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On March 22 2011 10:02 Dyme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 09:29 MadCatZ wrote:
i wouldve sponsored IdrA
that guy moved from KOREA to play sc2 in usa(giving up a very sought out for CodeS spot)
if that doesnt show dedication to home country and esports
i dont know what does As I remember it, TLO would have been Code A if he had reached RO64 instead of being injured and returning home. He didn't fail in Korea. And I don't know if there is someone like "the best foreigner". IdrA, Jinro all still manage to lose in tournaments. TLO is really good. And used nukes in GSL.
IIRC he would have been in Code A whether he qualified for GSL3 or not. In fact had he qualified for GSL3 he may have been in code S. I'd have to go back to his numbers and look. I'm 99% positive him and idra lost in the same rounds (ro64 in GSL 1 or 2 and then a ro32 in the other GSL), and idra had the extra ro32 finish to put him into code S.
Also on topic gogo TLO <33
EDIT: nvm wrong about his finishes but right about his points. He would have been in Code A either way (according to the liquipedia page)
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On March 22 2011 10:13 aqui wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 09:55 andrewwiggin wrote:On March 22 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:On March 22 2011 09:26 andrewwiggin wrote:
lol...
I mean I liked him in the beta, but..
.. really? TLO, out of all the SC2 pro players out there? =/
Why do so many people dismiss TLO as a player? He's really, really good - and apart from the time that he was having serious trouble with carpal tunnel, he's been really succesful (winning the pokeridol and qualifying for the TSL). There seems to be such an obsession with playing a style that's considered 'standard' that anyone who sometimes does other styles gets dismissed as a player, no matter how skilled. lol his playstyle? I dont even know his playstyle.. I stopped watching him after the beta. I mean during that, sure he was exciting as hell. Loved looking up youtube vids of him etc. But after that... never saw him place well in major tournaments. =/ So I just stopped following him, started following other players instead. JUST saying. How can you quote someone who explains some of his achievements to you ( qualifying as pointleader for TSL, pokeridol win) and answer to that that you never saw him place well in tournaments?? Besides, before he left Korea he was as succesful as Idra in GSL and the Koreans's dear. With his two ro32 appearences he would have gotten got S, you know...
Actually he had one ro32 and one ro64, so definitely not code S, he would have needed ro16 or ro32 in s3, and his play seemed to be going downhill after season 1.
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On March 22 2011 09:51 delo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 09:29 Antoine wrote:
Ah, this must one of the reasons that he chose to go to MLG instead of try for the GSL World Champions.
It's pretty cool, as someone who's followed MLG pretty much since its inception, to have TLO up next to Tsquared. Tsquared was like their first big star in halo, he had the biggest contract when MLG started doing those, so on and so forth. This is just another sign that MLG is really giving SC2 some major love, hope the fans can step up and reciprocate it! Basically yes. As someone else who's also followed MLG for ages, it's quite a statement by MLG to find an individual sponsorship for an SC2 player along with someone like Tsquared (although I think Walshy and the Ogre twins might have something to say about the "first big star in Halo" assertion :D). TLO has broad appeal, a huge following, and is a top foreigner player -- it's easy to see why Sony Ericsson went with him. Congrats TLO! :D
t2 in ins makes me lol still haha.
I agree with this too though, TLO and t2 getting a sponsorship together is kinda big.
gogo tlo
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Incoming TLO playing sc2 on the Xperia PLAY!!
Sony ftw!
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too bad TLO is overhyped and could only win in beta....
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Is there anybody that doesn't love TLO!? I'm happy to hear that he is getting sponsored by Sony Ericsson.
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Nice TLO, way to get them sponsors!
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I wonder why people hate on the ONLY player who had medical (read: carpel tunnel + bout with chicken box) issues in his career that significantly reduces his performance. It's like, saying to someone "why don't you run at full speed" after they mildly strained a quad earlier in a football game.
TLO is hugely entertaining to watch and on top he's a really good face for the game. He's insightful, successful (why else is he in TSL) and eloquent, I can hardly imagine anyone else that brings the entire package he possesses.
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On March 22 2011 10:50 Juliette wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 09:51 delo wrote:On March 22 2011 09:29 Antoine wrote:
Ah, this must one of the reasons that he chose to go to MLG instead of try for the GSL World Champions.
It's pretty cool, as someone who's followed MLG pretty much since its inception, to have TLO up next to Tsquared. Tsquared was like their first big star in halo, he had the biggest contract when MLG started doing those, so on and so forth. This is just another sign that MLG is really giving SC2 some major love, hope the fans can step up and reciprocate it! Basically yes. As someone else who's also followed MLG for ages, it's quite a statement by MLG to find an individual sponsorship for an SC2 player along with someone like Tsquared (although I think Walshy and the Ogre twins might have something to say about the "first big star in Halo" assertion :D). TLO has broad appeal, a huge following, and is a top foreigner player -- it's easy to see why Sony Ericsson went with him. Congrats TLO! :D t2 in ins makes me lol still haha. I agree with this too though, TLO and t2 getting a sponsorship together is kinda big. gogo tlo
Dude, tell me about it. T2 = Str8 to me...never thought he'd team up with Roybox. Only thing that'd be weirder is if he got on FB somehow.
I can't ever see that happening though :D
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On March 22 2011 10:47 Kvothe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 10:13 aqui wrote:On March 22 2011 09:55 andrewwiggin wrote:On March 22 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:On March 22 2011 09:26 andrewwiggin wrote:
lol...
I mean I liked him in the beta, but..
.. really? TLO, out of all the SC2 pro players out there? =/
Why do so many people dismiss TLO as a player? He's really, really good - and apart from the time that he was having serious trouble with carpal tunnel, he's been really succesful (winning the pokeridol and qualifying for the TSL). There seems to be such an obsession with playing a style that's considered 'standard' that anyone who sometimes does other styles gets dismissed as a player, no matter how skilled. lol his playstyle? I dont even know his playstyle.. I stopped watching him after the beta. I mean during that, sure he was exciting as hell. Loved looking up youtube vids of him etc. But after that... never saw him place well in major tournaments. =/ So I just stopped following him, started following other players instead. JUST saying. How can you quote someone who explains some of his achievements to you ( qualifying as pointleader for TSL, pokeridol win) and answer to that that you never saw him place well in tournaments?? Besides, before he left Korea he was as succesful as Idra in GSL and the Koreans's dear. With his two ro32 appearences he would have gotten got S, you know... Actually he had one ro32 and one ro64, so definitely not code S, he would have needed ro16 or ro32 in s3, and his play seemed to be going downhill after season 1.
He only needed a ro64 to be in Code S. ro64+ro64+ro32=code S (i don't know how this make sense, but trust me it is true.) His slump after season 1 was due to carpal tunnel, but he was still placed 5th in dallas (top ranked zerg). He qualified for TSL recently which is definitely a feat. I hope TLO can do even better this year, and also STICK TO A RACE!
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Great news for TLO!! A player as mannered, creative, and fun to watch deserves some extra attention (and money!)
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On March 22 2011 11:21 godemperor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 10:47 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 10:13 aqui wrote:On March 22 2011 09:55 andrewwiggin wrote:On March 22 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:On March 22 2011 09:26 andrewwiggin wrote:
lol...
I mean I liked him in the beta, but..
.. really? TLO, out of all the SC2 pro players out there? =/
Why do so many people dismiss TLO as a player? He's really, really good - and apart from the time that he was having serious trouble with carpal tunnel, he's been really succesful (winning the pokeridol and qualifying for the TSL). There seems to be such an obsession with playing a style that's considered 'standard' that anyone who sometimes does other styles gets dismissed as a player, no matter how skilled. lol his playstyle? I dont even know his playstyle.. I stopped watching him after the beta. I mean during that, sure he was exciting as hell. Loved looking up youtube vids of him etc. But after that... never saw him place well in major tournaments. =/ So I just stopped following him, started following other players instead. JUST saying. How can you quote someone who explains some of his achievements to you ( qualifying as pointleader for TSL, pokeridol win) and answer to that that you never saw him place well in tournaments?? Besides, before he left Korea he was as succesful as Idra in GSL and the Koreans's dear. With his two ro32 appearences he would have gotten got S, you know... Actually he had one ro32 and one ro64, so definitely not code S, he would have needed ro16 or ro32 in s3, and his play seemed to be going downhill after season 1. He only needed a ro64 to be in Code S. ro64+ro64+ro32=code S (i don't know how this make sense, but trust me it is true.) His slump after season 1 was due to carpal tunnel, but he was still placed 5th in dallas (top ranked zerg). He qualified for TSL recently which is definitely a feat. I hope TLO can do even better this year, and also STICK TO A RACE!
He still would have had to fight for his spot if he got ro64, the 32nd player had those exact same stats, therefore he would not have been guaranteed code s, trust me it's true.
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On March 22 2011 09:26 andrewwiggin wrote:
lol...
I mean I liked him in the beta, but..
.. really? TLO, out of all the SC2 pro players out there? =/
I'm the exact opposite. I thought he was creative but way way overrated in the beta. Now he's become a lot more solid and is a nice representative of international e-sports.
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GRATZ TLO! You're awesome man, easily one of the most enjoyable players to watch in the scene and always delivers a show, thank you man for playing this game and keep on ownin! =D
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On March 22 2011 11:20 delo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 10:50 Juliette wrote:On March 22 2011 09:51 delo wrote:On March 22 2011 09:29 Antoine wrote:
Ah, this must one of the reasons that he chose to go to MLG instead of try for the GSL World Champions.
It's pretty cool, as someone who's followed MLG pretty much since its inception, to have TLO up next to Tsquared. Tsquared was like their first big star in halo, he had the biggest contract when MLG started doing those, so on and so forth. This is just another sign that MLG is really giving SC2 some major love, hope the fans can step up and reciprocate it! Basically yes. As someone else who's also followed MLG for ages, it's quite a statement by MLG to find an individual sponsorship for an SC2 player along with someone like Tsquared (although I think Walshy and the Ogre twins might have something to say about the "first big star in Halo" assertion :D). TLO has broad appeal, a huge following, and is a top foreigner player -- it's easy to see why Sony Ericsson went with him. Congrats TLO! :D t2 in ins makes me lol still haha. I agree with this too though, TLO and t2 getting a sponsorship together is kinda big. gogo tlo Dude, tell me about it. T2 = Str8 to me...never thought he'd team up with Roybox. Only thing that'd be weirder is if he got on FB somehow. I can't ever see that happening though :D
It could happen because Halo pro 4s=tons of immaturity, no team loyalty, and a lot of backstabbing.
Anyway, gratz to TLO, hope MLG does a lot more of these (like they help get other pros individual sponsorships through corporate networking or whatever)
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On March 22 2011 11:30 Kvothe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 11:21 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 10:47 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 10:13 aqui wrote:On March 22 2011 09:55 andrewwiggin wrote:On March 22 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:On March 22 2011 09:26 andrewwiggin wrote:
lol...
I mean I liked him in the beta, but..
.. really? TLO, out of all the SC2 pro players out there? =/
Why do so many people dismiss TLO as a player? He's really, really good - and apart from the time that he was having serious trouble with carpal tunnel, he's been really succesful (winning the pokeridol and qualifying for the TSL). There seems to be such an obsession with playing a style that's considered 'standard' that anyone who sometimes does other styles gets dismissed as a player, no matter how skilled. lol his playstyle? I dont even know his playstyle.. I stopped watching him after the beta. I mean during that, sure he was exciting as hell. Loved looking up youtube vids of him etc. But after that... never saw him place well in major tournaments. =/ So I just stopped following him, started following other players instead. JUST saying. How can you quote someone who explains some of his achievements to you ( qualifying as pointleader for TSL, pokeridol win) and answer to that that you never saw him place well in tournaments?? Besides, before he left Korea he was as succesful as Idra in GSL and the Koreans's dear. With his two ro32 appearences he would have gotten got S, you know... Actually he had one ro32 and one ro64, so definitely not code S, he would have needed ro16 or ro32 in s3, and his play seemed to be going downhill after season 1. He only needed a ro64 to be in Code S. ro64+ro64+ro32=code S (i don't know how this make sense, but trust me it is true.) His slump after season 1 was due to carpal tunnel, but he was still placed 5th in dallas (top ranked zerg). He qualified for TSL recently which is definitely a feat. I hope TLO can do even better this year, and also STICK TO A RACE! He still would have had to fight for his spot if he got ro64, the 32nd player had those exact same stats, therefore he would not have been guaranteed code s, trust me it's true.
But remember one of TLO's opponents (had TLO been in ro64) for code S spot will be legal mind, who is the worst player ever, currently in code B.
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On March 22 2011 11:36 godemperor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 11:30 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 11:21 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 10:47 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 10:13 aqui wrote:On March 22 2011 09:55 andrewwiggin wrote:On March 22 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:On March 22 2011 09:26 andrewwiggin wrote:
lol...
I mean I liked him in the beta, but..
.. really? TLO, out of all the SC2 pro players out there? =/
Why do so many people dismiss TLO as a player? He's really, really good - and apart from the time that he was having serious trouble with carpal tunnel, he's been really succesful (winning the pokeridol and qualifying for the TSL). There seems to be such an obsession with playing a style that's considered 'standard' that anyone who sometimes does other styles gets dismissed as a player, no matter how skilled. lol his playstyle? I dont even know his playstyle.. I stopped watching him after the beta. I mean during that, sure he was exciting as hell. Loved looking up youtube vids of him etc. But after that... never saw him place well in major tournaments. =/ So I just stopped following him, started following other players instead. JUST saying. How can you quote someone who explains some of his achievements to you ( qualifying as pointleader for TSL, pokeridol win) and answer to that that you never saw him place well in tournaments?? Besides, before he left Korea he was as succesful as Idra in GSL and the Koreans's dear. With his two ro32 appearences he would have gotten got S, you know... Actually he had one ro32 and one ro64, so definitely not code S, he would have needed ro16 or ro32 in s3, and his play seemed to be going downhill after season 1. He only needed a ro64 to be in Code S. ro64+ro64+ro32=code S (i don't know how this make sense, but trust me it is true.) His slump after season 1 was due to carpal tunnel, but he was still placed 5th in dallas (top ranked zerg). He qualified for TSL recently which is definitely a feat. I hope TLO can do even better this year, and also STICK TO A RACE! He still would have had to fight for his spot if he got ro64, the 32nd player had those exact same stats, therefore he would not have been guaranteed code s, trust me it's true. But remember one of TLO's opponents (had TLO been in ro64) for code S spot will be legal mind, who is the worst player ever, currently in code B.
I think you mean Jook-to?
Still it's not guaranteed code S, TLO would have had to qualify for ro64, then assuming he gets knocked out, he has to beat Jook-to for the last spot in code s.
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On March 22 2011 11:44 Kvothe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 11:36 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 11:30 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 11:21 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 10:47 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 10:13 aqui wrote:On March 22 2011 09:55 andrewwiggin wrote:On March 22 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:On March 22 2011 09:26 andrewwiggin wrote:
lol...
I mean I liked him in the beta, but..
.. really? TLO, out of all the SC2 pro players out there? =/
Why do so many people dismiss TLO as a player? He's really, really good - and apart from the time that he was having serious trouble with carpal tunnel, he's been really succesful (winning the pokeridol and qualifying for the TSL). There seems to be such an obsession with playing a style that's considered 'standard' that anyone who sometimes does other styles gets dismissed as a player, no matter how skilled. lol his playstyle? I dont even know his playstyle.. I stopped watching him after the beta. I mean during that, sure he was exciting as hell. Loved looking up youtube vids of him etc. But after that... never saw him place well in major tournaments. =/ So I just stopped following him, started following other players instead. JUST saying. How can you quote someone who explains some of his achievements to you ( qualifying as pointleader for TSL, pokeridol win) and answer to that that you never saw him place well in tournaments?? Besides, before he left Korea he was as succesful as Idra in GSL and the Koreans's dear. With his two ro32 appearences he would have gotten got S, you know... Actually he had one ro32 and one ro64, so definitely not code S, he would have needed ro16 or ro32 in s3, and his play seemed to be going downhill after season 1. He only needed a ro64 to be in Code S. ro64+ro64+ro32=code S (i don't know how this make sense, but trust me it is true.) His slump after season 1 was due to carpal tunnel, but he was still placed 5th in dallas (top ranked zerg). He qualified for TSL recently which is definitely a feat. I hope TLO can do even better this year, and also STICK TO A RACE! He still would have had to fight for his spot if he got ro64, the 32nd player had those exact same stats, therefore he would not have been guaranteed code s, trust me it's true. But remember one of TLO's opponents (had TLO been in ro64) for code S spot will be legal mind, who is the worst player ever, currently in code B. I think you mean Jook-to? Still it's not guaranteed code S, TLO would have had to qualify for ro64, then assuming he gets knocked out, he has to beat Jook-to for the last spot in code s.
Well jook-to is also in code B, now. Just saying TLO had a good chance of getting in Code S, as a response to some of the people's hate on TLO. (how can you hate TLO, its almost as bad as hating Jinro, which is almost as bad as hating TL)
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On March 22 2011 11:49 godemperor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 11:44 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 11:36 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 11:30 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 11:21 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 10:47 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 10:13 aqui wrote:On March 22 2011 09:55 andrewwiggin wrote:On March 22 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:On March 22 2011 09:26 andrewwiggin wrote:
lol...
I mean I liked him in the beta, but..
.. really? TLO, out of all the SC2 pro players out there? =/
Why do so many people dismiss TLO as a player? He's really, really good - and apart from the time that he was having serious trouble with carpal tunnel, he's been really succesful (winning the pokeridol and qualifying for the TSL). There seems to be such an obsession with playing a style that's considered 'standard' that anyone who sometimes does other styles gets dismissed as a player, no matter how skilled. lol his playstyle? I dont even know his playstyle.. I stopped watching him after the beta. I mean during that, sure he was exciting as hell. Loved looking up youtube vids of him etc. But after that... never saw him place well in major tournaments. =/ So I just stopped following him, started following other players instead. JUST saying. How can you quote someone who explains some of his achievements to you ( qualifying as pointleader for TSL, pokeridol win) and answer to that that you never saw him place well in tournaments?? Besides, before he left Korea he was as succesful as Idra in GSL and the Koreans's dear. With his two ro32 appearences he would have gotten got S, you know... Actually he had one ro32 and one ro64, so definitely not code S, he would have needed ro16 or ro32 in s3, and his play seemed to be going downhill after season 1. He only needed a ro64 to be in Code S. ro64+ro64+ro32=code S (i don't know how this make sense, but trust me it is true.) His slump after season 1 was due to carpal tunnel, but he was still placed 5th in dallas (top ranked zerg). He qualified for TSL recently which is definitely a feat. I hope TLO can do even better this year, and also STICK TO A RACE! He still would have had to fight for his spot if he got ro64, the 32nd player had those exact same stats, therefore he would not have been guaranteed code s, trust me it's true. But remember one of TLO's opponents (had TLO been in ro64) for code S spot will be legal mind, who is the worst player ever, currently in code B. I think you mean Jook-to? Still it's not guaranteed code S, TLO would have had to qualify for ro64, then assuming he gets knocked out, he has to beat Jook-to for the last spot in code s. Well jook-to is also in code B, now. Just saying TLO had a good chance of getting in Code S, as a response to some of the people's hate on TLO. (how can you hate TLO, its almost as bad as hating Jinro, which is almost as bad as hating TL)
I don't think many do hate TLO, just think his gimmicky play style isn't going to get him far. In my opinion he did well earlier on because people didn't have near the knowledge of the game and he came up with a lot of interesting builds. As time goes on, this style becomes less effective. He must know this and thats why hes changing into more macro oriented. I'm all for TLO doing well, he provides interesting games, but I would rather cheer for someone who can provide results. I am more consistently disappointed in his games than the other way around.
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On March 22 2011 11:54 Kvothe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2011 11:49 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 11:44 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 11:36 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 11:30 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 11:21 godemperor wrote:On March 22 2011 10:47 Kvothe wrote:On March 22 2011 10:13 aqui wrote:On March 22 2011 09:55 andrewwiggin wrote:On March 22 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:
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Why do so many people dismiss TLO as a player? He's really, really good - and apart from the time that he was having serious trouble with carpal tunnel, he's been really succesful (winning the pokeridol and qualifying for the TSL). There seems to be such an obsession with playing a style that's considered 'standard' that anyone who sometimes does other styles gets dismissed as a player, no matter how skilled. lol his playstyle? I dont even know his playstyle.. I stopped watching him after the beta. I mean during that, sure he was exciting as hell. Loved looking up youtube vids of him etc. But after that... never saw him place well in major tournaments. =/ So I just stopped following him, started following other players instead. JUST saying. How can you quote someone who explains some of his achievements to you ( qualifying as pointleader for TSL, pokeridol win) and answer to that that you never saw him place well in tournaments?? Besides, before he left Korea he was as succesful as Idra in GSL and the Koreans's dear. With his two ro32 appearences he would have gotten got S, you know... Actually he had one ro32 and one ro64, so definitely not code S, he would have needed ro16 or ro32 in s3, and his play seemed to be going downhill after season 1. He only needed a ro64 to be in Code S. ro64+ro64+ro32=code S (i don't know how this make sense, but trust me it is true.) His slump after season 1 was due to carpal tunnel, but he was still placed 5th in dallas (top ranked zerg). He qualified for TSL recently which is definitely a feat. I hope TLO can do even better this year, and also STICK TO A RACE! He still would have had to fight for his spot if he got ro64, the 32nd player had those exact same stats, therefore he would not have been guaranteed code s, trust me it's true. But remember one of TLO's opponents (had TLO been in ro64) for code S spot will be legal mind, who is the worst player ever, currently in code B. I think you mean Jook-to? Still it's not guaranteed code S, TLO would have had to qualify for ro64, then assuming he gets knocked out, he has to beat Jook-to for the last spot in code s. Well jook-to is also in code B, now. Just saying TLO had a good chance of getting in Code S, as a response to some of the people's hate on TLO. (how can you hate TLO, its almost as bad as hating Jinro, which is almost as bad as hating TL) I don't think many do hate TLO, just think his gimmicky play style isn't going to get him far. In my opinion he did well earlier on because people didn't have near the knowledge of the game and he came up with a lot of interesting builds. As time goes on, this style becomes less effective. He must know this and thats why hes changing into more macro oriented. I'm all for TLO doing well, he provides interesting games, but I would rather cheer for someone who can provide results. I more consistently disappointed in his games than the other way around.
that I definitely agree with, he use to rely on gimmicks to win during the beta, how he is using some of these to complement his play. His last few games in the GCPL has been very underwhelming, but hey qualifying for TSL with highest amount of point aint bad either. Hope he choose a race and improves his game.
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