k hp with 14k damage (with a couple defensive skills).
For the Swarm * DRG *
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
May 24 2012 07:19 GMT
#682
On May 24 2012 16:07 Krossfire wrote:
I have just started inferno and can do the early parts but get wrecked by most elites especially in open terrain. Anyone have a rough idea how much damange/hp/resist I should have to get through act 1. Currently im at 25k hp with 14k damage (with a couple defensive skills).


That's pretty much the stats that i have as well and I'm doing kind of good in Act 2 solo, and i feel that Act 1 is a joke if you have the right build tbh.
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
May 24 2012 07:21 GMT
#683
On May 24 2012 16:19 xrayEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 16:07 Krossfire wrote:
I have just started inferno and can do the early parts but get wrecked by most elites especially in open terrain. Anyone have a rough idea how much damange/hp/resist I should have to get through act 1. Currently im at 25k hp with 14k damage (with a couple defensive skills).


That's pretty much the stats that i have as well and I'm doing kind of good in Act 2 solo, and i feel that Act 1 is a joke if you have the right build tbh.


What build are you using? and are you killing most elites?
For the Swarm * DRG *
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 08:17:24
May 24 2012 08:16 GMT
#684
Currently not very far in act I Inferno, I've been using the critical mass build with Venom Hydra as my DPS since Act IV hell and it's been working wonders for me; I wouldn't be too surprised if they patched it soon. What kind of runes are good for diamond skin/ frost nova? I've been working with the additional armor on diamond to better tank stuff in critical scenarios and the increased DPS for frozen enemies on nova.

Initially going into inferno i had about 1.59? attack speed with 20% crit chance and I struggled with procs at times. I soon switched to a nice dagger with a 15% atk speed boost which put me over 2.00 atkspd, and the difference is pretty astounding.

The elites I've faced seem to be pretty 'dealable' with, but I know I haven't had anything really bad yet. I've found that if you use the crit build with a lack of vit gear you really need to do some kiting for certain properties. It's pretty easy to train yourself to stutter step with living lightning and nova/shell when necessary. In case anyone's wondering, I haven't died too much and I'm still setting at about 9k life and 14k dps. I'm sure I will have plenty of trouble in the near future with the lack of vit but I'm still gearing okay ;_;

I really wish I could work in teleport into the build somehow to better deal with vortex/waller/jailer, but the only thing I can replace right now is hydra, which would wreck my dps.

On another note, how do people deal with fast/teleport with fire chain? I think it's probably like one of the worst combos around so far that I've faced.
Brockster
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany82 Posts
May 24 2012 08:21 GMT
#685
Quick question:
Does attackspeed benefit Venom Hydra? Is the hydra shooting faster then or something?
My skills right now are Venom Hydra, Ray of Frost with reduced AP cost, Blizzard with reduced cost, Diamond Skin with Crystal Shell, Energy Armor with Force Armor, Teleport with Fracture.

As of now, i dont think attackspeed would help me increase my DPS at all, since Ray of Frost is AP-neutral right now, with higher attackspeed it would just drain very fast, blizzard doesnt benefit from Attackspd as well.

Act 2 Inf, but need to step my gear up to actually play there.
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
May 24 2012 08:22 GMT
#686
On May 24 2012 16:21 Krossfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 16:19 xrayEU wrote:
On May 24 2012 16:07 Krossfire wrote:
I have just started inferno and can do the early parts but get wrecked by most elites especially in open terrain. Anyone have a rough idea how much damange/hp/resist I should have to get through act 1. Currently im at 25k hp with 14k damage (with a couple defensive skills).


That's pretty much the stats that i have as well and I'm doing kind of good in Act 2 solo, and i feel that Act 1 is a joke if you have the right build tbh.


What build are you using? and are you killing most elites?

Yesterday i was using this when i did act 1.
You are still able to use FA with DS when over 20k hp, i did actually have some trouble with butcher but i still manage to kill him quite easily with this build.
dhaKve
Profile Joined April 2010
Spain16 Posts
May 24 2012 08:22 GMT
#687
for me inmune + a tough pack is the hardest. I've been having some success after the patch by adding more vit to my gear as most of you suggested, definetely the way to go now.

How the f*** do you kill belial using the crit build? I think you can't hit him using LL.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11497 Posts
May 24 2012 09:42 GMT
#688
On May 24 2012 16:21 Krossfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 16:19 xrayEU wrote:
On May 24 2012 16:07 Krossfire wrote:
I have just started inferno and can do the early parts but get wrecked by most elites especially in open terrain. Anyone have a rough idea how much damange/hp/resist I should have to get through act 1. Currently im at 25k hp with 14k damage (with a couple defensive skills).


That's pretty much the stats that i have as well and I'm doing kind of good in Act 2 solo, and i feel that Act 1 is a joke if you have the right build tbh.


What build are you using? and are you killing most elites?


I have been using something like this

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#RcSXjO!fUX!bcZaaY

to farm stuff in act i inferno, you might want to take teleport with wormhole instead of the familiar if you don't feel confident without it. FA is mostly there to make the butcher easier by reducing those 20k hits to 8k, and avoid being oneshot by hardhitters when derping.

I am at the moment progressing through act 2 at Belial, and expect to kill belial today once i start being less stupid and stop getting hit by stuff, best try so far was 30% until i got hit by some random fireball.

On that notion, does someone know exactly how hard his shit in p2 hits? I am tempted to get a lot more vit just to be able to survive those hits with FA on to make him a joke, but i don't want to waste my time/money doing that when he hits so hard that it is impossible to achieve anyways. I know that at the moment, i am able to survive some hits, but die instantly to some of his hits, and the fireballs of course.

Also, i have an other unrelated question regarding mf. I have heard various rumours that mf is shared between the group, and/or even shared between you and you follower, which would in my case mean that the follower effectively halves my mf. Is that true? I am a bit scared at the moment to google this kind of stuff with all the hacking rumours going on, but i know that i can trust tl.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
May 24 2012 09:44 GMT
#689
On May 24 2012 17:22 xrayEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 16:21 Krossfire wrote:
On May 24 2012 16:19 xrayEU wrote:
On May 24 2012 16:07 Krossfire wrote:
I have just started inferno and can do the early parts but get wrecked by most elites especially in open terrain. Anyone have a rough idea how much damange/hp/resist I should have to get through act 1. Currently im at 25k hp with 14k damage (with a couple defensive skills).


That's pretty much the stats that i have as well and I'm doing kind of good in Act 2 solo, and i feel that Act 1 is a joke if you have the right build tbh.


What build are you using? and are you killing most elites?

Yesterday i was using this when i did act 1.
You are still able to use FA with DS when over 20k hp, i did actually have some trouble with butcher but i still manage to kill him quite easily with this build.


Alright, how do you have two defensive skills?

Omg, I've just googled it... WTF Blizzard? I'm sure there was no more obvious way to lock skills but to put it in a bloody gameplay settings.

Got to level 53 without knowing it....
nface
Profile Joined June 2011
106 Posts
May 24 2012 09:44 GMT
#690
against belial it doesnt really matter what build you use, you just need a good ranged attack and you need to be good at avoiding his attacks..
Delvin
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland141 Posts
May 24 2012 09:58 GMT
#691
Body slam and aoe phase explosions will 1-hit you through force armor @40k hp. All the fist attacks (and the breath) are fairly easily dodgeable once you learn the pattern. Teleport is very useful in the aoe phase. Hydra would be very good too so you can do damage while focusing on dodging.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
May 24 2012 10:00 GMT
#692
FA made Belial faceroll before the nerf even without 0vit gear, it was pretty ridiculous lol.
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DePHIB
Profile Joined March 2010
France72 Posts
May 24 2012 10:22 GMT
#693
Hello

I am new to Diablo and I am playing a wizard. I was going on the FA build because that seemed cool. Now I m lvl 38 in nitemare. I would like to optimize my build in order to get fast lvl 60 and start inferno

Any insight of build / gear ?

Some other question : do you use your weapon or only the spells ?

And last nnewbie question : is there a way to figure how much DPS you do with arcane orb for instance ? How are those damages calculated ? Based on intelligence ? On weapon ?

Thanks a lot

I know this is kinda newbie but any help would be much appreciated.
Hear Me Roar
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 11:17:26
May 24 2012 10:55 GMT
#694
On May 24 2012 16:07 Krossfire wrote:
I have just started inferno and can do the early parts but get wrecked by most elites especially in open terrain. Anyone have a rough idea how much damange/hp/resist I should have to get through act 1. Currently im at 25k hp with 14k damage (with a couple defensive skills).

I did the whole Act I (up to Butcher boss) with a little over 6k HP 26k DPS after the FA nerf, with this build http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#YcXOSQ!XfU!aYaYZZ. I really like this build and used it throughout hell. There's 3 ways to get out of bad situations, diamond skin, teleport, and frost nova. Then you just kite with orb. Oh yeah and get +12% movement boots, the game is just not the same without them.

It was only at Butcher that I got some vit gear lol. Haven't started Act II yet.
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
May 24 2012 11:53 GMT
#695
act1 inferno is super ez, i nvr die, unless its some op elites b4 boss
after doing alot of a1 runs, the rares from a1 just arn't that good, im gonna go for a2 and a3
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 12:04:26
May 24 2012 12:01 GMT
#696
Okay, so I've been going over to a never-get-hit kiting based build, and it's working pretty well. Had some trouble with one-shotting ranged attacks, but Slow Time is pretty useful to block it. (I use Miasma as it becomes pretty multi-purpose with that)

...only problem is Fast/Teleporter rares/champions... >.>
PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
May 24 2012 12:08 GMT
#697
On May 24 2012 21:01 HaXXspetten wrote:
Okay, so I've been going over to a never-get-hit kiting based build, and it's working pretty well. Had some trouble with one-shotting ranged attacks, but Slow Time is pretty useful to block it. (I use Miasma as it becomes pretty multi-purpose with that)

...only problem is Fast/Teleporter rares/champions... >.>


Was thinking about the same kind of build. I'm usually not that bad at kiting and evading attacks. But there are still a lot of instances where you just can't avoid it and I wonder how you're supposed to be able to deal with that.

As you mentioned Fast/Teleporter/Vortex can be quite hard to deal with. Also the first Aspect (+ Show Spoiler +
the one from Leah
) in Act 4 on Inferno. This one vanishes and always spawns directly besides you and has attack speed like crazy and he hit me for 88k yesterday... there's no way to avoid his first attack unless you get a lucky dodge.

Also thinking about pushing more armor, using the +40% resistance energy armor and using a shield instead of a 2h.
I has a flavor
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 12:13:12
May 24 2012 12:10 GMT
#698
Inferno act I is easy as shit with the crit mass build, however Act II they just hit right through Diamond skin, I have been using an arcane orb/Venom hydra/flux build but I keep getting killed by Fast/leapers(white ones too), anyone got anything better?

I have 40k hp but I just get 2-3shot basically.
WriterXiao8~~
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 24 2012 12:14 GMT
#699
tbh, i am using the crit build to farm in act 1 but in act 2 im just gona use the kite build. Worst case scenario just turn on teleport with the illusionist passive and run through everything.

btw, what is the beliah attack patterns? i cant really tell how the AoE works.... the fist is fine though
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
May 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#700
On May 24 2012 21:10 Kipsate wrote:
Inferno act I is easy as shit with the crit mass build, however Act II they just hit right through Diamond skin, I have been using an arcane orb/Venom hydra/flux build but I keep getting killed by Fast/leapers(white ones too), anyone got anything better?

I have 40k hp but I just get 2-3shot basically.


Yeah i skipped all those leaper champs yesterday, they are really fast even without the fast attribute (if I'm thinking of the right mob).
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