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On July 17 2012 22:31 EntertainMe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 22:12 serum321 wrote:On July 16 2012 12:04 wintergt wrote:On July 15 2012 20:28 justiceknight wrote: can any1 screenshot their super tank DH? i am sick of dying already and still cant farm A3 at all with 70k dps 24k hp 200 AR. Do you mean the pure tank DH build I have been posting about, or just a tanky DPS? I can put some screens of my setup if you like but you'll have to regear completely if you are glass-cannon now. It's not that expensive to get going but if you want to prevent dying in act 3 with it you'll have to drop quite a bit. On July 16 2012 02:03 tuho12345 wrote:On July 16 2012 00:56 Christopah wrote:I need some help with gearing myself back up, i'm running act 3 farm runs and i'm only having problems with shadowbeast packs and some of the faster mobs with fast shit, i'm running with the korean build that was posted here post ias nerf. Basically I want the biggest DPS boost possible, and curious if for example a 1350 dps bow/xbox with 150+ dex would boost my dps alot compared to my current bow. Current SS dps is stuck at 156k hope for some response! edit: i'm fine with playing a glasscannonish dh ![[image loading]](http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o545/Christopah/currentgear1507.png) know why you have problem with fast mobs? your chest and quiver don't have max disc. Now get rid of both and buy 2 of them with max disc 9-10. Then you can spam SS or gloom much better. This, you need atleast one source with +disc, preferably two, and also your crit% is too low considering how much critdmg you have. Don't blindly stare at the SS dps, it won't increase if you get more crit% but your normal dps does. Another thing, you're looking at spending mil+ per upgrade, so might aswell get your emerald maxed out for 20% more critdmg. But how much are radiant stars going for? flawless stars are almost 3m so I'd imagine radiants are ~10m. For 10m he can add 20% crit damage and a bunch of other nice stats in his rings. You skipped Perfect Star after Flawless Star and before Radiant Star!  Because he said go from 80 > 100 crit damage.
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On July 17 2012 22:32 sCuMBaG wrote: you can get flawless stars for abou 2m to 2.1m
if you want some, PM me On NA SC? That probably won't even cover cost.
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On July 17 2012 20:41 justiceknight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 12:04 wintergt wrote:On July 15 2012 20:28 justiceknight wrote: can any1 screenshot their super tank DH? i am sick of dying already and still cant farm A3 at all with 70k dps 24k hp 200 AR. Do you mean the pure tank DH build I have been posting about, or just a tanky DPS? I can put some screens of my setup if you like but you'll have to regear completely if you are glass-cannon now. It's not that expensive to get going but if you want to prevent dying in act 3 with it you'll have to drop quite a bit. On July 16 2012 02:03 tuho12345 wrote:On July 16 2012 00:56 Christopah wrote:I need some help with gearing myself back up, i'm running act 3 farm runs and i'm only having problems with shadowbeast packs and some of the faster mobs with fast shit, i'm running with the korean build that was posted here post ias nerf. Basically I want the biggest DPS boost possible, and curious if for example a 1350 dps bow/xbox with 150+ dex would boost my dps alot compared to my current bow. Current SS dps is stuck at 156k hope for some response! edit: i'm fine with playing a glasscannonish dh ![[image loading]](http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o545/Christopah/currentgear1507.png) know why you have problem with fast mobs? your chest and quiver don't have max disc. Now get rid of both and buy 2 of them with max disc 9-10. Then you can spam SS or gloom much better. This, you need atleast one source with +disc, preferably two, and also your crit% is too low considering how much critdmg you have. Don't blindly stare at the SS dps, it won't increase if you get more crit% but your normal dps does. Another thing, you're looking at spending mil+ per upgrade, so might aswell get your emerald maxed out for 20% more critdmg. if possible post both tanky DH and tanky dps so i can decide myself later  Here is my DH tank stats and gear.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dI5SV.jpg)
You are almost immortal vs melee and bosses, what will give you trouble are the ranged elites at the end of act 3 and in act 4 because they move out of caltrops. The amulet cost me 2.6m, the rest of my gear is <1m so there is still a lot of room for upgrades, but I'm working on my MF and DPS set now. And don't be fooled by the low DPS number, you can kill everything quite fast as long as they don't run away too much.
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On July 18 2012 00:43 serum321 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 22:31 EntertainMe wrote:On July 17 2012 22:12 serum321 wrote:On July 16 2012 12:04 wintergt wrote:On July 15 2012 20:28 justiceknight wrote: can any1 screenshot their super tank DH? i am sick of dying already and still cant farm A3 at all with 70k dps 24k hp 200 AR. Do you mean the pure tank DH build I have been posting about, or just a tanky DPS? I can put some screens of my setup if you like but you'll have to regear completely if you are glass-cannon now. It's not that expensive to get going but if you want to prevent dying in act 3 with it you'll have to drop quite a bit. On July 16 2012 02:03 tuho12345 wrote:On July 16 2012 00:56 Christopah wrote:I need some help with gearing myself back up, i'm running act 3 farm runs and i'm only having problems with shadowbeast packs and some of the faster mobs with fast shit, i'm running with the korean build that was posted here post ias nerf. Basically I want the biggest DPS boost possible, and curious if for example a 1350 dps bow/xbox with 150+ dex would boost my dps alot compared to my current bow. Current SS dps is stuck at 156k hope for some response! edit: i'm fine with playing a glasscannonish dh ![[image loading]](http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o545/Christopah/currentgear1507.png) know why you have problem with fast mobs? your chest and quiver don't have max disc. Now get rid of both and buy 2 of them with max disc 9-10. Then you can spam SS or gloom much better. This, you need atleast one source with +disc, preferably two, and also your crit% is too low considering how much critdmg you have. Don't blindly stare at the SS dps, it won't increase if you get more crit% but your normal dps does. Another thing, you're looking at spending mil+ per upgrade, so might aswell get your emerald maxed out for 20% more critdmg. But how much are radiant stars going for? flawless stars are almost 3m so I'd imagine radiants are ~10m. For 10m he can add 20% crit damage and a bunch of other nice stats in his rings. You skipped Perfect Star after Flawless Star and before Radiant Star!  Because he said go from 80 > 100 crit damage.
"I'd imagine radiants are ~10m." If "Flawless Stars are almost 3m"... and you need 3 flawless stars for 1 perfect star... and 3 perfect star for 1 radiant...
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Like I said, you skipped Perfect Star.
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On July 18 2012 01:44 EntertainMe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:43 serum321 wrote:On July 17 2012 22:31 EntertainMe wrote:On July 17 2012 22:12 serum321 wrote:On July 16 2012 12:04 wintergt wrote:On July 15 2012 20:28 justiceknight wrote: can any1 screenshot their super tank DH? i am sick of dying already and still cant farm A3 at all with 70k dps 24k hp 200 AR. Do you mean the pure tank DH build I have been posting about, or just a tanky DPS? I can put some screens of my setup if you like but you'll have to regear completely if you are glass-cannon now. It's not that expensive to get going but if you want to prevent dying in act 3 with it you'll have to drop quite a bit. On July 16 2012 02:03 tuho12345 wrote:On July 16 2012 00:56 Christopah wrote:I need some help with gearing myself back up, i'm running act 3 farm runs and i'm only having problems with shadowbeast packs and some of the faster mobs with fast shit, i'm running with the korean build that was posted here post ias nerf. Basically I want the biggest DPS boost possible, and curious if for example a 1350 dps bow/xbox with 150+ dex would boost my dps alot compared to my current bow. Current SS dps is stuck at 156k hope for some response! edit: i'm fine with playing a glasscannonish dh ![[image loading]](http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o545/Christopah/currentgear1507.png) know why you have problem with fast mobs? your chest and quiver don't have max disc. Now get rid of both and buy 2 of them with max disc 9-10. Then you can spam SS or gloom much better. This, you need atleast one source with +disc, preferably two, and also your crit% is too low considering how much critdmg you have. Don't blindly stare at the SS dps, it won't increase if you get more crit% but your normal dps does. Another thing, you're looking at spending mil+ per upgrade, so might aswell get your emerald maxed out for 20% more critdmg. But how much are radiant stars going for? flawless stars are almost 3m so I'd imagine radiants are ~10m. For 10m he can add 20% crit damage and a bunch of other nice stats in his rings. You skipped Perfect Star after Flawless Star and before Radiant Star!  Because he said go from 80 > 100 crit damage. "I'd imagine radiants are ~10m." If "Flawless Stars are almost 3m"... and you need 3 flawless stars for 1 perfect star... and 3 perfect star for 1 radiant... ... Like I said, you skipped Perfect Star.
Doh, into the price, you're right. But that makes my case stronger in that you could get two uber rings with an additional 20 crit damage if you had ~30m to drop.
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holyshit found nats boots with 116 dex. it's been a loong time since i found something i'm gonna use myself :D
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On July 18 2012 01:52 serum321 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 01:44 EntertainMe wrote:On July 18 2012 00:43 serum321 wrote:On July 17 2012 22:31 EntertainMe wrote:On July 17 2012 22:12 serum321 wrote:On July 16 2012 12:04 wintergt wrote:On July 15 2012 20:28 justiceknight wrote: can any1 screenshot their super tank DH? i am sick of dying already and still cant farm A3 at all with 70k dps 24k hp 200 AR. Do you mean the pure tank DH build I have been posting about, or just a tanky DPS? I can put some screens of my setup if you like but you'll have to regear completely if you are glass-cannon now. It's not that expensive to get going but if you want to prevent dying in act 3 with it you'll have to drop quite a bit. On July 16 2012 02:03 tuho12345 wrote:On July 16 2012 00:56 Christopah wrote:I need some help with gearing myself back up, i'm running act 3 farm runs and i'm only having problems with shadowbeast packs and some of the faster mobs with fast shit, i'm running with the korean build that was posted here post ias nerf. Basically I want the biggest DPS boost possible, and curious if for example a 1350 dps bow/xbox with 150+ dex would boost my dps alot compared to my current bow. Current SS dps is stuck at 156k hope for some response! edit: i'm fine with playing a glasscannonish dh ![[image loading]](http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o545/Christopah/currentgear1507.png) know why you have problem with fast mobs? your chest and quiver don't have max disc. Now get rid of both and buy 2 of them with max disc 9-10. Then you can spam SS or gloom much better. This, you need atleast one source with +disc, preferably two, and also your crit% is too low considering how much critdmg you have. Don't blindly stare at the SS dps, it won't increase if you get more crit% but your normal dps does. Another thing, you're looking at spending mil+ per upgrade, so might aswell get your emerald maxed out for 20% more critdmg. But how much are radiant stars going for? flawless stars are almost 3m so I'd imagine radiants are ~10m. For 10m he can add 20% crit damage and a bunch of other nice stats in his rings. You skipped Perfect Star after Flawless Star and before Radiant Star!  Because he said go from 80 > 100 crit damage. "I'd imagine radiants are ~10m." If "Flawless Stars are almost 3m"... and you need 3 flawless stars for 1 perfect star... and 3 perfect star for 1 radiant... ... Like I said, you skipped Perfect Star. Doh, into the price, you're right. But that makes my case stronger in that you could get two uber rings with an additional 20 crit damage if you had ~30m to drop. Yes I made a mistake when I gave that advice, I had the wrong prices in my head, Emeralds are super expensive, on EU the radiant star is 21m. That is too steep, bur he can consider making the perfect star, as he already has a flawless star (if he knows someone he can trust that can craft it for him). Such a gem is never wasted, is my philosophy. But do the more obvious upgrades first, and when you have to shop in the 10m+ categories, you can upgrade it once.
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I'm thinking of scrapping my geared out WW barb and making a demon hunter, I'm wondering if anyone can hook me up with the best spec for farming Act 3. I'll have around 300-400m available to me to spend, preferably looking to use a crossbox/xbow with decent survability, high dmg, and good sustain through loh/ls.
Basically what I'm looking for is some gearing and build tips from those DH's with act 3 on farm status.
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On July 18 2012 09:56 Regulate140 wrote: I'm thinking of scrapping my geared out WW barb and making a demon hunter, I'm wondering if anyone can hook me up with the best spec for farming Act 3. I'll have around 300-400m available to me to spend, preferably looking to use a crossbox/xbow with decent survability, high dmg, and good sustain through loh/ls.
Basically what I'm looking for is some gearing and build tips from those DH's with act 3 on farm status.
With that budget, u can just go pure dps demonhunter and do cydea+azmo runs in prob 10-15 mins. Do you need gear advice or skill setup? Either way, you can add me on bnet (TheMango#1573) and i'll help you out.
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also, a top end WW barb is just as strong as demon hunter for farming, I wouldnt expect that much of an improvement in terms of farming efficiency. You kill stuff a little slower with WW barb, but you can run past white mobs which makes up for it. I think DH outshines WW barb if you go MF+dps, but you will need more than 300 mill for a good setup.
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Plz help me what kind of build I can go against diablo inferno. I'm currently 90k dps w/o SS, may be to 100k in a few days after upgrade my xbow and rings. Also 27-28k HP with 200+ AR.
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On July 18 2012 12:57 tuho12345 wrote: Plz help me what kind of build I can go against diablo inferno. I'm currently 90k dps w/o SS, may be to 100k in a few days after upgrade my xbow and rings. Also 27-28k HP with 200+ AR. How did you get to that gear level without beating diablo inferno? :p
Anyway, smoke screen, prep, hungering arrow are as standard as they get. Add a hatred spender of choice. For the last two slots, consider marked for death, bat companion, stun rain or stun impale (stuns picked mainly for the clone in the shadow realm if you prefer to deal with them that way, not necessary though). Could use stun impale as hatred spender if you wanna get both in one. For passives, get Tactical Advantage and two dps passives. If you dont feel you have enough disc to avoid all his attacks with smoke screen you might consider TA, 1 dps passive and the disc cost reduction passive.
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Get gloom to quickly burst down the shadow clones (you can try to use SS too but it is shorter in duration), because they will oneshot you with your setup. Phase 1 and 3 are all tactics, kiting around the crystal makes that he can't hit you. And even if he does, SS and walk off.
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beaware when doing diablo that he ONLY ports if you are close to the edges. Everytime your near an edge he teleports on you. This made it a gazillion times easier after I knew that
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Hey TL community!
It's been a while since I've been on this site and I remember people being more knowledgable on here than on the blizz forums (for sc2 anyways) so was wondering if maybe i could get some help optimizing my equipment!
My Equipment:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/gearscreenshot.jpg/
My Details Tab:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/detailsx.jpg/
Current Build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#fShXVP!aTg!bcbZcc
Should i be getting a higher crit chance? Sorry I had Sharpshooter on in the image! I'm currently at 27.5% crit chance. If so, what should I be sacrificing in order to do so?
I seem to have hit a wall in Act 3 and any help would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance
EDIT: people have questioned the build im using, but it's korean approved and im sure alot of you already know of it! some guy was melting a3 elites with it!! im tryin it and its actually fun to play with! but im open to suggestions bout a build that is known to work better with a bow/lower crit chance if you have suggestions!
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On July 19 2012 10:37 GeeRobb wrote:Hey TL community! It's been a while since I've been on this site and I remember people being more knowledgable on here than on the blizz forums (for sc2 anyways) so was wondering if maybe i could get some help optimizing my equipment! My Equipment: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/gearscreenshot.jpg/My Details Tab: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/detailsx.jpg/Current Build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#fShXVP!aTg!bcbZccShould i be getting a higher crit chance? Sorry I had Sharpshooter on in the image! I'm currently at 27.5% crit chance. If so, what should I be sacrificing in order to do so? I seem to have hit a wall in Act 3 and any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance EDIT: people have questioned the build im using, but it's korean approved and im sure alot of you already know of it! some guy was melting a3 elites with it!! im tryin it and its actually fun to play with! but im open to suggestions bout a build that is known to work better with a bow/lower crit chance if you have suggestions!
Increase DPS by getting a bow or crossbow with a socket. You only have 21k life so get more vit / helm with a socket. Glass cannon DH isn't popular b/c you can actually build a decent DH without dying every few seconds given the gear that's out there on the AH. Your legendary ring doesn't do much except give you dex - you can get two of atk speed/crit chance/crit dmg with dex/a socket. You're getting a lot of dex but those 3 modifiers also raise ur DPS. Try using a DPS calculator to see what you can switch out for potentially more DPS.
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In the weapons preference for DH, most of the votes go to 2H Crossbow+Quiver rather than Double 1H Crossbow.
I noticed, if you have 2 crossbows, you have more damage. What could be the explanation? Why do people prefer the 2H Crossbow+ Quiver?
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On July 19 2012 18:38 Discarder wrote: In the weapons preference for DH, most of the votes go to 2H Crossbow+Quiver rather than Double 1H Crossbow.
I noticed, if you have 2 crossbows, you have more damage. What could be the explanation? Why do people prefer the 2H Crossbow+ Quiver?
Few reasons:
1. The inherent attack speed from a quiver nullifies the advantage you usually get from dual wielding.
2. Hatred, seeing as it regenerates over time more significantly than per attack, doesn't scale well with higher attack speeds.
3. In order to get a 1h crossbow that provides better advantages than a quiver, you need not only better stats, but also very high DPS.
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Demonhunters!
Im not a DH myself, but I wonder if and what you look for in quivers from the AH. Its really hard to set a price on one when you dont play a lvl60 DH yourself. Tnx in advance
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On July 19 2012 20:32 ihasaKAROT wrote:Demonhunters! Im not a DH myself, but I wonder if and what you look for in quivers from the AH. Its really hard to set a price on one when you dont play a lvl60 DH yourself. Tnx in advance  definitely crit strike, at least 7%+, max disc, and Vit/dex/life% or a mixture depending on what build we wanna use. Hungering arrow/ele arrow damage increase would be great as well, but not compulsory. I aim for 14-15% atk speed also
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