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D3 Opening Cinematic Released

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inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 01:19:03
December 11 2011 04:28 GMT
#1
This was just posted in the Diablo 3 general thread but I can't imagine anyone but the most dedicated D3 followers are still checking that very often so I thought this deserved a thread of it's own.



I really like the style of this cinematic although I've been told parts of it look to be inspired heavily from Guild Wars 2.

Enjoy!

I have a lot of D3 stuff on my youtube channel so feel free to check it out and subscribe if you're interested in seeing high level PvP with commentary when release comes!

http://www.youtube.com/user/lolrofllolDOTcom
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
December 11 2011 04:35 GMT
#2
There's one more.

Black Soulstone Cinematic
Mew Mew Pew Pew
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
December 11 2011 04:38 GMT
#3
That's a bit older, from Blizzcon, this one was just released tonight!
Soreas
Profile Joined June 2010
France17 Posts
December 11 2011 04:49 GMT
#4
SO BEAUTIFUL!Diablo 3 im waiting for you when you want!
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 11 2011 04:53 GMT
#5
Beautiful cinematic. I loved it.
operwolf
Profile Joined April 2008
United States324 Posts
December 11 2011 04:54 GMT
#6
OMG that was fucking awesome! I can hardly wait for this to come out!
He'll end up dead, because he'll die.
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
December 11 2011 05:00 GMT
#7
RELEASE THE RELEASE DATE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
December 11 2011 05:00 GMT
#8
That was a bit cheesy, but you if the gameplay is good, I won't mind too much.

Also, the meteor is obviously Diablo. I mean, who else would be crashing the old Tristram church than him?
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
December 11 2011 05:02 GMT
#9
Could be one of the Angels falling.
EEhantiming
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada519 Posts
December 11 2011 05:07 GMT
#10
my body is ready
emesen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States256 Posts
December 11 2011 05:43 GMT
#11
yeah the opening half of the cinematic with the animated drawings reminded me a lot of a guild wars 2 trailer

i might be alone in this but i didn't particularly like the intro cinematic... i felt the beginning half's action and feeling of "epicness" was dulled down by the use of stylized art even when animated... had it started off witht he drawings and evolved into full blown CGI i think woulda worked better...

the second half of the intro was bland...

and I really couldn't put my finger on why I didn't like this cinematic as a whole until just now... and i blame it on blizzard for releasing the cinematics out of order... watching this after already having seen the Black Soulstone movie diminishes this one's effectiveness... maybe that's just me
may the best of your todays, be the worst of your tomorrows
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 11 2011 06:03 GMT
#12
I wish this was 120 minutes long.
KTY
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
December 11 2011 06:23 GMT
#13
On December 11 2011 14:43 emesen wrote:
yeah the opening half of the cinematic with the animated drawings reminded me a lot of a guild wars 2 trailer

i might be alone in this but i didn't particularly like the intro cinematic... i felt the beginning half's action and feeling of "epicness" was dulled down by the use of stylized art even when animated... had it started off witht he drawings and evolved into full blown CGI i think woulda worked better...

the second half of the intro was bland...

and I really couldn't put my finger on why I didn't like this cinematic as a whole until just now... and i blame it on blizzard for releasing the cinematics out of order... watching this after already having seen the Black Soulstone movie diminishes this one's effectiveness... maybe that's just me

These D3 cinematics all have this full blown war and apocalypse feeling whereas in D2 it was like a creepy horror movie of sorts.

And am I the only one that's bothered by the script? Everything they say sounds really cheesy. And why is Leah shaking her ass so sexily while walking?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 11 2011 06:38 GMT
#14
Blizzard really is the king of CG.
Epic as always, everytime one of these gets released you wish there was a movie about it.
Still hyped as hell about D3, and this sure made it even more so
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 08:35:16
December 11 2011 08:30 GMT
#15
Blizzard just one upped Guild Wars 2. The part where the crow flew off into smoke and hundreds of burning angles were falling off a cloud was fantastic.

I do notice that when Diablo burst from the ground they borrowed the animation of the frost wyrm breaking out of the ice from the WotLK cinematic.
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
December 11 2011 08:32 GMT
#16
Here is a link that works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9mUe5vHYzs
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
December 11 2011 08:33 GMT
#17

On December 11 2011 14:43 emesen wrote:
And why is Leah shaking her ass so sexily while walking?


You made me watch the video again
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
December 11 2011 08:36 GMT
#18
On December 11 2011 15:03 Xxio wrote:
I wish this was 120 minutes long.


Be realistic, let's hope it could be 90 mins at least...
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
December 11 2011 09:19 GMT
#19
So amazingly excited for this already and now even more so after watching the intro video. Release already ... or at least beta invite!
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
December 11 2011 09:25 GMT
#20
Blocked... which is dumb. Say byebye to free advertising.
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
December 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#21
On December 11 2011 17:33 eleaf wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 14:43 emesen wrote:
And why is Leah shaking her ass so sexily while walking?


You made me watch the video again



Same here...too bad it was a disappointment
<3 Moonbattles
SpectreSOF
Profile Joined July 2010
United States74 Posts
December 11 2011 10:05 GMT
#22
I would love to see the "Making of..." behind this intro cinematic.
The road to victory is a path paved with blood and corpses
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
December 11 2011 10:33 GMT
#23
this is the most terrible torture i am going through right now
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
December 11 2011 10:34 GMT
#24
btw, leah is pretty hot.
POGGERS
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
December 11 2011 12:03 GMT
#25
"UNNCLLLLLLLLE!"

lol
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
December 11 2011 12:13 GMT
#26
I really wanted the release date. The cinematic was awesome, but even better would have been the release date.

I cant wait for the 25 mins of cinematics that should be in the game.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
December 11 2011 12:26 GMT
#27
that girl has some seriously messed up dreams
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 11 2011 12:34 GMT
#28
Old man needs a babysitter,only thing he is good at is getting himself in trouble and than telling story's about it after.
Cackle™
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
December 11 2011 12:35 GMT
#29
Doesn't come close to any of the D2 cinematics, but still pretty good.

But I still can't really get hyped about this game anymore. It's taken too long
Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
December 11 2011 12:51 GMT
#30
well, there isn't anything orginal about this video but blizzard always makes these cinematics seem so good. i don't know it's the editing, the musics or the sound effects but i can't watch any one of their cinematics without losing my breath...

...i'm just happy that i'll be graduating next month or i would be stuck in university forever. i will love this game <3
Inject Bitch!
Ada
Profile Joined October 2004
Germany150 Posts
December 11 2011 12:53 GMT
#31
speculation and/or spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +
Cain seems to be translating some old texts and they say: "Justice shall fall upon the world of men."
Well Tyrael is the angel of justice afaik.
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
December 11 2011 13:51 GMT
#32
Pretty much everything Blizzard has made since WoW launched has been campy. The Frozen Throne was the last product that could hold its head high.

And, yes, Diablo II's cinematics are unmatched.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
December 11 2011 14:19 GMT
#33
The first part with the Ravens is amazing.
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
December 11 2011 14:22 GMT
#34
Its not traditional "showcase" trailer, this trailers purpose is to show you the story, some basic things about it and so on. Right when the trailer ends in the game, you go rescue Deckard. Its intro to the game, not trailer that was made to show best events in the game. There is different one for that.
Just another gold Protoss...
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 15:24:30
December 11 2011 15:21 GMT
#35
This is pretty stupid, though. Cain gets hit by that and yet in the beta you find him alive and in perfect health in the cathedral level 2. Not to mention that this makes the game seem like it's about rescuing uncle cain. I like blizz cinematics, but I think that this is cheesy with it's still frame concept art hype opening, and poorly thought out in the way it represents / opens the game to someone just starting it. Blizzard art direction has gone to total shit by the time they started D3.
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NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
December 11 2011 15:37 GMT
#36
that girl should get her own game... cant wait ! I might froze myself in the fridge.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 11 2011 15:45 GMT
#37
Well, this is her game because + Show Spoiler +
she gets possessed by Diablo, and is in fact the main boss in the game
. I was really excited about this game 4 years ago, but now, being spoiled by all the important stuff, without wanting to (but you just can't avoid it since the whole database is mined out), so whatevs Blizz, feel free to simplify this game and earn a shit ton of money on it
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
December 11 2011 16:14 GMT
#38
On December 12 2011 00:45 Odoakar wrote:
Well, this is her game because + Show Spoiler +
she gets possessed by Diablo, and is in fact the main boss in the game
. I was really excited about this game 4 years ago, but now, being spoiled by all the important stuff, without wanting to (but you just can't avoid it since the whole database is mined out), so whatevs Blizz, feel free to simplify this game and earn a shit ton of money on it

Wait...you play Diablo only because of story? Diablo is about trading, leveling, grinding, fighting...at least for most of its players I know every spoiler possible about the game and still I am as hyped as I ever could be.
Just another gold Protoss...
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
December 11 2011 16:20 GMT
#39
On December 12 2011 00:21 Lumi wrote:
This is pretty stupid, though. Cain gets hit by that and yet in the beta you find him alive and in perfect health in the cathedral level 2. Not to mention that this makes the game seem like it's about rescuing uncle cain. I like blizz cinematics, but I think that this is cheesy with it's still frame concept art hype opening, and poorly thought out in the way it represents / opens the game to someone just starting it. Blizzard art direction has gone to total shit by the time they started D3.


Maybe that's not really Cain that you find...
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
December 11 2011 16:21 GMT
#40
The Azmodan trailer was waaaay better.
ggaemo fan
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
December 11 2011 16:37 GMT
#41
On December 12 2011 01:20 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 00:21 Lumi wrote:
This is pretty stupid, though. Cain gets hit by that and yet in the beta you find him alive and in perfect health in the cathedral level 2. Not to mention that this makes the game seem like it's about rescuing uncle cain. I like blizz cinematics, but I think that this is cheesy with it's still frame concept art hype opening, and poorly thought out in the way it represents / opens the game to someone just starting it. Blizzard art direction has gone to total shit by the time they started D3.


Maybe that's not really Cain that you find...



DUN DUN DUN!!!
We march to victory!
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 17:33:05
December 11 2011 17:32 GMT
#42
+ Show Spoiler +
yeah real obvious Cain is Belial
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 11 2011 18:18 GMT
#43
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:



D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
December 11 2011 18:22 GMT
#44
Fantastic.
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
Snettik
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland186 Posts
December 11 2011 18:23 GMT
#45
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much


I agree diablo 3 is maybe too cartooni, but you hate a game because of graphics?
Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
December 11 2011 18:35 GMT
#46
No matter how awesome something is people will always find something to bitch about.

I can't wait for this game ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
December 11 2011 18:41 GMT
#47
Not a great intro as others have pointed out. Ah well, still going to play this. Still, it has a huge wall to climb if it wants to be good in my eyes after Skyrim.

I always laugh reading Blizzard interviews and they talk about ground breaking features like blacksmiths and stuff like that. Blizzard is a decade behind game design ideas but at least they make polished games. Hopefully Diablo 3 will be great, although I see myself playing through with one of each character and never touching it again.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
December 11 2011 18:52 GMT
#48
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much


yeah

definitely didn't like SC2's story direction and the mode it was delivered within the cinematics

don't really like the way the story is being told through the cinematics in D3 as well. I just hope Diablo 3 is a real good game though.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 19:08:33
December 11 2011 19:05 GMT
#49
i thought it was shit compared to other ones.





this is for USA viewers as the above cant be viewed here...
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Rikke
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany302 Posts
December 11 2011 19:11 GMT
#50
So boring! /yawn D3 hype is dead!
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 11 2011 19:23 GMT
#51
On December 12 2011 03:23 Snettik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much


I agree diablo 3 is maybe too cartooni, but you hate a game because of graphics?


Graphics? I would play a 8-bit Diablo game, only if it retained all the atmoshpere and storyline of the game that we saw from Blizzard North.

Right now we have a dev team that doesn't know what to do with their rune system that was supposed to be the main aspect of the skill development, we have a day by day simplification of every single aspect of the game (just few days ago they concluded that tool tips give too much information that might confuse the players...), the Demon Hunter looks half way complete, not even that much, many skills look just silly, weapons shown so far are very lackluster and so on and so on...
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 19:40:54
December 11 2011 19:33 GMT
#52
The future of this thread:

90% of response:
"Great I like it, please release the game"

Some guys:
"I don't like it, D2 blabla, D1 blabla"

The following is a big succession of quote chains with people trying to show why they have better taste than the others and why liking and not liking it is a fact that everyone should follow.

An advice, don't lose your time.

Still:
D2 cinematics were great but also longer
D3 intro was great but shorter

We always like longer when it is good... like sex!
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 19:45:40
December 11 2011 19:43 GMT
#53
On December 12 2011 04:05 Silidons wrote:
i thought it was shit compared to other ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdBkiaTYWvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kPXdtz_c4

this is for USA viewers as the above cant be viewed here...


I swear, that herald has balls of steel. At least, once the gate shuts lol.

Also, Diablo 2's intro really is amazing, despite the low visual quality.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
December 11 2011 20:20 GMT
#54
very nice !
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
December 11 2011 20:32 GMT
#55
On December 12 2011 03:41 Kurr wrote:
Not a great intro as others have pointed out. Ah well, still going to play this. Still, it has a huge wall to climb if it wants to be good in my eyes after Skyrim.

I always laugh reading Blizzard interviews and they talk about ground breaking features like blacksmiths and stuff like that. Blizzard is a decade behind game design ideas but at least they make polished games. Hopefully Diablo 3 will be great, although I see myself playing through with one of each character and never touching it again.

Blizzard doesnt make innovative revolutionary games, Blizzard makes extremely polished, well-thought out, very long-lasting games, the best in their genre.

And I like it. I dont like the direction most RPGs are heading, I like change but Skyrim is too console-ish and not that complex, also I dont have any motivation to ever play it again after I completed every quest I found.
Diablo on the other hand may not have big world and so many quests, but it has fun gameplay, fun item grinding, extremely good replayability, multiplayer, it is PC focused, kind of old-school-ish RPG with some new elements. Ideal game for me
Just another gold Protoss...
Snettik
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland186 Posts
December 11 2011 20:34 GMT
#56
On December 12 2011 04:23 Odoakar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 03:23 Snettik wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much


I agree diablo 3 is maybe too cartooni, but you hate a game because of graphics?


Graphics? I would play a 8-bit Diablo game, only if it retained all the atmoshpere and storyline of the game that we saw from Blizzard North.

Right now we have a dev team that doesn't know what to do with their rune system that was supposed to be the main aspect of the skill development, we have a day by day simplification of every single aspect of the game (just few days ago they concluded that tool tips give too much information that might confuse the players...), the Demon Hunter looks half way complete, not even that much, many skills look just silly, weapons shown so far are very lackluster and so on and so on...


Yeah i'll have to agree with most of your points all though i wouldn't judge the game without playing it. The old diablos felt like horror games. I just feel like this isn't Diablo 3, but some other (probably awesome) game. I don't think the game is too simple though. Now you can put talents for your mercs and all of them are useful, D2 summon necro or hammer pala were simple as fuck. I don't think any class really used 6 skills, in D2 making a build was basically picking 5ish skills to max (and picking gear ofc).
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
December 11 2011 20:47 GMT
#57
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much


For me I don't even mind the art direction. I don't think it has changed all that much.

But compare the dialouge of the new trailer to this. D2 is WAY better
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 11 2011 21:06 GMT
#58
On December 12 2011 04:33 rezoacken wrote:
The future of this thread:

90% of response:
"Great I like it, please release the game"

Some guys:
"I don't like it, D2 blabla, D1 blabla"

The following is a big succession of quote chains with people trying to show why they have better taste than the others and why liking and not liking it is a fact that everyone should follow.

An advice, don't lose your time.

Still:
D2 cinematics were great but also longer
D3 intro was great but shorter

We always like longer when it is good... like sex!

So you then think we should all conform to your opinion, undermining what you actually said? Sounds good.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 11 2011 21:16 GMT
#59
Diablo 3 has 25 minutes of cinematics supposedly, thats quite a bit longer than D2 iirc.
twitch.tv/medrea
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
December 11 2011 21:23 GMT
#60
On December 12 2011 05:32 Overpowered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 03:41 Kurr wrote:
Not a great intro as others have pointed out. Ah well, still going to play this. Still, it has a huge wall to climb if it wants to be good in my eyes after Skyrim.

I always laugh reading Blizzard interviews and they talk about ground breaking features like blacksmiths and stuff like that. Blizzard is a decade behind game design ideas but at least they make polished games. Hopefully Diablo 3 will be great, although I see myself playing through with one of each character and never touching it again.

Blizzard doesnt make innovative revolutionary games, Blizzard makes extremely polished, well-thought out, very long-lasting games, the best in their genre.


Blizzard made innovative games before. But they do not wish to cancel any more games than Ghost and Warcraft Adventures. Because other companies money is involved, originality has to suffer for pushing out a safe polished product that sales well. Unfortunately.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
December 11 2011 21:34 GMT
#61
On December 12 2011 06:16 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 3 has 25 minutes of cinematics supposedly, thats quite a bit longer than D2 iirc.


That's about as much as Diablo 2 actually, a little shorter in fact.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 11 2011 21:40 GMT
#62
Guess Im jaded because I skipped all them for years and years.
twitch.tv/medrea
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
December 11 2011 21:43 GMT
#63
Leah keeps looking better and better with these cinematic videos O_O lol. But really, the cinematic was really cool and I like this one more than the Azmodan vision. I love the art story telling in this one with the angels vs demons fight and how the angels flew down from the high heavens. We also got a glimpse of the named angels too, which will make an appearance in the game.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 22:31:43
December 11 2011 22:25 GMT
#64
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much

LOL, get out.

Have you even played the game? I've heard lots of people playing the beta who've said all the people whining about this "cartoony" feel are just fooling themselves and the game is full of blood and gore everywhere.

On December 12 2011 06:23 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 05:32 Overpowered wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:41 Kurr wrote:
Not a great intro as others have pointed out. Ah well, still going to play this. Still, it has a huge wall to climb if it wants to be good in my eyes after Skyrim.

I always laugh reading Blizzard interviews and they talk about ground breaking features like blacksmiths and stuff like that. Blizzard is a decade behind game design ideas but at least they make polished games. Hopefully Diablo 3 will be great, although I see myself playing through with one of each character and never touching it again.

Blizzard doesnt make innovative revolutionary games, Blizzard makes extremely polished, well-thought out, very long-lasting games, the best in their genre.


Blizzard made innovative games before. But they do not wish to cancel any more games than Ghost and Warcraft Adventures. Because other companies money is involved, originality has to suffer for pushing out a safe polished product that sales well. Unfortunately.

No they didn't. All their games have ideas crossed from other developers. They've invented practically nothing new in all their history. Maybe original Diablo was a breakthrough.

Warcraft/Starcraft are based upon the Dune, and later C&C concept of RTS, set in lore and environments extremely reminiscent and clearly inspired on Warhammer products. While WoW was derived almost completely from an improved Everquest concept. Their greatest characteristic as a developer is BY FAR polishness, close customer relationship and deepness in content. Creativity in aspects different from story and lore isn't their strong point at all.

Even Ghost and WC adventures introduced nothing new to the gaming scene. Their biggest development in the RTS department is balancing 3 completely different factions, but that is really nothing "new", but a product of dedication and polish more than anything related to creativity.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 11 2011 23:55 GMT
#65
On December 12 2011 07:25 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much

LOL, get out.

Have you even played the game? I've heard lots of people playing the beta who've said all the people whining about this "cartoony" feel are just fooling themselves and the game is full of blood and gore everywhere.


Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 06:23 Shauni wrote:
On December 12 2011 05:32 Overpowered wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:41 Kurr wrote:
Not a great intro as others have pointed out. Ah well, still going to play this. Still, it has a huge wall to climb if it wants to be good in my eyes after Skyrim.

I always laugh reading Blizzard interviews and they talk about ground breaking features like blacksmiths and stuff like that. Blizzard is a decade behind game design ideas but at least they make polished games. Hopefully Diablo 3 will be great, although I see myself playing through with one of each character and never touching it again.

Blizzard doesnt make innovative revolutionary games, Blizzard makes extremely polished, well-thought out, very long-lasting games, the best in their genre.


Blizzard made innovative games before. But they do not wish to cancel any more games than Ghost and Warcraft Adventures. Because other companies money is involved, originality has to suffer for pushing out a safe polished product that sales well. Unfortunately.

No they didn't. All their games have ideas crossed from other developers. They've invented practically nothing new in all their history. Maybe original Diablo was a breakthrough.

Warcraft/Starcraft are based upon the Dune, and later C&C concept of RTS, set in lore and environments extremely reminiscent and clearly inspired on Warhammer products. While WoW was derived almost completely from an improved Everquest concept. Their greatest characteristic as a developer is BY FAR polishness, close customer relationship and deepness in content. Creativity in aspects different from story and lore isn't their strong point at all.

Even Ghost and WC adventures introduced nothing new to the gaming scene. Their biggest development in the RTS department is balancing 3 completely different factions, but that is really nothing "new", but a product of dedication and polish more than anything related to creativity.

i'm in the beta and it looks almost exactly like DotA2 IMO
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
PraefektMotus
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 00:12:22
December 12 2011 00:07 GMT
#66
While the trailer and all of the newer CG art from Blizzard are second to none, since SC2 I wonder what the hell happened to their dialogue writers. Characters and dialogue used to be deep, unique and enthralling. Lots of characters had extremely memorable speeches.

Awaken my child, and embrace the glory that is your birthright. Know that I am the Overmind; the eternal will of the Swarm, and that you have been created to serve me. Behold that I shall set you amongst the greatest of my Cerebrates, that you might benefit from their wisdom and experience. Yet your purpose is unique. While they carry forth my will to the innumerable Broods, you have but one charge entrusted to your care.
For I have found a creature that may yet become the greatest of my agents. Even now it resides within a protective Chrysalis, awaiting its rebirth into the Swarm. You must watch over the Chrysalis, and ensure that no harm comes to the creature within it. Go now and keep safe my prize.


Let's kick this revolution into overdrive.


I can see what you see not.
Vision milky then eyes rot.
When you turn they will be gone,
Whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be,
Shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind,
Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.


UNCLLLLLLEEEEEE
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 00:38:49
December 12 2011 00:35 GMT
#67
Diablo looks feminine. Is his new body a girl? Maybe he takes Leah's body and soul later.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
December 12 2011 00:49 GMT
#68
There is speculation that it's her. There are tons of spoilers out there and I don't know if that's one of them because I'm trying not to spoil the entire plot before I play it.

As opposed to a lot of others, I actually really like the plot in games that I play and it's as important as the actual gameplay for me, even in Diablo games. Diablo 2 has a pretty badass plot, even if it was pretty generic.
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procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
December 12 2011 00:55 GMT
#69
On December 12 2011 09:49 Kurr wrote:
There is speculation that it's her. There are tons of spoilers out there and I don't know if that's one of them because I'm trying not to spoil the entire plot before I play it.


Haha, it's like Blizzard is just ripping off Age of Wonders 2. Man, these guys are hopeless. I don't approve of George R.R. Martin but Blizzard really needs a guy like him to go in there and fuck up all their shitty plans.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 12 2011 01:35 GMT
#70
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
twitch.tv/medrea
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
December 12 2011 01:45 GMT
#71
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 12 2011 01:50 GMT
#72
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.
twitch.tv/medrea
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
December 12 2011 02:13 GMT
#73
On December 12 2011 10:50 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.


I've played the whole game, i know what it looks like. It doesn't look cartoony and it doesn't make me facepalm like the demonhunter trailer.

I haven't even played the beta though, so I hope I'm wrong. It could be an amazing game, and I'm going to try it when it comes out. Just not looking very promising so far
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
December 12 2011 02:27 GMT
#74
somethings been bugging me, which cinematic is suppose to come first chronologically?
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procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
December 12 2011 02:29 GMT
#75
On December 12 2011 11:27 Brutaxilos wrote:
somethings been bugging me, which cinematic is suppose to come first chronologically?


The new one is the opening cinematic, so guess.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 02:45:58
December 12 2011 02:44 GMT
#76
On December 12 2011 11:13 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 10:50 Medrea wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.


I've played the whole game, i know what it looks like. It doesn't look cartoony and it doesn't make me facepalm like the demonhunter trailer.

I haven't even played the beta though, so I hope I'm wrong. It could be an amazing game, and I'm going to try it when it comes out. Just not looking very promising so far

I really, really do not know where this whole "OHHHH D2 was so dark and gothic and gory and creepy and scary!!" comes from. I played the game for years and NEVER got this feeling. Just dark. Sometimes.

People are overblowing this issue SO MUCH it's crazy. It's almost as ridiculous as the WoW Pandaren issue. Release pandas ---> "WAAAAAAAH!!! PANDAS ARE SO CHILDISH AND STUPID"... WTF? What patch in WoW are you playing I don't know about?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 12 2011 02:57 GMT
#77
I blame deviantART.
twitch.tv/medrea
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
December 12 2011 03:14 GMT
#78
Beautiful - time to start thinking about upgrading the old desktop...
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
December 12 2011 03:15 GMT
#79
Disappointing trailer. Doesn't make me excited at all.
Cinematics might look better, graphically with renders and all that shit. But stylistically and content-wise they were a lot better before.
Larsa23
Profile Joined November 2011
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 03:23:50
December 12 2011 03:20 GMT
#80
On December 12 2011 11:57 Medrea wrote:
I blame deviantART.


I hate that website. I can't even figure out why I kept caring about it in the first place.

I only care about the PvP and items. I'm sure the story will be decent enough.

When I played D2 it was all about grinding and making the best character with the best items.

I'd really like it if this time the economy focused on gold and not SOJs I hated that so much.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
December 12 2011 03:25 GMT
#81
On December 12 2011 11:44 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 11:13 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:50 Medrea wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.


I've played the whole game, i know what it looks like. It doesn't look cartoony and it doesn't make me facepalm like the demonhunter trailer.

I haven't even played the beta though, so I hope I'm wrong. It could be an amazing game, and I'm going to try it when it comes out. Just not looking very promising so far

I really, really do not know where this whole "OHHHH D2 was so dark and gothic and gory and creepy and scary!!" comes from. I played the game for years and NEVER got this feeling. Just dark. Sometimes.

People are overblowing this issue SO MUCH it's crazy. It's almost as ridiculous as the WoW Pandaren issue. Release pandas ---> "WAAAAAAAH!!! PANDAS ARE SO CHILDISH AND STUPID"... WTF? What patch in WoW are you playing I don't know about?


I believe D3 will have a lot of gore, and I agree that D2 wasn't scary at all.
wtchuwahmon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia63 Posts
December 12 2011 03:52 GMT
#82
CMOOOOOOON!@#!@#!@# Give us a release date already so i can plan my holidays around it pleeaaase!!! So excited but farrrr out this wait is so frustrating...
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 12 2011 04:05 GMT
#83
On December 12 2011 12:52 wtchuwahmon wrote:
CMOOOOOOON!@#!@#!@# Give us a release date already so i can plan my holidays around it pleeaaase!!! So excited but farrrr out this wait is so frustrating...

hopefully you'll be able to plan your 2012 holiday plans around it!
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
December 12 2011 04:45 GMT
#84
On December 12 2011 04:23 Odoakar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 03:23 Snettik wrote:
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much


I agree diablo 3 is maybe too cartooni, but you hate a game because of graphics?


Graphics? I would play a 8-bit Diablo game, only if it retained all the atmoshpere and storyline of the game that we saw from Blizzard North.

Right now we have a dev team that doesn't know what to do with their rune system that was supposed to be the main aspect of the skill development, we have a day by day simplification of every single aspect of the game (just few days ago they concluded that tool tips give too much information that might confuse the players...), the Demon Hunter looks half way complete, not even that much, many skills look just silly, weapons shown so far are very lackluster and so on and so on...

Blizzard North was epic, D1's atmosphere (not mechanics) was absolutely fantastic.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 12 2011 18:35 GMT
#85
On December 12 2011 11:44 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 11:13 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:50 Medrea wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.


I've played the whole game, i know what it looks like. It doesn't look cartoony and it doesn't make me facepalm like the demonhunter trailer.

I haven't even played the beta though, so I hope I'm wrong. It could be an amazing game, and I'm going to try it when it comes out. Just not looking very promising so far

I really, really do not know where this whole "OHHHH D2 was so dark and gothic and gory and creepy and scary!!" comes from. I played the game for years and NEVER got this feeling. Just dark. Sometimes.

People are overblowing this issue SO MUCH it's crazy. It's almost as ridiculous as the WoW Pandaren issue. Release pandas ---> "WAAAAAAAH!!! PANDAS ARE SO CHILDISH AND STUPID"... WTF? What patch in WoW are you playing I don't know about?



Teenagers pretending they're adults is still the main demographic of the videogame industry. They pretend to be mature by whining like babies on things they consider childish. WoW is one of the few games that actually has a decently-sized adult demographic and it's funny how much hate it gets from teens talking about WoW "kiddies". It's the same thing with Facebook and iPhone games.

Anyway, teens often connote colorful with childish so that's where all the Diablo 3 complaints came from.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
December 12 2011 19:06 GMT
#86
On December 13 2011 03:35 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 11:44 mordk wrote:
On December 12 2011 11:13 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:50 Medrea wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.


I've played the whole game, i know what it looks like. It doesn't look cartoony and it doesn't make me facepalm like the demonhunter trailer.

I haven't even played the beta though, so I hope I'm wrong. It could be an amazing game, and I'm going to try it when it comes out. Just not looking very promising so far

I really, really do not know where this whole "OHHHH D2 was so dark and gothic and gory and creepy and scary!!" comes from. I played the game for years and NEVER got this feeling. Just dark. Sometimes.

People are overblowing this issue SO MUCH it's crazy. It's almost as ridiculous as the WoW Pandaren issue. Release pandas ---> "WAAAAAAAH!!! PANDAS ARE SO CHILDISH AND STUPID"... WTF? What patch in WoW are you playing I don't know about?



Teenagers pretending they're adults is still the main demographic of the videogame industry. They pretend to be mature by whining like babies on things they consider childish. WoW is one of the few games that actually has a decently-sized adult demographic and it's funny how much hate it gets from teens talking about WoW "kiddies". It's the same thing with Facebook and iPhone games.

Anyway, teens often connote colorful with childish so that's where all the Diablo 3 complaints came from.


Did you say something about childish? Stating an honest opinion counts as whining like a baby now?

I said I have no problem with colorfulness. But this video is just silly

andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 19:21:37
December 12 2011 19:21 GMT
#87
On December 13 2011 04:06 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 03:35 andrewlt wrote:
On December 12 2011 11:44 mordk wrote:
On December 12 2011 11:13 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:50 Medrea wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.


I've played the whole game, i know what it looks like. It doesn't look cartoony and it doesn't make me facepalm like the demonhunter trailer.

I haven't even played the beta though, so I hope I'm wrong. It could be an amazing game, and I'm going to try it when it comes out. Just not looking very promising so far

I really, really do not know where this whole "OHHHH D2 was so dark and gothic and gory and creepy and scary!!" comes from. I played the game for years and NEVER got this feeling. Just dark. Sometimes.

People are overblowing this issue SO MUCH it's crazy. It's almost as ridiculous as the WoW Pandaren issue. Release pandas ---> "WAAAAAAAH!!! PANDAS ARE SO CHILDISH AND STUPID"... WTF? What patch in WoW are you playing I don't know about?



Teenagers pretending they're adults is still the main demographic of the videogame industry. They pretend to be mature by whining like babies on things they consider childish. WoW is one of the few games that actually has a decently-sized adult demographic and it's funny how much hate it gets from teens talking about WoW "kiddies". It's the same thing with Facebook and iPhone games.

Anyway, teens often connote colorful with childish so that's where all the Diablo 3 complaints came from.


Did you say something about childish? Stating an honest opinion counts as whining like a baby now?

I said I have no problem with colorfulness. But this video is just silly



That post wasn't addressed at you specifically. And yes, the honest opinion of teenagers is frequently childish.

That video had nothing to do with the massive color debate that happened when some of the earlier D3 screenshots got released. That was what that guy was making fun of. That entire debate made me shake my head.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
December 12 2011 20:47 GMT
#88
On December 11 2011 15:23 village_idiot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 14:43 emesen wrote:
yeah the opening half of the cinematic with the animated drawings reminded me a lot of a guild wars 2 trailer

i might be alone in this but i didn't particularly like the intro cinematic... i felt the beginning half's action and feeling of "epicness" was dulled down by the use of stylized art even when animated... had it started off witht he drawings and evolved into full blown CGI i think woulda worked better...

the second half of the intro was bland...

and I really couldn't put my finger on why I didn't like this cinematic as a whole until just now... and i blame it on blizzard for releasing the cinematics out of order... watching this after already having seen the Black Soulstone movie diminishes this one's effectiveness... maybe that's just me


. And why is Leah shaking her ass so sexily while walking?



hell yeah! I re-watched a few times.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 21:37:00
December 12 2011 21:35 GMT
#89
Super sexy cinematic! Can't wait to play the full game!
On December 11 2011 14:00 village_idiot wrote:
That was a bit cheesy, but you if the gameplay is good, I won't mind too much.

Also, the meteor is obviously Diablo. I mean, who else would be crashing the old Tristram church than him?

Obviously Diablo? Really? You are so sure that your willing to bet money on it? It could be any one of the Archangels of The Angiris Council, or one of the lesser evils. Hell, it may not even be a living being at all, it could be the Black Soulstone or something else entirely.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 23:31:19
December 12 2011 23:23 GMT
#90
They were doing so well with the lineart Heaven vs Hell battle, but just had to ruin it with the nonsensical and cliche second part with Cain and the token female.

On December 13 2011 03:35 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 11:44 mordk wrote:
On December 12 2011 11:13 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:50 Medrea wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.


I've played the whole game, i know what it looks like. It doesn't look cartoony and it doesn't make me facepalm like the demonhunter trailer.

I haven't even played the beta though, so I hope I'm wrong. It could be an amazing game, and I'm going to try it when it comes out. Just not looking very promising so far

I really, really do not know where this whole "OHHHH D2 was so dark and gothic and gory and creepy and scary!!" comes from. I played the game for years and NEVER got this feeling. Just dark. Sometimes.

People are overblowing this issue SO MUCH it's crazy. It's almost as ridiculous as the WoW Pandaren issue. Release pandas ---> "WAAAAAAAH!!! PANDAS ARE SO CHILDISH AND STUPID"... WTF? What patch in WoW are you playing I don't know about?



Teenagers pretending they're adults is still the main demographic of the videogame industry. They pretend to be mature by whining like babies on things they consider childish. WoW is one of the few games that actually has a decently-sized adult demographic and it's funny how much hate it gets from teens talking about WoW "kiddies". It's the same thing with Facebook and iPhone games.

Anyway, teens often connote colorful with childish so that's where all the Diablo 3 complaints came from.


Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 12 2011 23:59 GMT
#91
Dark murky atmospheres are not conducive to gaming. Clarity is very important. That's why the art style is what it is.
twitch.tv/medrea
actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
December 13 2011 00:14 GMT
#92
Cgi is getting more and more real looking every time i see a major release. Pretty soon you wont even be able to tell the differences. The image in leah is so damn realistic. It is impressive to say the least. Have come a long way in the last 10 years thats for sure!
It rained today inside my head...
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
December 13 2011 01:02 GMT
#93
I do like that the cgi is getting better and better. But this introduction is really disappointing...and reminds me of how SC2's story and cinematics were done (for the most part). Everything just sounds like a typical Hollywood movie, there's no real depth or creativity. Just compare this to the videos made for Diablo 2...that was quality. It wasn't just the doom of the world is coming because of an ancient prophecy, followed by a bunch of monsters popping out. The only thing that didn't seem cliche was Cain getting hit by a meteor...except the problem with that is his survival makes no sense unless you try to wrack your brain thinking of crazy Horadrim magic or old-man dexterity that allowed an 80 year old man to survive. ARGH.

However I have to admit, the other video with the black soul gem was really well done, reminds me of warcraft 3 cutscenes. I hope they have more of that...just as long as the story is good too.

NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
December 13 2011 02:27 GMT
#94
BliZZard, I am dissapoint.
sorry for dem one liners
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
December 13 2011 04:02 GMT
#95
On December 13 2011 03:35 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 11:44 mordk wrote:
On December 12 2011 11:13 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:50 Medrea wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:45 11cc wrote:
On December 12 2011 10:35 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 was NEVER colorful or cartoony.

+ Show Spoiler +
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I've done like a 100 baalruns and i never was able to make it look that colorful and bright. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't mind bright colors and stuff, as long as they keep the overall atmosphere gritty and sinister.


There are some good River of Flame shots as well that are very bright. All of act 2 was bright. blah blah blah.


I've played the whole game, i know what it looks like. It doesn't look cartoony and it doesn't make me facepalm like the demonhunter trailer.

I haven't even played the beta though, so I hope I'm wrong. It could be an amazing game, and I'm going to try it when it comes out. Just not looking very promising so far

I really, really do not know where this whole "OHHHH D2 was so dark and gothic and gory and creepy and scary!!" comes from. I played the game for years and NEVER got this feeling. Just dark. Sometimes.

People are overblowing this issue SO MUCH it's crazy. It's almost as ridiculous as the WoW Pandaren issue. Release pandas ---> "WAAAAAAAH!!! PANDAS ARE SO CHILDISH AND STUPID"... WTF? What patch in WoW are you playing I don't know about?



Teenagers pretending they're adults is still the main demographic of the videogame industry. They pretend to be mature by whining like babies on things they consider childish. WoW is one of the few games that actually has a decently-sized adult demographic and it's funny how much hate it gets from teens talking about WoW "kiddies". It's the same thing with Facebook and iPhone games.

Anyway, teens often connote colorful with childish so that's where all the Diablo 3 complaints came from.



Though I can understand your assumption I can assure you that this isn't the case. I'm 23 and have played every game Blizzard has produced. Ever since WC3 I have been disappoint. I just don't like cartoon looking games. I feel it is childish. I would rather more realistic gaming. Blizzard games are still the best games out there. I will still buy them. It's just something I've never been fond of.
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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
December 13 2011 06:13 GMT
#96
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
December 13 2011 06:14 GMT
#97
That chick looks SO un-medieval :/ She could be in a kpop band. Not very realistic.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
SpectralFremen
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia386 Posts
December 13 2011 06:28 GMT
#98
You are all so cynical. The game will be awesome. Blizzard have never made a bad game.
"And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere"
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 13 2011 06:31 GMT
#99
On December 13 2011 15:14 ChApFoU wrote:
That chick looks SO un-medieval :/ She could be in a kpop band. Not very realistic.


Pretty sure they had tattered leather and linen back then. Unless you are talking about the fact that she isnt literally in period clothing. In which case I could find you a lot of examples of this in Diablo 1, 2, and LOD.
twitch.tv/medrea
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
December 13 2011 06:43 GMT
#100
On December 13 2011 15:13 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun


From metacritic:
Diablo 94
Diablo II 88
Diablo II:LOD 87
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 13 2011 06:51 GMT
#101
Diablo 1 isnt even supported anymore. Which is fine because everyone cheated at that game since characters were stored clientside (lol). Diablo 2 was a hype machine beyond all belief and Blizzard delivered. LOD brought only 1 extra act which people were underwhelmed about, but in later patches brought in a LOT of content that even modern games cant match. Lord of Destruction is still the best action RPG on the market and regularly retails along with D2 vanilla for 40 dollars. You can't say that about any other game from 10 years ago inside the same genre except for some point and click adventure games.
twitch.tv/medrea
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
December 13 2011 06:57 GMT
#102
On December 13 2011 15:51 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 1 isnt even supported anymore. Which is fine because everyone cheated at that game since characters were stored clientside (lol). Diablo 2 was a hype machine beyond all belief and Blizzard delivered. LOD brought only 1 extra act which people were underwhelmed about, but in later patches brought in a LOT of content that even modern games cant match. Lord of Destruction is still the best action RPG on the market and regularly retails along with D2 vanilla for 40 dollars. You can't say that about any other game from 10 years ago inside the same genre except for some point and click adventure games.


Is this a response to my post? I'm confused...
Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
December 13 2011 08:17 GMT
#103
On December 13 2011 15:28 SpectralFremen wrote:
You are all so cynical. The game will be awesome. Blizzard have never made a bad game.


Definately agree. Only people who won't have fun are the ones who will want exactly diablo 1 and diablo 2 fused into one single game
Inject Bitch!
Daymor
Profile Joined September 2011
New Zealand151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 10:35:54
December 13 2011 10:34 GMT
#104
On December 13 2011 15:43 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:13 Assault_1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun


From metacritic:
Diablo 94
Diablo II 88
Diablo II:LOD 87


I don't think that those ratings are any good barometer at all to be honest. I think you would find it incredibly difficult to find many games, movies, TV Shows or any sequels in general which out-perform originals which aren't complete trash.

Simply by virtue of the fact that a good original sets your expectations significantly higher making it harder to live up to those expectations (my opinion anyway).

Just for a quick comparison, here are the Metacritic reviews for Call of Duty (PC Ratings);

Call of Duty - 91
Call of Duty 2 - 86
Call of Duty 3 - 80
CoD: World at War - 83
CoD: Black Ops - 81
CoD: Modern Warfare - 92
CoD: Modern Warfare 2 - 86
CoD: Modern Warfare 3 - 80

I chose Call of Duty simply due to the massive reception that CoD: MW3 has received and the insane sales it has managed to pump out, but as you can see on the Metacritic reviews it doesn't live up to either of it's two predecessors.

Edit: Anyway on topic. I really enjoyed the Cinematic, Diablo 3 is easily the game I am most looking forward to in the not too distant future.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
December 13 2011 12:11 GMT
#105
On December 13 2011 19:34 Daymor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:43 11cc wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:13 Assault_1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun


From metacritic:
Diablo 94
Diablo II 88
Diablo II:LOD 87


I don't think that those ratings are any good barometer at all to be honest. I think you would find it incredibly difficult to find many games, movies, TV Shows or any sequels in general which out-perform originals which aren't complete trash.

Simply by virtue of the fact that a good original sets your expectations significantly higher making it harder to live up to those expectations (my opinion anyway).

Just for a quick comparison, here are the Metacritic reviews for Call of Duty (PC Ratings);

Call of Duty - 91
Call of Duty 2 - 86
Call of Duty 3 - 80
CoD: World at War - 83
CoD: Black Ops - 81
CoD: Modern Warfare - 92
CoD: Modern Warfare 2 - 86
CoD: Modern Warfare 3 - 80

I chose Call of Duty simply due to the massive reception that CoD: MW3 has received and the insane sales it has managed to pump out, but as you can see on the Metacritic reviews it doesn't live up to either of it's two predecessors.

Edit: Anyway on topic. I really enjoyed the Cinematic, Diablo 3 is easily the game I am most looking forward to in the not too distant future.


There are other factors, like marketing, that effect sales. The whole purpose of the critics is to evaluate the quality of the game so I don't see what better barometer could there be.

I didn't even want to make an argument that the original Diablo is better than the sequel. I actually enjoyed DII more. I just thought that "yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun" is a debatable statement and as such wasn't a good response to the previous post.
Daymor
Profile Joined September 2011
New Zealand151 Posts
December 13 2011 12:25 GMT
#106
On December 13 2011 21:11 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 19:34 Daymor wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:43 11cc wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:13 Assault_1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun


From metacritic:
Diablo 94
Diablo II 88
Diablo II:LOD 87


I don't think that those ratings are any good barometer at all to be honest. I think you would find it incredibly difficult to find many games, movies, TV Shows or any sequels in general which out-perform originals which aren't complete trash.

Simply by virtue of the fact that a good original sets your expectations significantly higher making it harder to live up to those expectations (my opinion anyway).

Just for a quick comparison, here are the Metacritic reviews for Call of Duty (PC Ratings);

Call of Duty - 91
Call of Duty 2 - 86
Call of Duty 3 - 80
CoD: World at War - 83
CoD: Black Ops - 81
CoD: Modern Warfare - 92
CoD: Modern Warfare 2 - 86
CoD: Modern Warfare 3 - 80

I chose Call of Duty simply due to the massive reception that CoD: MW3 has received and the insane sales it has managed to pump out, but as you can see on the Metacritic reviews it doesn't live up to either of it's two predecessors.

Edit: Anyway on topic. I really enjoyed the Cinematic, Diablo 3 is easily the game I am most looking forward to in the not too distant future.


There are other factors, like marketing, that effect sales. The whole purpose of the critics is to evaluate the quality of the game so I don't see what better barometer could there be.

I didn't even want to make an argument that the original Diablo is better than the sequel. I actually enjoyed DII more. I just thought that "yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun" is a debatable statement and as such wasn't a good response to the previous post.


Yeah I don't disagree with you either. The statement is just an opinion.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and in most cases they are going to be different. I personally haven't ever played the original game, but I played Diablo II quite a lot and I really enjoyed the game.

I guess my main point is everyone's mileage will vary based on what they want/desire from the game. Trying to convince people your opinion is 'right' is usually an effort in futility.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
December 13 2011 13:18 GMT
#107
On December 13 2011 15:51 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 1 isnt even supported anymore. Which is fine because everyone cheated at that game since characters were stored clientside (lol). Diablo 2 was a hype machine beyond all belief and Blizzard delivered. LOD brought only 1 extra act which people were underwhelmed about, but in later patches brought in a LOT of content that even modern games cant match. Lord of Destruction is still the best action RPG on the market and regularly retails along with D2 vanilla for 40 dollars. You can't say that about any other game from 10 years ago inside the same genre except for some point and click adventure games.


You are absolutely correct, Diablo 2 is a much better MMO than Diablo 1 was.

In any case, I do agree that overall D2 is much better in terms of gameplay mechanics compared to D1. However, for a lot of people D2 was a disappointment, in that it did away with a lot of things that made D1 what it was, including the atmosphere, the original lore, the roguelike mechanics, etc. D1 was actually very much a simplified roguelike in real-time with great music and art design. In terms of more recent games, it was much more like Dark Souls thematically, than like D2.

If you could have a game with D2's mechanics and D1's atmosphere and focus, I'd be all for it. But I don't think D3 is that game.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
December 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#108
On December 13 2011 15:43 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:13 Assault_1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun


From metacritic:
Diablo 94
Diablo II 88
Diablo II:LOD 87

oh ok, GTA4 got 10/10 on gamespot so it must be the most fun
jees why'd I play d2 for 5 years when I could've been playing that?
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
December 13 2011 18:37 GMT
#109
Nerds chills at the arabic female voice part.
Resistance ain't futile
Sek-Kuar
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 19:59:21
December 13 2011 19:56 GMT
#110
Why are people still complaining about different atmospere in Diablo games?

Diablo 1 was average game with one absolutely outstanding feature, battle.net - which was responsible for 99% of game succes in times where nothing like that existed. Diablo 2 came later where battle.net wasnt such a big deal and it turned out to be one of the most amazing games ever created. And there was competition for Diablo 2. But Diablo 1 was pretty much not competing at all, because it was the only game of "including-gaming-platform-genre".

If you like D1 atmosphere, then go listen to EMO songs. However more D3 have in common with D2 the better it will be.


About intro cinematics, D2 had better, at least with better music. D3 intro isnt so much epic, they could definitelly add some action and choose music better.

EDIT: I also loved that LoD "african shaman song" for Tyrael destroying WS (dunno how to describe it ^^) they added something like that at the very end of this intro but not so much, could have been more. Not saying intro was bad, just that it could have been a lot better.
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NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
December 13 2011 20:03 GMT
#111
If it's one thing Blizzard does right, it's the cinematics. Even if there are cheesy lines or anything like that, the overall quality is just amazing.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
December 13 2011 20:35 GMT
#112
On December 14 2011 04:56 Sek-Kuar wrote:
Why are people still complaining about different atmospere in Diablo games?

Diablo 1 was average game with one absolutely outstanding feature, battle.net - which was responsible for 99% of game succes in times where nothing like that existed. Diablo 2 came later where battle.net wasnt such a big deal and it turned out to be one of the most amazing games ever created. And there was competition for Diablo 2. But Diablo 1 was pretty much not competing at all, because it was the only game of "including-gaming-platform-genre".

If you like D1 atmosphere, then go listen to EMO songs. However more D3 have in common with D2 the better it will be.


About intro cinematics, D2 had better, at least with better music. D3 intro isnt so much epic, they could definitelly add some action and choose music better.

EDIT: I also loved that LoD "african shaman song" for Tyrael destroying WS (dunno how to describe it ^^) they added something like that at the very end of this intro but not so much, could have been more. Not saying intro was bad, just that it could have been a lot better.


You should look into WoW, I think it's exactly what you need.

Actually, now that I think about it, LoD started the trend of making everything as retarded and cliche-ridden as possible. Including turning Baal into a drag queen for whatever reason. And WoW has tons of that, so you'll definitely love it.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
December 13 2011 20:56 GMT
#113
On December 12 2011 03:18 Odoakar wrote:
And just to put things into perspective, this is how a real Diablo opening scene looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFyFJfHiBk

D3 opening looks too cartony and has no atmosphere. But that's what you get from a game that has giant leaping green frogs as a skill.

I really want this game to be good, but I'm starting to hate it oh so much


Hey, don't diss ma rain of frogs!

But yeah... D2 cinematics had a spot on dark, atmospheric feel to them. I'm hoping this one isn't actually the first cinematic of the game. I like the beginning artwork, but I get more of a teaser trailer kind of impression from it. What did you think of the Black Soulstone cinematic though? I thought that was pretty good, with the spooky skeletons and then the demonic Azmodan and his legion at the end, with Leah sniffling... and the only thing I didn't like is Leah's voice doesn't seem to fit at all every other time she speaks (also applicable to this cinematic). They probably chose Leah because she's more relatable to than the guy in D2, but she better grow up fast (and I'm sure she will, she lives in Sanctuary!)
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Ada
Profile Joined October 2004
Germany150 Posts
December 13 2011 21:13 GMT
#114
On December 14 2011 04:56 Sek-Kuar wrote:
However more D3 have in common with D2 the better it will be.


As far as I can see D3 has not much in common with D2 and that's good in my opinion.
driftme
Profile Joined June 2010
United States360 Posts
December 13 2011 21:56 GMT
#115
On December 13 2011 15:43 11cc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:13 Assault_1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun


From metacritic:
Diablo 94
Diablo II 88
Diablo II:LOD 87


this really doesnt mean anything. Metacritic was originally released (live) in 2001. Diablo was released in 1996. The only people who are going on metacritic and reviewing a game thats been out for 5+ years are die hard fans.

metacritic point figures are flawed anyway, its almost just a percent of how many fans reviewed it. hardly anyone rates anything other than a 10 or a 0.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:02:01
December 14 2011 09:00 GMT
#116
On December 14 2011 03:30 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:43 11cc wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:13 Assault_1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun


From metacritic:
Diablo 94
Diablo II 88
Diablo II:LOD 87

oh ok, GTA4 got 10/10 on gamespot so it must be the most fun
jees why'd I play d2 for 5 years when I could've been playing that?


Because you're not gamespot and you like D2 more? I don't know man. Why ask me, I don't care what you play.

On December 14 2011 06:56 driftme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:43 11cc wrote:
On December 13 2011 15:13 Assault_1 wrote:
On December 13 2011 08:23 Toadvine wrote:
Still, you have to admit that Diablo 1 -> Diablo 2 -> LoD is a constant decline in terms of the original gothic atmosphere, and an increasing amount of typical fantasy cliches. This doesn't really have much to do with the colour scheme though.

yet each successive game kicks the shit out of the previous ones in terms of fun


From metacritic:
Diablo 94
Diablo II 88
Diablo II:LOD 87


this really doesnt mean anything. Metacritic was originally released (live) in 2001. Diablo was released in 1996. The only people who are going on metacritic and reviewing a game thats been out for 5+ years are die hard fans.

metacritic point figures are flawed anyway, its almost just a percent of how many fans reviewed it. hardly anyone rates anything other than a 10 or a 0.


Those are scores based on critic reviews, not user reviews. I agree they don't mean that much but I think it still means more than 1 random guys opinion. Except for that 1 random guy of course.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 14 2011 09:14 GMT
#117
HOLY SHI- super epic ass friggin trailers man . i love blizzard cinematics team.
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Kwanny
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany222 Posts
December 18 2011 16:03 GMT
#118
Leah's kinda cute
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
December 18 2011 16:49 GMT
#119
On December 19 2011 01:03 Kwanny wrote:
Leah's kinda cute


I'd hit it
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Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
December 18 2011 19:12 GMT
#120
On December 19 2011 01:49 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 01:03 Kwanny wrote:
Leah's kinda cute


I'd hit it

Puberty's cute
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 21:48:35
December 18 2011 21:47 GMT
#121
On December 13 2011 22:18 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:51 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 1 isnt even supported anymore. Which is fine because everyone cheated at that game since characters were stored clientside (lol). Diablo 2 was a hype machine beyond all belief and Blizzard delivered. LOD brought only 1 extra act which people were underwhelmed about, but in later patches brought in a LOT of content that even modern games cant match. Lord of Destruction is still the best action RPG on the market and regularly retails along with D2 vanilla for 40 dollars. You can't say that about any other game from 10 years ago inside the same genre except for some point and click adventure games.


You are absolutely correct, Diablo 2 is a much better MMO than Diablo 1 was.

In any case, I do agree that overall D2 is much better in terms of gameplay mechanics compared to D1. However, for a lot of people D2 was a disappointment, in that it did away with a lot of things that made D1 what it was, including the atmosphere, the original lore, the roguelike mechanics, etc. D1 was actually very much a simplified roguelike in real-time with great music and art design. In terms of more recent games, it was much more like Dark Souls thematically, than like D2.

If you could have a game with D2's mechanics and D1's atmosphere and focus, I'd be all for it. But I don't think D3 is that game.

So far playing the beta, I feel that, disregarding graphical style, which is obviously different (although from there to childish is an exaggeration imo), D3 feels A LOT closer to D1 than D2 was. I'm one of the people who played D2 for the longest time, but were actually dissapointed by it. I always felt that, relative to each game's times, D1 was far superior to D2 in every aspect.

D2 wasn't bad, it was a great game, but it was rather bland in comparison to D1, it felt less epic, despite the story. It was also a lot easier, and it lacked some of the charm that made, imo, D1 great. One of the big similarities I see between D1 and D3 is the constant action. I feel that in D2 I had to run huge expanses to find enemies to kill, it just made it boring sometimes. The stamina bar was also most likely the worst addition to the game, I'm SO DAMN GLAD they took it away now, it just cut from the action. I remember my most wanted shrine was stamina lol.

I can't really explain it completely, as I feel there's a lot of subjectivity behind this opinion, but I feel D2 was a step too far away from the original, it went too far with the math, tried to make it too complex. D3 looks a lot simpler, while it seems likely is will continue to be very customizable. I like it, I'm enjoying the beta thoroughly, despite the small amount of content.

I also insist, people saying D2 was dark and gothic. I dunno, I just don't see it. It always was just about the killing. Atmosphere wasn't dark at all, I've never thought of the Diablo series like that. D1's intro was a bit spooky and that's about it.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 22:06:41
December 18 2011 21:59 GMT
#122
Diablo 2 had a stamina bar because Diablo 2 had the ability to run. Diablo 1 you only had walking.

So D2 didnt add stamina. They added a running mechanic.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 18 2011 23:11 GMT
#123
On December 19 2011 06:59 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 2 had a stamina bar because Diablo 2 had the ability to run. Diablo 1 you only had walking.

So D2 didnt add stamina. They added a running mechanic.

It still slowed down the pace of the game. Walking speed in D1 was decent considering separation between enemies and size of the maps. Walking speed in D2 was terrible. Be it adding a stamina bar or a running mechanic, it was still horrible, and I'm glad they ditched it.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
December 19 2011 01:54 GMT
#124
well you could always buy stamina pots...
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 19 2011 02:21 GMT
#125
On December 11 2011 15:03 Xxio wrote:
I wish this was 120 minutes long.


Hot damn yes. That trailer was SICK. I always wondered why after the Final Fantasy movie nothing ever came out again that was like that. I absolutely loved it... did it tank? :<
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 19 2011 03:01 GMT
#126
Final Fantasy Spirits within tanked hardcore because it was not very good.

Advent Children, which actually was very good, was thusly never released in the United States or much of the western world.

No one else gives a shit to make anything that looks good. All we get is cheapass Shrek and Toy Story animation over and over.

I guess Avatar? I mean that had live action actors.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 05:01:17
December 19 2011 04:44 GMT
#127
Wrong thread lol!
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 19 2011 06:53 GMT
#128
Anyone who really says that D3 feels darker and has more of a horror feel to it is only saying that because of the blood. D2 was way better so far just comparing Act 1 to Act 1.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 19 2011 13:33 GMT
#129
On December 19 2011 15:53 Silidons wrote:
Anyone who really says that D3 feels darker and has more of a horror feel to it is only saying that because of the blood. D2 was way better so far just comparing Act 1 to Act 1.


Compare the two desert acts. D3 desert act is exactly what D2 desert should have been.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 19 2011 13:38 GMT
#130
On December 19 2011 15:53 Silidons wrote:
Anyone who really says that D3 feels darker and has more of a horror feel to it is only saying that because of the blood. D2 was way better so far just comparing Act 1 to Act 1.

I don't think either game has any horror in it. Which is why I've always found this discussion so strange.
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 19 2011 15:31 GMT
#131
That was fucking beautiful!

Moaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr!
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 19 2011 16:05 GMT
#132
On December 19 2011 22:38 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 15:53 Silidons wrote:
Anyone who really says that D3 feels darker and has more of a horror feel to it is only saying that because of the blood. D2 was way better so far just comparing Act 1 to Act 1.

I don't think either game has any horror in it. Which is why I've always found this discussion so strange.


Yea it is quite odd. D2 you just go around owning shit and having fun. D3 you go around owning shit and having fun. What is this horror people keep speaking about?
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
December 19 2011 16:17 GMT
#133
Gimmie the game, now Blizzard! :D


I too hope they revert the atomosphere back to a more D1 kinda style...The music and the levels just felt abit darker

Loved that you went further and further down in d1 but in d2 you just go all over the place...From a totally lit desert to a jungle that was incredible hard for me to find the way around in and in arc 5 you just went to a cold place in the north. Of course they have to mix it up, but still : )

It seems to be a trend in Blizzard games. Diablo 1 was darker than D2. Warcraft 2 was darker than Warcraft 3. Have to wait and see what happens in D3 and SC2 when the expansions are released! =)

Diablo <3
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
December 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#134
Such a great cinematic. At first I was like "WOW, this is like nothing we have seen from Blizzard before", and then it cuts to Cain, good old Cain... Damn he really looks old in that cinematic though. And weird to see how he ended up under the cathedral, I mean, I don't think I saw a huge hole in it last time I played the beta, will definitely be looking for it next time I play through.

Leah annoys me as a character too, I really hope she dies/turns evil at some point.

And why has this turned into a d3/d2/d1 thread btw? Games change and I'm glad for that, if you don't think Blizzard will learn from their mistakes from earlier games then you are pretty stupid. If you love d2, play d2, if you love d1, play d1... This is d3, if you are expecting them to go back and make it the same as an earlier game, then you will be very disappointed.
RunAwayCactuar
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom54 Posts
December 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#135
D2 is 10+ years old, games evolve, I doubt anyone can name one genre of games that have stayed completely the same with no changes, FPS, RPG, RTS etc

As for the opening cinematic, I loved it but was somewhat dishearted by no release date, I'm really liking the feeling it's giving
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
December 21 2011 23:48 GMT
#136
On December 13 2011 22:18 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 15:51 Medrea wrote:
Diablo 1 isnt even supported anymore. Which is fine because everyone cheated at that game since characters were stored clientside (lol). Diablo 2 was a hype machine beyond all belief and Blizzard delivered. LOD brought only 1 extra act which people were underwhelmed about, but in later patches brought in a LOT of content that even modern games cant match. Lord of Destruction is still the best action RPG on the market and regularly retails along with D2 vanilla for 40 dollars. You can't say that about any other game from 10 years ago inside the same genre except for some point and click adventure games.


You are absolutely correct, Diablo 2 is a much better MMO than Diablo 1 was.

Diablo is not an MMO >_<
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
December 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#137
On December 13 2011 06:35 R0YAL wrote:
Super sexy cinematic! Can't wait to play the full game!
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 14:00 village_idiot wrote:
That was a bit cheesy, but you if the gameplay is good, I won't mind too much.

Also, the meteor is obviously Diablo. I mean, who else would be crashing the old Tristram church than him?

Obviously Diablo? Really? You are so sure that your willing to bet money on it? It could be any one of the Archangels of The Angiris Council, or one of the lesser evils. Hell, it may not even be a living being at all, it could be the Black Soulstone or something else entirely.

I'd like to know how a flaming meteor creating a fiery pit turns into a soothing blue glow in the game.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5499 Posts
December 26 2011 22:15 GMT
#138
I like it
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
December 26 2011 22:54 GMT
#139
On December 19 2011 15:53 Silidons wrote:
Anyone who really says that D3 feels darker and has more of a horror feel to it is only saying that because of the blood. D2 was way better so far just comparing Act 1 to Act 1.


I dont see that at all. Act 1 of D2 did NOT feel that dark to me at all. D3 looks a little better, but I don't think blizz will ever be able to(or maybe not want to?) re-create the mood and atmosphere of D1
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
December 26 2011 22:58 GMT
#140
On December 11 2011 15:03 Xxio wrote:
I wish this was 120 minutes long.

Dear god yes. I'm so excited. Blizzard just has this thing for making good cinematics. I loved the ones from D2 and these are just as good but with better graphics.
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