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Blurb
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark55 Posts
February 18 2011 07:21 GMT
#201
Useful advice that is easily identifiable, fuck yeah!
I have a signature.
Eviltoast
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia166 Posts
February 18 2011 08:57 GMT
#202
Awesome idea, now we can see who actually is good
it's copacetic... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mofisto
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom585 Posts
February 18 2011 10:51 GMT
#203
Excellent idea, should make finding worthwhile posts all the easier. I still think theres more which can be done, but definitely a step in the right direction.
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
February 18 2011 11:11 GMT
#204
You coul add some option that could be changed in the profile page, where we can choose the colour of the highlighted posts.

Ofc you could make us choose between 3 or something, but at least that would give the users some kind of choice.

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
February 18 2011 11:49 GMT
#205
Oh, this is good stuff
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
February 18 2011 12:05 GMT
#206
How about an icon to the thread, so you can identify discussions where those "trusted" users contributed? Very similiar to the battle.net forums where you can see on the spot in which thread a blizz employee has posted.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
February 18 2011 14:32 GMT
#207
I looked forward to this change for a long time. I feel its the right decision.
I was a bit suprised that iEchoic isnt on the list. But I trust you as allways to keep on doing the right decisions.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 18 2011 17:18 GMT
#208
On February 18 2011 21:05 Argoth. wrote:
How about an icon to the thread, so you can identify discussions where those "trusted" users contributed? Very similiar to the battle.net forums where you can see on the spot in which thread a blizz employee has posted.

Been discussed many times.
Moderator
Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
February 18 2011 19:09 GMT
#209
It's a step in the right direction, but you still get some hilarious threads where Gold league ballers try to tell minigun his strats are bad.

Actually, this is better. I like hilarious threads.
10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 21:43:06
February 18 2011 21:28 GMT
#210
I guess the advantages of this outweigh the disadvantages, but that is about all I can say.
So highlighted users are more likely to know what they are talking about, and this generality is pointed out to others. Does not make me want to post more. Lets see if any top players start posting/more eh.

The op mentions not alienating new members and strong players being ignored or attacked. Well I'll show you an instance of this. Take this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192658&currentpage=7
Markwerf points out that 2gate production is preferred and more efficient. CecilSunkre says no, and types "People like you posting make me hate this entire forum." Unfortunately, Merkwerf responds with some hate, and is temp banned. Lastly, CecilSunkre gives up addressing the point directly and ends "you're just flaming me and being a troll without actually contributing anything to it." Guess who was more correct on this point of strategy? Merkwerf. Guess who the highlighted user is? Cecilsunkre. Surely anyone can see how responding to hate, yet also being more right on the point, then being banned seems not quite justice and is alienating from the community.
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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 23:06:38
February 18 2011 23:05 GMT
#211
On February 19 2011 06:28 Knickknack wrote:
I guess the advantages of this outweigh the disadvantages, but that is about all I can say.
So highlighted users are more likely to know what they are talking about, and this generality is pointed out to others. Does not make me want to post more. Lets see if any top players start posting/more eh.

The op mentions not alienating new members and strong players being ignored or attacked. Well I'll show you an instance of this. Take this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192658&currentpage=7
Markwerf points out that 2gate production is preferred and more efficient. CecilSunkre says no, and types "People like you posting make me hate this entire forum." Unfortunately, Merkwerf responds with some hate, and is temp banned. Lastly, CecilSunkre gives up addressing the point directly and ends "you're just flaming me and being a troll without actually contributing anything to it." Guess who was more correct on this point of strategy? Merkwerf. Guess who the highlighted user is? Cecilsunkre. Surely anyone can see how responding to hate, yet also being more right on the point, then being banned seems not quite justice and is alienating from the community.

That actually happened before the highlighting happened, so him on I were both non-highlighted. Also, I kept telling that dude to provide some evidence to his claims like I was, and he just flamed me. If you want to also claim he was more right, you'd need evidence just like Markwerf did.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 19 2011 00:03 GMT
#212
On February 19 2011 06:28 Knickknack wrote:
I guess the advantages of this outweigh the disadvantages, but that is about all I can say.
So highlighted users are more likely to know what they are talking about, and this generality is pointed out to others. Does not make me want to post more. Lets see if any top players start posting/more eh.

The op mentions not alienating new members and strong players being ignored or attacked. Well I'll show you an instance of this. Take this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192658&currentpage=7
Markwerf points out that 2gate production is preferred and more efficient. CecilSunkre says no, and types "People like you posting make me hate this entire forum." Unfortunately, Merkwerf responds with some hate, and is temp banned. Lastly, CecilSunkre gives up addressing the point directly and ends "you're just flaming me and being a troll without actually contributing anything to it." Guess who was more correct on this point of strategy? Merkwerf. Guess who the highlighted user is? Cecilsunkre. Surely anyone can see how responding to hate, yet also being more right on the point, then being banned seems not quite justice and is alienating from the community.


Markwerf was trolling, and he does that in a lot of threads. This highlighting system lets people know that he is not worth listening to, and that thread doesn't really show any indication that this is an untrue statement. I dunno about you, but I'd rather read strategy posts from people who are good at the game.
s031720
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden383 Posts
February 19 2011 01:37 GMT
#213
Best news since sliced bread. Seems like a good compromise between elitism and noobhugging. I hope this will fix alot of the frustration felt about the strategy forum. GG WP.
Just another noob
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
February 19 2011 07:35 GMT
#214
This is an awesome idea, but please keep this list VERY exclusive...
Apologize.
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
February 19 2011 07:50 GMT
#215
Well done! I'm glad this has been implemented. It makes sifting through really long, opinionated threads much more bearable. Props to all the TL who put in the hard work for this.
Micro your Macro
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
February 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#216
I didnt read the whole thread but i think its bad to have highlighted users because it simply kills a lot of discussion due to the fact that nobody wants to look stupid and make a "bad" post after some highlighted guy expressed his opinion and it doesnt really matter if the highlighted guy is wrong or just doesnt know a build that can deal with the problem.
zenyu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States74 Posts
February 19 2011 18:12 GMT
#217
On February 17 2011 21:32 Chill wrote:
<font size='3'><b><center>Strategy Forum Changes - Highlighted Users</b></center></font>
TL has been aware of the issues with the Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum. Users' frustrations can easily be found with a simple search http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=strategy forum

The goal of the TL Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum has always been to elevate the level of discussion without alienating newer or weaker members. Strong players feel helpless when posting advice because their advice is easily ignored or immediately attacked, while creating a pros-only forum has the possibility of becoming an inactive waste.

To maintain the level of activity in the Strategy Forum, while placing emphasis on the opinions of strong players, TL has created Highlighted Users:

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Whenever a Highlighted Poster makes any post in the Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum, it becomes highlighted. A Highlighted Poster is a poster who can be counted upon to provide accurate comments. Highlighted Posters are those who show the highest level of understanding of the game. Highlighted Posters will not always be right, and highlighting should not be seen as a substitute of lively debate in the strategy forum. But we believe that posters who contribute to the strategy forum should be rewarded and given the respect that their diligence deserves!

The criteria for becoming a Highlighted User is quite subjective. Some combination of tournament results, high-level play, and Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum activity will earn you Highlighted User status. Requesting status will never be approved. Below are the list of pre-approved Highlighted Users.

Current List of Highlighted Users:
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Anihc
Antimage
Artosis
Catz.root
CecilSunkure
DarKFoRcE
drewbie.root
IdrA
iNcontroL
kcdc
LaLuSh
Liquid`Tyler
Liquid`Ret
Liquid`Haypro
Liquid`HuK
Liquid`TLO
Liquid`Jinro
merz
Minigun
MorroW
qxc
RyanRushia
Saracen
Sheth
sleepingdog
whiplash
Zelniq
Zerg~Legend

This list is by no means final. We will continually be adding users as we see them posting in the strategy forum. Obviously a lot of top level players are missing from this list, and there is very good reason for that. Up until now top level players have tended to avoid the strategy forum and refrained from posting in it. Without any prior posts in the strategy forum it is impossible for us to assess whether the information the top level player is providing is helpful or not. If top level players choose to participate in the strategy forum and contribute good advice they will be added to the list. The same goes for anyone - people contributing consistent accurate top quality advice will always be added to the list.

Also please keep in mind that just because you are on the list, doesn't mean you're going to stay there. If we notice that your advice and posts start to become unhelpful in the strategy forum your highlighting will be revoked, simple as that. We have also implemented strategy forum temp bans for users who are being unhelpful and annoying in the strategy forum.

If you would like to nominate someone for post highlighting please use this thread.

Congratulations to our foundation highlighted posters! And we look forward to welcoming many more over the years to come.

How do we search for highlighted posts?
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
February 20 2011 04:34 GMT
#218
Yay some form of change for the strategy forum excited to see if this has any impact on the overall quality of the forum thanks TL
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 13:19:03
February 20 2011 18:27 GMT
#219
The wise speak only of what they know
-Gandalf


I think that highlighted posters should be held to a higher standard especially in regards to civility. You can tell someone they are wrong and explain why but no amount of being right justifies calling someone an idiot or similar misconduct. Behavior such as that does not contribute in any way to the discussion or the Starcraft community.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 21 2011 14:34 GMT
#220
On February 17 2011 21:50 Mr.Brightside wrote:

I think the people TL have specifically selected do not have a reputation for this kind of abuse of power. Chill stated that if you want to be a highlighted user then you can't demand it so I'm sure they will only select more suitable people that aren't going to deter others from posting. The forums are highly moderated so I think if someone abuses this power they will probably have it revoked.

Yeah. That's why IdrA is on that list.
On a more serious note: I really think this is a great idea that will help distinguishing useful posts from the lesser useful ones.
currently rooting for myself.
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