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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 08 2014 06:59 GMT
#4941
Not to mention AR gems are much more efficient in terms of value per affix than Int ones.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-08 10:10:54
April 08 2014 10:02 GMT
#4942
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ChilliOil-1790/hero/45284713

what should i try to gamble or upgrade for next? is mirrorball better?

still trying to reroll the ammy for the CC but ran out of gold. then going to replace the low tier gems. but not sure where to go from here.

i'm at 800k/6.2m buffed
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 08 2014 10:33 GMT
#4943
On April 08 2014 15:59 BluzMan wrote:
Not to mention AR gems are much more efficient in terms of value per affix than Int ones.

Int gems are better than AR on softcore. At max level, an int gem is 36% the resist of a AR gem. Considering that 280 int, even at max level is ~3-4% DPS, there's no reason to gem AR on an int class unless you're playing HC and need all the survivability you can get. You can get roughly the same value as an all resist affix, while simultaneously adding 840int.
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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
April 08 2014 11:31 GMT
#4944
On April 08 2014 19:02 Doraemon wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ChilliOil-1790/hero/45284713

what should i try to gamble or upgrade for next? is mirrorball better?

still trying to reroll the ammy for the CC but ran out of gold. then going to replace the low tier gems. but not sure where to go from here.

i'm at 800k/6.2m buffed


I like the mirrorball since glacial spike gets really powerful if you're running cold build with +%cold dmg on gear.

Can you reroll cc when you got cd? I've blown millions trying and I'm starting to feel you can't have that much bad luck.

Also, yesterday I noticed I had +42% movement speed -__-
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-08 11:45:39
April 08 2014 11:45 GMT
#4945
On April 08 2014 19:33 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 15:59 BluzMan wrote:
Not to mention AR gems are much more efficient in terms of value per affix than Int ones.

Int gems are better than AR on softcore. At max level, an int gem is 36% the resist of a AR gem. Considering that 280 int, even at max level is ~3-4% DPS, there's no reason to gem AR on an int class unless you're playing HC and need all the survivability you can get. You can get roughly the same value as an all resist affix, while simultaneously adding 840int.


That depends on the viewpoint.

Diamond gives you 78 AR which is 78% of what you can get with the same affix on body armor.
Topaz gives you 280 int which is 56% of what you can get with the same affix on body armor.

It's even more pronounced in damage slots (where you can have 750 maximum mainstat compared to 500), but gems are not worth it in them since only one socket.

Assuming you need both stats equally (this assumpion is key here, in other words, if you seek to maximize your "power" which is toughness * DPS), diamonds are better since they "free up" more stats/affixes on other pieces of gear to swap for damage. People on SC though seek to maximize their DPS while keeping an acceptable level of toughness, so mainstat gems might actually be worthwhile that way.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
April 08 2014 12:21 GMT
#4946
On April 08 2014 20:31 Arevall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:02 Doraemon wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ChilliOil-1790/hero/45284713

what should i try to gamble or upgrade for next? is mirrorball better?

still trying to reroll the ammy for the CC but ran out of gold. then going to replace the low tier gems. but not sure where to go from here.

i'm at 800k/6.2m buffed


I like the mirrorball since glacial spike gets really powerful if you're running cold build with +%cold dmg on gear.

Can you reroll cc when you got cd? I've blown millions trying and I'm starting to feel you can't have that much bad luck.

Also, yesterday I noticed I had +42% movement speed -__-


Mirrorball is absolutely lethal when combined with Conflagrate.
You burn through all monsters very rapidly for high damage.
Once I got my Mirrorball I switched to pure Fire damage and I'm blazing through everything.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Thez-1901/hero/114546
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 08 2014 12:27 GMT
#4947
TBH it doesn't really matter which Missile you use, because as far as I'm aware, the main draw of Mirrorball is how the missiles proc Prodigy individually (at least from my testing when I first got mine), making a +2 Mirrorball a better AP generator than Electrocute.
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 08 2014 13:29 GMT
#4948
On April 08 2014 20:31 Arevall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:02 Doraemon wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ChilliOil-1790/hero/45284713

what should i try to gamble or upgrade for next? is mirrorball better?

still trying to reroll the ammy for the CC but ran out of gold. then going to replace the low tier gems. but not sure where to go from here.

i'm at 800k/6.2m buffed


I like the mirrorball since glacial spike gets really powerful if you're running cold build with +%cold dmg on gear.

Can you reroll cc when you got cd? I've blown millions trying and I'm starting to feel you can't have that much bad luck.

Also, yesterday I noticed I had +42% movement speed -__-


i dunno...it showed that i can roll CC in the enchant "?" so i assume you could? :S

so i guess try and upgrade offhand? any other recommendation?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
April 08 2014 14:25 GMT
#4949
On April 08 2014 19:33 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 15:59 BluzMan wrote:
Not to mention AR gems are much more efficient in terms of value per affix than Int ones.

Int gems are better than AR on softcore. At max level, an int gem is 36% the resist of a AR gem. Considering that 280 int, even at max level is ~3-4% DPS, there's no reason to gem AR on an int class unless you're playing HC and need all the survivability you can get. You can get roughly the same value as an all resist affix, while simultaneously adding 840int.


My experience generally concurs with this. I am sitting on 260 paragon lvls atm, and find diamond a lot less efficient than topaz. For my barb diamond completely trumps ruby though.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
April 08 2014 14:33 GMT
#4950
Is the Cosmic Strand worth crafting now that teleport is getting buffed? Just found the plan for it yesterday.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 08 2014 15:05 GMT
#4951
On April 08 2014 21:27 TheYango wrote:
TBH it doesn't really matter which Missile you use, because as far as I'm aware, the main draw of Mirrorball is how the missiles proc Prodigy individually (at least from my testing when I first got mine), making a +2 Mirrorball a better AP generator than Electrocute.


Agreed. The way generators and spenders are now, a good spender will still outdps a mirrorballed magic missile. I've been trying to get a mirrorball with 2 missiles to use conflagrate because I'm running elemental affinity. But my main plan for it is still to get the missiles to proc prodigy.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
April 08 2014 15:11 GMT
#4952
On April 08 2014 21:21 Thezzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 20:31 Arevall wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:02 Doraemon wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ChilliOil-1790/hero/45284713

what should i try to gamble or upgrade for next? is mirrorball better?

still trying to reroll the ammy for the CC but ran out of gold. then going to replace the low tier gems. but not sure where to go from here.

i'm at 800k/6.2m buffed


I like the mirrorball since glacial spike gets really powerful if you're running cold build with +%cold dmg on gear.

Can you reroll cc when you got cd? I've blown millions trying and I'm starting to feel you can't have that much bad luck.

Also, yesterday I noticed I had +42% movement speed -__-


Mirrorball is absolutely lethal when combined with Conflagrate.
You burn through all monsters very rapidly for high damage.
Once I got my Mirrorball I switched to pure Fire damage and I'm blazing through everything.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Thez-1901/hero/114546

wow, this might be the best fire build for wizards. this is cool news for me since i found tons of great int fire damage gear the past few days and dont know what to do with it since most fire skills on wizards suck and im no fan of firebats on wds. (for example, i found a 20% fire dam cindercoat with high int, vit and 3 sockets.)

now i need to gamble for a mirrorball
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 08 2014 16:09 GMT
#4953
The other advantage of Conflagrate MM even for FOrb builds is that it does more instances of damage (pass-through +DoT) so with high crit you proc APoC more so you're just getting more orbs.

The damage difference is not the deciding factor IMO. If you run Glacial, its for the added safety of having the freeze. If you run Conflagrate, its for the better AP management.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 08 2014 22:16 GMT
#4954
Patch live. FOrb nerfs. Anyone actually played with it yet? It doesn't sound as terrible as I expected them to do, but I might be underestimating how big the old bonus damage AoE was. Just sounds like you need a little more control now?
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
April 08 2014 22:22 GMT
#4955
What frustrates me most is how Blizzard doesn't have the backbone to admit that it's a nerf and not a "bug fix". How could you possibly fix an AoE spell by no longer making it AoE? It was a nerf, plain and simple.

Anyway, I dislike how Blizzard constantly forces players to change their playstyle and drop items they spent months searching for. I think I've had enough of D3.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 08 2014 22:27 GMT
#4956
On April 09 2014 07:22 Masheyoon wrote:
What frustrates me most is how Blizzard doesn't have the backbone to admit that it's a nerf and not a "bug fix". How could you possibly fix an AoE spell by no longer making it AoE? It was a nerf, plain and simple.

Anyway, I dislike how Blizzard constantly forces players to change their playstyle and drop items they spent months searching for. I think I've had enough of D3.

overly dramatic? its still aoe, they fixed the bug/nerfed the radius. FO builds are still viable.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
April 08 2014 22:38 GMT
#4957
On April 09 2014 07:27 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 07:22 Masheyoon wrote:
What frustrates me most is how Blizzard doesn't have the backbone to admit that it's a nerf and not a "bug fix". How could you possibly fix an AoE spell by no longer making it AoE? It was a nerf, plain and simple.

Anyway, I dislike how Blizzard constantly forces players to change their playstyle and drop items they spent months searching for. I think I've had enough of D3.

overly dramatic? its still aoe, they fixed the bug/nerfed the radius. FO builds are still viable.


I haven't played it myself since the game is apparently still unavailable, but people on Battle.net forums have been claiming that it now has pitiful AoE.

I guess I shouldn't overreact before trying it myself, but considering how badly they nerfed barbs, you can't blame me.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 08 2014 22:46 GMT
#4958
On April 09 2014 07:38 Masheyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 07:27 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2014 07:22 Masheyoon wrote:
What frustrates me most is how Blizzard doesn't have the backbone to admit that it's a nerf and not a "bug fix". How could you possibly fix an AoE spell by no longer making it AoE? It was a nerf, plain and simple.

Anyway, I dislike how Blizzard constantly forces players to change their playstyle and drop items they spent months searching for. I think I've had enough of D3.

overly dramatic? its still aoe, they fixed the bug/nerfed the radius. FO builds are still viable.


I haven't played it myself since the game is apparently still unavailable, but people on Battle.net forums have been claiming that it now has pitiful AoE.

I guess I shouldn't overreact before trying it myself, but considering how badly they nerfed barbs, you can't blame me.

what do the people on battle.net NOT complain about? werent half the threads on battle.net previous to this patch threads about FO builds being too strong?
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
April 08 2014 23:06 GMT
#4959
On April 09 2014 07:38 Masheyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 07:27 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2014 07:22 Masheyoon wrote:
What frustrates me most is how Blizzard doesn't have the backbone to admit that it's a nerf and not a "bug fix". How could you possibly fix an AoE spell by no longer making it AoE? It was a nerf, plain and simple.

Anyway, I dislike how Blizzard constantly forces players to change their playstyle and drop items they spent months searching for. I think I've had enough of D3.

overly dramatic? its still aoe, they fixed the bug/nerfed the radius. FO builds are still viable.


I haven't played it myself since the game is apparently still unavailable, but people on Battle.net forums have been claiming that it now has pitiful AoE.

I guess I shouldn't overreact before trying it myself, but considering how badly they nerfed barbs, you can't blame me.


They're dumb. FO still imba.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-08 23:08:28
April 08 2014 23:08 GMT
#4960
wizards should try out other spells. frozen orb is not all that the class has to offer, far from it.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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