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Calgary25974 Posts
Strategy Forum Changes - Highlighted Users
TL has been aware of the issues with the Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum. Users' frustrations can easily be found with a simple search http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=strategy forum
The goal of the TL Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum has always been to elevate the level of discussion without alienating newer or weaker members. Strong players feel helpless when posting advice because their advice is easily ignored or immediately attacked, while creating a pros-only forum has the possibility of becoming an inactive waste.
To maintain the level of activity in the Strategy Forum, while placing emphasis on the opinions of strong players, TL has created Highlighted Users:
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Whenever a Highlighted Poster makes any post in the Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum, it becomes highlighted. A Highlighted Poster is a poster who can be counted upon to provide accurate comments. Highlighted Posters are those who show the highest level of understanding of the game. Highlighted Posters will not always be right, and highlighting should not be seen as a substitute of lively debate in the strategy forum. But we believe that posters who contribute to the strategy forum should be rewarded and given the respect that their diligence deserves!
The criteria for becoming a Highlighted User is quite subjective. Some combination of tournament results, high-level play, and Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum activity will earn you Highlighted User status. Requesting status will never be approved. Below are the list of pre-approved Highlighted Users.
Current List of Highlighted Users:
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This list is by no means final. We will continually be adding users as we see them posting in the strategy forum. Obviously a lot of top level players are missing from this list, and there is very good reason for that. Up until now top level players have tended to avoid the strategy forum and refrained from posting in it. Without any prior posts in the strategy forum it is impossible for us to assess whether the information the top level player is providing is helpful or not. If top level players choose to participate in the strategy forum and contribute good advice they will be added to the list. The same goes for anyone - people contributing consistent accurate top quality advice will always be added to the list.
Also please keep in mind that just because you are on the list, doesn't mean you're going to stay there. If we notice that your advice and posts start to become unhelpful in the strategy forum your highlighting will be revoked, simple as that. We have also implemented strategy forum temp bans for users who are being unhelpful and annoying in the strategy forum.
If you would like to nominate someone for post highlighting please use this thread.
Congratulations to our foundation highlighted posters! And we look forward to welcoming many more over the years to come.
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This is a cool way! Good job
COngratz to all the highligted posters
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Wonderful. Would love to see SjoW on that list as well, he contributes from time to time doesnt he?
Anyway, great idea. Hope it helps to improve the Strategy forums.
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This is great. Would be awesome to see MrBitter on there 
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Great idea imho, looking forward to see this and the highlighted users in action.
Thanks TL!
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Doesn't look like it with the current list, but I have to wonder if this will some day become a sort of "I'm a highlighted user you need to listen to me" as a replacement to general debate and discussion as to why something is the case... or even if the list gets quite large, people may begin to ignore non-highlighted users just on the basis that they, well, aren't highlighted.
I suppose it depends how long this list eventually gets, and who happens to be on it. We shall have to see.
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Hyrule19012 Posts
How you gonna give Artosis highlighting and now Tasteless?
Also, Day9? Raelcun? Wolf? BigT?
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Cool feature. Will make looking for useful info a lot more easier, thanks. :D
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Incredible idea, but I think I would almost prefer if the forum was more heavily moderated so that crap posts were deleted.
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On February 17 2011 21:39 TheValley wrote:
eee day9? :D
He doesn't seem to post any more really.
i think MrBitter seems a good shout, i[echoic] (is that the right way of putting it?) too maybe. hopefully this'll be helpful
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Awesome. Been waiting for you guys to implement it since the idea first popped up. It's really nice on the eyes too. <3
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Awesome news, I hope that you also include a way to filter posts or some way to note when a highlighted user has posted a reply in a topic and go immediately to that post.
Can't wait to see what this brings. =)
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On February 17 2011 21:42 tofucake wrote:
How you gonna give Artosis highlighting and now Tasteless?
Also, Day9? Raelcun? Wolf? BigT?
The list isn't final >_>.
I like this idea very much, even though I never post nor frequent the strategy forums this seems to be a good solution to the problems people are experiencing.
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a very good first step, i hope there will be more.
The list is also very good, i hope it will get extended a bit
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On February 17 2011 21:41 phyre112 wrote:
Doesn't look like it with the current list, but I have to wonder if this will some day become a sort of "I'm a highlighted user you need to listen to me" as a replacement to general debate and discussion as to why something is the case... or even if the list gets quite large, people may begin to ignore non-highlighted users just on the basis that they, well, aren't highlighted.
I suppose it depends how long this list eventually gets, and who happens to be on it. We shall have to see.
I think the people TL have specifically selected do not have a reputation for this kind of abuse of power. Chill stated that if you want to be a highlighted user then you can't demand it so I'm sure they will only select more suitable people that aren't going to deter others from posting. The forums are highly moderated so I think if someone abuses this power they will probably have it revoked.
I think perhaps you have a point about people not listening to non-highlighted users, but the strategy forum is for well, strategising. So it's whatever opinions people want to express, there are often many ways of doing one thing, it's just up to the highlighted users to give a well-informed outlook on what they think is best.
I think the highlighted users is a great idea because it means when I want to look up something I don't have to constantly read useless posts about people arguing about balance which often works its way into a lot of strategy threads.
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My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 17 2011 21:55 xtfftc wrote:
My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that?
If we were to implement this at the moment, it wouldn't be useful in most threads due to the small number of users on the highlight list. This is something we will consider once the list has grown more.
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Seems like a simple, elegant solution to what has been a major problem on the TL boards. It's going to be quite interesting to see the influx of professional advice onto the boards, and hopefully more pros commenting will elevate the level of discussion on TL. I for one am very happy with this brilliantly simple solution.
It also really reminds me of the "blue posts" on the Battle.net forums, which have been a major source of information over the years.
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Being automatically highlighted every time you say something does bring in some level of expectation/pressure.
I hope this doesn't scare the highlighted users off posting. Especially when sharing their personal, subjective, controversial, experimental, or innovative thoughts.
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On February 17 2011 21:57 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 21:55 xtfftc wrote:
My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that? If we were to implement this at the moment, it wouldn't be useful in most threads due to the small number of users on the highlight list. This is something we will consider once the list has grown more.
How about an "Ignore this user's posts from now on" link?
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Finally, I have been waiting for this to come. Good Job TL!!!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
what if I make a really good post on the strategy forum,will that one post at least be highlighted?
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Feedback for additional features:
This looks alot like the blizzard "blue posts", as in their forums posts from blizzard employees are very distinguishable from the posts of normal users.
Would be nice to also get the other features the blizzard forums have:
1) Mark threads that have at least one "highlighted" post
2) Links on highlighted posts that go directly to the next highlighted 
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Very Nice!I will be spending my lunch break surfing the strategy forum now. Thank you!
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Nice work, should help out strategy forum abit.
Would be even nicer if you could see the highlighted posts right under the original posts. So that when you highlight one it becomed the 2nd post in the threat, when you highlight another it becomes the 3rd one and so on. Then i dont have to look thru 5 pages of spam to find one good post =P
Rating comments is another method of doing it. So you can press + or - on a comment, and when it gets 10+ (or whatever) it becomes highlighted, making it easier to spot good comments from none highlighted ppl.
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Hmmm, is it just me or the highlight is not pronounced enough?
Seems to blended in with the other post for me, to be honest.
Or is that my monitor settings?!?
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Excellent idea. really like this one. It seems like a pretty simple solution to all the clutter that can fill the strategy forums from time to time. Hopefully more pro's will enter the discussion on TL now!
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Finally! I am very pleased with this implementation. =D
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This is a great idea.
I hope it works the way it's intended to :}
//tx
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Oh My God... Thank you tl.. Hope this will at least start to elevate the strategy forums! <3
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haven't visited the strategy forums in a while but this will have me searching through more of the threads in there. if the threads with highlighted posts in them were somehow featured with a star or something that would help a lot too imo
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Canada13386 Posts
I really like how the bluehighlighting is very subtle and fits in well with the TL layout and colour scheme. Well done TL staff well done
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Australia326 Posts
Love this idea.
Hopefully the list will grow as more qualified contributors become willing to share their knowledge in the strategy section.
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Such a great feature, i hope in the near future that these "blue guys" will post more and more stuff.
It was quite painful to browse these topics without really knowing who's-who and trustful writers.
Btw, i'm sorry but is there some known players under some nicknames in the list ? Because i'm not so familiar with some of them (like Anihc, CecilSunkure, kcdc, RyanRushia, sleepingdog, whiplash, Zerg~Legend, for example). 
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IdrA is in the list...
"A Highlighted Poster is a poster who can be counted upon to provide accurate comments"
*PARADOX*
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Really cool idea! This will be really helpful when trying to find good answers. Also, like many users have already said, you guys should add Day9 there
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Nice thing to add, I think it will improve the future of how strategy is discussed on TL. GJGJ.
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I don't think there's any need adding people for the list purely for symbolic reasons. Tasteless and Day[9] don't really post much, especially not in the strategy forum, so there's really no need.
That said, the current selections are brilliant. Love the inclusion of CecilSunkure.
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South Africa4316 Posts
On February 17 2011 22:10 Klaent wrote:
Would be even nicer if you could see the highlighted posts right under the original posts. So that when you highlight one it becomed the 2nd post in the threat, when you highlight another it becomes the 3rd one and so on. Then i dont have to look thru 5 pages of spam to find one good post =P
I think posts like these miss the point of highlighting a bit. Posts are highlighted because they can be trusted, not because they answer the thread. That is to say, jumping from one highlighted post to another will probably not make sense, since most of those posts will be responding to some discussion going on in the thread. The purpose of highlighted posters is not to stop other people from discussing the topic and giving strategic insight, it's to make readers pay more attention and give more respect to certain posts.
For example, if qxc says that 1rax expand is very risky against Protoss, then readers can see that he is a highlighted poster, and as such, they won't just call him a noob and say they saw someone in GSL do it. However, qxc saying that 1rax expand is risky against Protoss is not the answer to a thread on fast expands against Protoss, it is simply a part of the discussion. We don't want to say that normal posts be less informative, instead, we want users to realise that certain posts are more informative and dependable.
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On February 17 2011 22:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
what if I make a really good post on the strategy forum,will that one post at least be highlighted?
Hopefully there will be a highlighted member who quotes it and agrees with it. Generally speaking, outstanding posts will be spotlighted one way or another (or so we hope). I actually made this suggestion internally and the argument against it is that it encourages "you should highlight X post" spam.
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Great idea! I read the strategy forum to be amused by the bad ideas though 
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On February 17 2011 21:57 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 21:55 xtfftc wrote:
My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that? If we were to implement this at the moment, it wouldn't be useful in most threads due to the small number of users on the highlight list. This is something we will consider once the list has grown more.
On top of this I would LOVE to be able to see on the main forum page which threads have highlighted posts so I can immediately find them.
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Wow :D if I remember right it was Chill? or was it kennigit who said it on SotG that they were working on this. Finally glad to see got through :D Guess strategy is going to be unminimized and going to be lots of looking. First post I saw after 5-6 months was about Cecilsunkere saying about the 3stalker opening to delay 4gate push which Artosis made a video about. I really like it!
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Let us see if this changes the Strategy forum for the better. Most of the users that are on the list will most likely anyways get a lot of attention. But for members that don't know them, a highlight might scare them from throwing random ideas at them.
Hwaiting!
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Think this is a great idea. Good work TL.
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I really like this idea, it actually might make the strategy forum used for pros to spread their ideas on TL instead of in person or Bnet. I hope this eventually turns into putting amazingly thought out strats on the SC2 TL wiki, so lower level players can start playing and having fun with many different BOs.
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I think putting a little icon by a thread containing a blue post and direct linking the post below the title will show there is a useful response in it.
I mean, you can look at this system as either a way of making sure people know who to weigh more highly in a discussion so those people will post OR you can look at this system as a sort of Quality Control on the strategy forum because blue posts won't appear in threads that don't have enough useful discussion.
I'm not implying there is an XOR relationship but rather the opposite here. In my view, this system is to encourage skilled players to post and act as some form of Quality Control on threads. My claim is that if you mark the list of threads in such a way that blues are visible when casually browsing, you'll draw attention to useful thought out advice.
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You should also add people who are respected amateur and semi-pro players rather than just pros as you have it now.
People on this list would include people like:
iEchoic
Pokebunny
Madison
They post more often and offer sane advice because they know the game well enough to be aware of the fact that they have limits to their knowledge.
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Extremely happy to see something like this implemented.
The strategy forum desperately needs it.
I cannot wait for this list to grow. Will definitely be a great aid.
Well done TL Staff, well done indeed.
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Great move by TL, will be able to venture into the sc2 boards once again
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United States2294 Posts
nice, I am excited to see this at work. I am happy to see DarkForce made the list as well, always love his zerg advice
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Just a quick question are these people also highlighted in the Threads where patch notes are posted?
Because they are generally in the sc2forum posted (i think) and all i really want to read in those threads are the opinions of people that would fit in the category of being highlighted
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Good feature, i'll keep a eye on those.
Also, IdrA highlighted?Probably flamewars incoming.
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On February 17 2011 23:26 antilyon wrote:
Good feature, i'll keep a eye on those.
Also, IdrA highlighted?Probably flamewars incoming.
IdrA is tip-top level player, flaming will only happen because people with less than 100 posts want to make a name for themselves and either be his fanboy or anti-IdrA.
He knows his stuff and if he ever did post in the strategy section, it isn't going to be a horrible one liner unless the OP doesn't have any original thought to his post.
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Aw, I didn't make the list. Then again, I rarely post in the strategy forum anyway because I know how bad it can get. :/ This is a much better idea than any other I heard. Great initiative. Wish I thought of it myself.
You guys should be able to read between the lines if certain bias presents itself.
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This is a terrible idea, elitist attitude. I occasionally post advice in strategy and each strategy post is filled with feedback from different mindsets/users and there's probably thousands of people out there with valid strategy points. Are you going to add them all? By the size and scope of this list, it looks like you're just making a list of well known players and stroking their egos.
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I think this will be very good for the community. Will make it easier to sift through long strategy posts. Admittedly there are some folks missing from this list that should be there, but as you say, it will expand in time. One guy is MrBitter whose strategy advice has helped me personally, and he just posted a very well written ZvT Infestor strategy guide a few days ago.
I doubt that any pressure created by the "Blue Post" status will affect the content of the posts, however. These players are widely respected and the only kind of people who would trash them needlessly are trolls anyway, you know?
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Nice add. A good solution to this problem. I did not think you could manage to do something about it.
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i love the idea and can't wait for how it will work out. i think there were some pretty healthy suggestions for further implementations as well, which would be awesome to see. gogo TL strategy
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What an awesome way to address the current shortcomings of the strategy forum. This approach is truly beautiful and I'm impressed, partly because I imagined the forum as already having been abandoned even by the staff.
This might just make it useful again.
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Zurich15324 Posts
On February 17 2011 23:45 BattRoll wrote:
This is a terrible idea, elitist attitude. I occasionally post advice in strategy and each strategy post is filled with feedback from different mindsets/users and there's probably thousands of people out there with valid strategy points. Are you going to add them all? By the size and scope of this list, it looks like you're just making a list of well known players and stroking their egos.
No we are only going to add top players. Can you expand on why this is a terrible idea? We are not adding them to stroke their ego but to make it easier for the reader to find meaningful advice.
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such a great idea. I haven't used the strategy section in a while. maybe that will change now
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Great news, heard about it on State of the Game and couldn't wait for it after then. Glad to see it implemented.
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like the idea a lot, but the chosen color for highlighting really bothers me from a design standpoint. A more organic change is far less intrusive but still adheres to the purpose of these highlights.
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/EFPeC.png)
highlight color: #f0f5f8
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great feature. now maybe someday some bronzer won't call me a retard for claiming 4gate isn't the only thing that can win against a 4gate..
one can only dream O_O
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I like it, and appreciate and admire the quick response time from the thread going up to you publucizing a solution.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Cool idea bit the initial list seems questionable to me. I have never seen some of these users post in the strategy forum and I'd like to think I've read most of the posts on the sc2 strategy forum lol
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I find it most amusing that Idra is in the list. Will he be highlighted in the automated ban list too? :p
+ Show Spoiler +Serious responses need not bother, the cheek is firmly around the tongue.
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Russian Federation949 Posts
Can you please add Day 9 to the list? cause he has amazing theoretical insight
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Nice work, but the problem still remains of having to browse through a massive 20 page+ thread to find that one insightful and good post, just now its easier to spot because of the color rather than just looking at the names.
I'd really like a button so i can jump directly to a highlighted reply for given thread rather than having to browse through the entire thread.
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Highlighted Users is a good first step. There needs to be a way to identify threads with Highlighted Users, and a way to jump to the Highlighted Users posts.
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Do they only get highlighted in the strategy section?
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This is an excellent idea. I have a great recommendation I will post as well.. I am so glad TL is finally doing something about this. I think it will be great for players that are really trying to filter info as well.
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On February 17 2011 23:56 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 23:45 BattRoll wrote:
This is a terrible idea, elitist attitude. I occasionally post advice in strategy and each strategy post is filled with feedback from different mindsets/users and there's probably thousands of people out there with valid strategy points. Are you going to add them all? By the size and scope of this list, it looks like you're just making a list of well known players and stroking their egos. No we are only going to add top players. Can you expand on why this is a terrible idea? We are not adding them to stroke their ego but to make it easier for the reader to find meaningful advice.
Well, basically you're catering to what? Is Idra going to explain to a bronze league player that Ultras/Broodlords are bad against protoss in late game because at a pro level, he seems to think this is true? That's just one example of how elevating someone's opinion is doing a disservice to others. Especially true considering 99% of the people posting/reading the strategy forum probably gain no real practical knowledge by following these pro gamers' advice.
I have no problem with you tagging people - but why not do it in a more constructive way? Why not link team liquid profiles to the sc2ranks database and show their ladder ranking? And let users search for posts based on this? That way if somebody wants to read master league strategy, they can filter this way. I am certain there are plenty of occasional posters that are highly ranked competitive players - that would not be included on this elitist list and have their opinions discredited by the fact that they aren't on "the list"
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On February 17 2011 21:59 mrdx wrote:
Being automatically highlighted every time you say something does bring in some level of expectation/pressure.
I hope this doesn't scare the highlighted users off posting. Especially when sharing their personal, subjective, controversial, experimental, or innovative thoughts.
I would assume if someone doesn't want to be highlighted they won't be. If they accept they are most likely fine with whatever it brings. And it isn't really that different from before, only slightly more people will notice when someone like Idra make a post.
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Hyrule19012 Posts
The Strategy forums still scare me. Do threads with highlighted posts get a little highlight in the forum index as well?
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My question is, what distinguishes a quality poster with a blue star (like infinity21), from one of these highlighted members? I look at blue starred posters the same way I would now look at these highlighted ones. Should these members get highlights as well?
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Zurich15324 Posts
On February 18 2011 00:20 BattRoll wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 23:56 zatic wrote:On February 17 2011 23:45 BattRoll wrote:
This is a terrible idea, elitist attitude. I occasionally post advice in strategy and each strategy post is filled with feedback from different mindsets/users and there's probably thousands of people out there with valid strategy points. Are you going to add them all? By the size and scope of this list, it looks like you're just making a list of well known players and stroking their egos. No we are only going to add top players. Can you expand on why this is a terrible idea? We are not adding them to stroke their ego but to make it easier for the reader to find meaningful advice. I have no problem with you tagging people - but why not do it in a more constructive way? Why not link team liquid profiles to the sc2ranks database and show their ladder ranking? And let users search for posts based on this? That way if somebody wants to read master league strategy, they can filter this way. I am certain there are plenty of occasional posters that are highly ranked competitive players - that would not be included on this elitist list and have their opinions discredited by the fact that they aren't on "the list"
We have discussed this, but for one it's technically not feasible, and also we want to avoid that people think they know what they are talking about because they are high diamond. Or that they think their opinion is more worth than someone's a league lower.
If you can name highly ranked players that post in the forum and are not in the list please nominate them in the thread in the Website forum. The list in the OP is meant to grow over time.
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I think this is a great feature. From now on I have a much easier time go see replys from users like Darkforce.
I also hope that highlighted users feel encouraged to most more since they now have better visibility. This change will not reduce the amount of low-tier advise but could increase the number of high-level advise.
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On February 17 2011 21:41 phyre112 wrote:
Doesn't look like it with the current list, but I have to wonder if this will some day become a sort of "I'm a highlighted user you need to listen to me" as a replacement to general debate and discussion as to why something is the case... or even if the list gets quite large, people may begin to ignore non-highlighted users just on the basis that they, well, aren't highlighted.
I suppose it depends how long this list eventually gets, and who happens to be on it. We shall have to see.
I don't know how this is supposed to be bad.
The quality of posters there is REALLY REALLY bad these days, and I usually don't even read threads there anymore, usually I see what the first post is about and scroll down looking for known names and read only those posts.
Years back it wasn't an issue, but today it is totally justified to have these.
On February 17 2011 22:00 mrdx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 21:57 Plexa wrote:On February 17 2011 21:55 xtfftc wrote:
My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that? If we were to implement this at the moment, it wouldn't be useful in most threads due to the small number of users on the highlight list. This is something we will consider once the list has grown more. How about an "Ignore this user's posts from now on" link?
And I second, third and forth the petition to have a "ignore poster" button that makes all this poster's posts invisible!
But that not only in strategy forums, but forum-wide.
On February 17 2011 22:05 Starfox wrote:Feedback for additional features: This looks alot like the blizzard "blue posts", as in their forums posts from blizzard employees are very distinguishable from the posts of normal users. Would be nice to also get the other features the blizzard forums have: 1) Mark threads that have at least one "highlighted" post 2) Links on highlighted posts that go directly to the next highlighted
I agree with above and second that too.
And if I may suggest, give the power to highlighted posters to highlight posts they deem worth, even if it is not from a highlighted member (and lock edit in that post after that).
On February 17 2011 22:57 Saracen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 22:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
what if I make a really good post on the strategy forum,will that one post at least be highlighted? Hopefully there will be a highlighted member who quotes it and agrees with it. Generally speaking, outstanding posts will be spotlighted one way or another (or so we hope). I actually made this suggestion internally and the argument against it is that it encourages "you should highlight X post" spam.
I just saw this. But what if this kind of post was a warnable/banable offense?
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On February 18 2011 00:28 Synystyr wrote:
My question is, what distinguishes a quality poster with a blue star (like infinity21), from one of these highlighted members? I look at blue starred posters the same way I would now look at these highlighted ones. Should these members get highlights as well?
The blue star is given to members who contribute to the community in general (i got mine for translating, for instance). The highlight is specific to the sc2 strat forum.
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Very nice idea, will make browsing strategy much better. The list of players looks pretty good, but what about VTWhiplash? 3200 masters is good enough for this? I have not browsed that strat forums very often so maybe he just makes nice posts, but if this is chosen by skill I think 3200 is a low bar to set.
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United States4796 Posts
Looks like a respectable idea. Good luck and hope it works out! :D
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Awesome addition.
This may not be the place to suggest it, but what are the chances of adding a feature that allows you to either only see highlighted posts in the thread, or skip to the next highlighted post? I find it tedious to wade through the 90% theorycraft to get to the 2 actual posts in each thread (this is only intended for really large threads obviously, as I'm not too lazy to click through 3 pages to see if anyone noteworthy responded).
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I think this is a step in the right direction. The influx of new members to this new community has inflated the need for people to be heard and feel important. This can help quiet the uniformed and insubstantial posters, but in the end it will have to fall on the masses to maintain a certain level of quality.
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Great, great idea, I think this is going to work really good, or at least I hope that
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On February 18 2011 00:43 CheeseGrater wrote:
Very nice idea, will make browsing strategy much better. The list of players looks pretty good, but what about VTWhiplash? 3200 masters is good enough for this? I have not browsed that strat forums very often so maybe he just makes nice posts, but if this is chosen by skill I think 3200 is a low bar to set.
I don't think ladder ranking should have anything to do with it (not does it have much to do with skill for that matter). You can basically 4 gate your way to high masters, and be none the wiser.
As OP said, good and helpful posts in the strategy forum will get you listed.
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This is a step in the right direction =) Looking forward to more features that help the strategy forum.
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Calgary25974 Posts
On February 18 2011 00:53 JamesSwift wrote:
Awesome addition.
This may not be the place to suggest it, but what are the chances of adding a feature that allows you to either only see highlighted posts in the thread, or skip to the next highlighted post? I find it tedious to wade through the 90% theorycraft to get to the 2 actual posts in each thread (this is only intended for really large threads obviously, as I'm not too lazy to click through 3 pages to see if anyone noteworthy responded).
The idea is that you just read the strategy forum as usual, and then a highlighted post jumps out at you. The intention isn't that you go around fishing for the highlighted posts.
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Good to have a way to easily find useful information when reading a thread instead of having to go over every single thing.
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Great idea. I approve.
Hopefully this helps users sort through the shit and find the good posts more easily.
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I don't know why you guys are asking for casters to be highlighted. Like the OP said, "Some combination of tournament results, high-level play, and Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum activity will earn you Highlighted User status."
I'm pretty sure neither Day9 nor any other major caster have shown us high-level play and tournament results in months if not years.
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On February 17 2011 21:57 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 21:55 xtfftc wrote:
My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that? If we were to implement this at the moment, it wouldn't be useful in most threads due to the small number of users on the highlight list. This is something we will consider once the list has grown more.
True, but this is also one of the reasons why there aren't that many highlighted posts in the first place. I imagine that the top players don't have a lot of time to spare for the forum but if they could filter the meaningful posts quickly, they might get more active.
What if the feature is configured to jump to the next post in any thread on the strategy forums? This way it would return more content and not just a handful of posts.
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Thanks for this new feature, unfortunately I don't agree with the fact the Idra is highlighted.
I can't wait to see his "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" posts being highlighted.
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I like it, but I would also love to see this in every SC2 forum.
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:O ruh roh, now we know who's a good player and who's just blowing smoke. Nice, thanks for that, TL. First noticed it with Minigun. It might be better to have it slightly more obvious a color change, if possible.
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On February 18 2011 01:36 MangoTango wrote:
:O ruh roh, now we know who's a good player and who's just blowing smoke. Nice, thanks for that, TL. First noticed it with Minigun. It might be better to have it slightly more obvious a color change, if possible.
This project was literally delayed over a month solely because of colour selection. I'm dead serious.
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i hope this will get more high level players to post here
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On February 18 2011 01:39 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 01:36 MangoTango wrote:
:O ruh roh, now we know who's a good player and who's just blowing smoke. Nice, thanks for that, TL. First noticed it with Minigun. It might be better to have it slightly more obvious a color change, if possible. This project was literally delayed over a month solely because of colour selection. I'm dead serious.
If random opinions matter: I think it's perfect, aligns with the rest of the color scheme of tl. I don't have any problems with color vision though.
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Oh noes Plexa has abandoned me t.t
Time to be more active in strategy forum~!
On February 18 2011 01:39 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 01:36 MangoTango wrote:
:O ruh roh, now we know who's a good player and who's just blowing smoke. Nice, thanks for that, TL. First noticed it with Minigun. It might be better to have it slightly more obvious a color change, if possible. This project was literally delayed over a month solely because of colour selection. I'm dead serious.
Haha wow... and here I had assumed 3 months ago that that would be the color to win, simply because it shows up well even on dying monitors and is supercool in general.
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On February 18 2011 01:39 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 01:36 MangoTango wrote:
:O ruh roh, now we know who's a good player and who's just blowing smoke. Nice, thanks for that, TL. First noticed it with Minigun. It might be better to have it slightly more obvious a color change, if possible. This project was literally delayed over a month solely because of colour selection. I'm dead serious.
You know what, I can believe that. Doesn't mean I can't complain about it though
Then again, not my house, so I'll just shut up and deal with it. Good work though, serves its intended purpose.
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Excellent! Awesome idea, i love it.
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Great idea! Hopefully this will bring in more professional and high-level advice!
And for those saying this may lead to people ignoring/bm'ing non-highlighted users, that's obviously up to the individual poster, who can ignore people trying to help them at their own risk. For bm'ers that's what the mods are for
Keep up the good work!
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This is a great idea. Glad to see that you guys came up with something I believe is a pretty damn good solution to the mess that was looking through the threads in the strat forum.
PS. I like the color choice. Easy to spot without being distracting at all. Really funny to hear that it took a month to decide hahah
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I can;t wait to see IdrA's trolling posts all highlight now xDD
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On February 17 2011 21:57 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 21:55 xtfftc wrote:
My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that? If we were to implement this at the moment, it wouldn't be useful in most threads due to the small number of users on the highlight list. This is something we will consider once the list has grown more.
You mean like the low number of Blizzard community managers and the low number of posts they put on the forums? With the "jump to blue post" button is one of the best features on there?
A low number arguably makes the feature even more important so that you can easily sift through all of the posts for it.
Edit: Also, overall, good first selection of players! I completely agree with your selection criteria including some activity on the forum in the first place since those people are likely the first ones who will go back to posting on there a lot. Good job, TL!
Edit 2: I should note that I'm fine without a jump button; it's just that the logic behind the decision seems flawed. I've been browsing the Strategy forum a bit and am actually quite happy with how the highlighting integrates in.
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IdrA has a long history of positive contributions to TL strategy forums. It'd be impossible to leave him out.
On February 18 2011 02:12 Char711 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 21:57 Plexa wrote:On February 17 2011 21:55 xtfftc wrote:
My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that? If we were to implement this at the moment, it wouldn't be useful in most threads due to the small number of users on the highlight list. This is something we will consider once the list has grown more. You mean like the low number of Blizzard community managers and the low number of posts they put on the forums? With the "jump to blue post" button is one of the best features on there? A low number arguably makes the feature even more important so that you can easily sift through all of the posts for it. Edit: Also, overall, good first selection of players! I completely agree with your selection criteria including some activity on the forum in the first place since those people are likely the first ones who will go back to posting on there a lot. Good job, TL!
The point is that these posters are not the only good advice in the strategy forum, but rather advice that can be trusted upon to be reliable. The vast majority of users have good things to say too.
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I hope you at TL know how good this is. I've wanted something like this for ages.
People want their posts read, they just do. People who have little clue still post advice and being a newb it's pretty hard to discern what is correct advice and what isn't.
Thanks a lot TL.
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I will also like to have some kind of poll system for every post. In this way , one member with a very very good post, can have his post highlighted because the others voted that as a good post. Post that were really bad can be collapsed or something.
This system is useful for me when I want to check out some games from sc2casts because every series can be voted by viewers.
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On February 18 2011 01:39 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 01:36 MangoTango wrote:
:O ruh roh, now we know who's a good player and who's just blowing smoke. Nice, thanks for that, TL. First noticed it with Minigun. It might be better to have it slightly more obvious a color change, if possible. This project was literally delayed over a month solely because of colour selection. I'm dead serious.
LOL?
The color is really fine, now. It does highlight it, but does not blow it out of proportion.
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On February 18 2011 02:25 Jotoco wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 01:39 Chill wrote:On February 18 2011 01:36 MangoTango wrote:
:O ruh roh, now we know who's a good player and who's just blowing smoke. Nice, thanks for that, TL. First noticed it with Minigun. It might be better to have it slightly more obvious a color change, if possible. This project was literally delayed over a month solely because of colour selection. I'm dead serious. LOL? The color is really fine, now. It does highlight it, but does not blow it out of proportion.
Are you sure? I was kinda hoping for a color scheme based on My Little Pony. . . .
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So what's the difference between quality posters and highlighted users?
To me they both acknowledge a certain recognition, just one is more apparent than the other (and one's strictly for the Strat forum).
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Maybe adding a "Like" button would help.....
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On February 18 2011 02:30 Torte de Lini wrote:
So what's the difference between quality posters and highlighted users?
To me they both acknowledge a certain recognition, just one is more apparent than the other (and one's strictly for the Strat forum).
Quality Posters have gone above and beyond in doing something that has helped TL. No one gotten to be a Quality Poster by just posting a lot - they have always gone beyond simply posting. They have stars everywhere in the forum.
Highlighted Users are good at the game and post accurate advice. They are only highlighted in the strategy forum.
Seems completely different, I'm not sure where the hangup is on the distinction.
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I really like that, it can really help people to find the better answers quickly (although not all non-highlighted posts are bad advice) but I couldn't help but ask myself how exactly are new users (meaning future users) going to know what it means?Wouldn't an additional icon/something make it more obvious/recognizable?
P.S. I'm sorry if it has already been asked but I do not have time to review the whole thread right now.
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On February 18 2011 02:45 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 02:30 Torte de Lini wrote:
So what's the difference between quality posters and highlighted users?
To me they both acknowledge a certain recognition, just one is more apparent than the other (and one's strictly for the Strat forum). Quality Posters have gone above and beyond in doing something that has helped TL. No one gotten to be a Quality Poster by just posting a lot - they have always gone beyond simply posting. They have stars everywhere in the forum. Highlighted Users are good at the same and post accurate advice. They are only highlighted in the strategy forum. Seems completely different, I'm not sure where the hangup is on the distinction.
The hang-up was merely an understanding on my part: "To me they both acknowledge a certain recognition, just one is more apparent than the other (and one's strictly for the Strat forum)."
Thanks for the clarification.
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Sweet! Can we also have a "Jump to next Highlighted Post" button?
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I really approve of this. Thanks a lot.
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Great stuff thanks. I already had my own messy way of doing this by bookmarking certain players profiles so I could just jump straight to their posts in big threads rather than trawling through all the shit.
One question though, why only the strategy section? A lot of the biggest discussions on SC2, balance, patches etc happen in the SC2 general section. It'd be just as useful to have highlighted posts there too.
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I really like this idea, it will defo help in browsing through the big 10+ pages of strategy bickering that seems to go on in some threads and the fact that they are not just handing it out to anyone :p
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Just by doing this,
You increase post quality.
This could do wonders. ^,^
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I feel discriminated. I want my stupidity tag.
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On February 18 2011 01:15 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 00:53 JamesSwift wrote:
Awesome addition.
This may not be the place to suggest it, but what are the chances of adding a feature that allows you to either only see highlighted posts in the thread, or skip to the next highlighted post? I find it tedious to wade through the 90% theorycraft to get to the 2 actual posts in each thread (this is only intended for really large threads obviously, as I'm not too lazy to click through 3 pages to see if anyone noteworthy responded). The idea is that you just read the strategy forum as usual, and then a highlighted post jumps out at you. The intention isn't that you go around fishing for the highlighted posts.
Like I said before, I don't see why this wouldn't be helpful as well.
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Finally, a reason to go back to the strategy forums. Just scroll through posts till highlighted, ez.
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I think this an excellent solution to the problem where intelligent and good posters have their responses lost in the mountain of posts. Just as a suggestion for something to add, I would say to have a possible link like on the bnet forums that allows you to just to the next blue post.
Overall, I think this is a really good change and thank you for implementing it.
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I like this a lot! As a relatively new user of TL, (Been lurking for about a year, signed up just before release.) I have found it discouraging to read the Strategy Forum simply because it was hard to sift through all the bullshit.
It also really reminds me of the "blue posts" on the Battle.net forums, which have been a major source of information over the years.
It's nice to get information you can rely on. Blue posts and to a lesser extent MVP posts, were pretty much the only thing I used to pay attention to on the B.net Forums. Although now that I've found TL (and barely play WoW anymore) I find little point in sticking my head into the shitstorm that is known as the Battle.net forums.
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Looks like a pretty elegant solution. I doubt it will resolve many problems, but it's a step in the right direction. I definitely had trusted sources memorized, but I didn't recognize everyone on that list, so I now have more people to look out for, with highlighting to boot! Also, the Strategy banning should make a big diference.
I would also like a "jump to highlighted poster" similar to how Blues work on B.net. But that would mostly be a convenience thing, not pressing at all. Thanks for the work involved!
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ok but you forgot an icon to jump to next highlisted post in thread (à la jump to blue post in blizzard forums)
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I think this is a great idea. It'll definitely help in finding useful information much faster.
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I think people are getting too hung up with highlighted posts. They're not meant to be magnets. People shouldn't be scouring the forum searching for highlighted posts. They're just posts that demand attention if you happen to come across them in the normal process of reading the forum.
People want all these features for skipping the entire thread and jumping to highlighted posts, but that's seriously not the intent we had with highlighting users.
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I like the idea, thanks. There needed to be some way to establish that what you're saying has legitimate knowledge behind it, which unfortunately is spotty when it goes on a name-recognition basis.
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On February 17 2011 23:05 Antisocialmunky wrote:I think putting a little icon by a thread containing a blue post and direct linking the post below the title will show there is a useful response in it. I mean, you can look at this system as either a way of making sure people know who to weigh more highly in a discussion so those people will post OR you can look at this system as a sort of Quality Control on the strategy forum because blue posts won't appear in threads that don't have enough useful discussion. I'm not implying there is an XOR relationship but rather the opposite here. In my view, this system is to encourage skilled players to post and act as some form of Quality Control on threads. My claim is that if you mark the list of threads in such a way that blues are visible when casually browsing, you'll draw attention to useful thought out advice. EDIT: You should also add people who are respected amateur and semi-pro players rather than just pros as you have it now. People on this list would include people like: They post more often and offer sane advice because they know the game well enough to be aware of the fact that they have limits to their knowledge.
I rarely post in strat forum, but might start doing so now
There are people who are better posters but weaker players on the list than myself, so I wouldn't say they're mostly focusing on pro players. Good balance.
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I'm pleasantly surprised by this. Glad to be part of the group and this will motivate me to post more advice in the strategy forum in the future, as well as more liquidpedia articles (which I have been doing a lot more of recently, check out protoss openings vs terran).
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oh god steven bonnell isnt on there prepare for a shitstorm
i personally think you need golden starred backgrounds of posts that would be better and more recognizable
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Finally implemented. I really like the idea and definitely think it is in the right direction. Anything that improve the strategy forum from what it currently is now in any small or large way is a plus in my book. Hopefully in the future, you guys can figure out a good system to help sieve through the informative post from the rest.
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gj guys, this should help things a bit.
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Thanks guys! This will be so helpful (despite what incontrol says)! :D:D
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Excellent idea and elegant solution. Great job!
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I can tell a lot of thought went in to this. Thanks guys.
Hopefully it works as intended.
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I was sad to see the strat forum devolve into the state that it was. I always regarded TL's strat forum as one of the better ones, and I'm glad a good effort is being put into returning it to a higher standard
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Maybe this will make delving into the strategy forums a little bit more palatable.
Nice going.
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Very excited to (hopefully) see some more pro player involvement in the strategy forum.
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On February 18 2011 03:48 Chill wrote:
I think people are getting too hung up with highlighted posts. They're not meant to be magnets. People shouldn't be scouring the forum searching for highlighted posts. They're just posts that demand attention if you happen to come across them in the normal process of reading the forum.
People want all these features for skipping the entire thread and jumping to highlighted posts, but that's seriously not the intent we had with highlighting users.
Yes that's essentially saying that no one elses posts in the strat forum are worth reading - which is just not true. I dread the day when someone opens a thread saying "only highlighted posters plz". When someone does that I will ban them.
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On February 18 2011 03:20 Antisocialmunky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 01:15 Chill wrote:On February 18 2011 00:53 JamesSwift wrote:
Awesome addition.
This may not be the place to suggest it, but what are the chances of adding a feature that allows you to either only see highlighted posts in the thread, or skip to the next highlighted post? I find it tedious to wade through the 90% theorycraft to get to the 2 actual posts in each thread (this is only intended for really large threads obviously, as I'm not too lazy to click through 3 pages to see if anyone noteworthy responded). The idea is that you just read the strategy forum as usual, and then a highlighted post jumps out at you. The intention isn't that you go around fishing for the highlighted posts. Like I said before, I don't see why this wouldn't be helpful as well.
Because that would tend to alienate non-highlighted posts, which is definitely something we don't want. There are plenty of intelligent and insightful posts by non-highlighted users. If we have features like that, it would be a huge "screw you" to the people who put plenty of effort into their posts but might get less feedback because their posts are being skipped over. Especially in short threads, where you should be reading the entire thread anyways. The point is to see the progression of discussion of a particular thread, and having a highlighted poster post should only contribute to the discussion, not be definitive be-all and end-all.
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Interresting development.
Is there a way to get highlighted status through other people suggesting you? Like in a poll? Or is it mainly through selection of mods and admins?
Either way, this will be good to experiment with for the TL staff. I hope it works as intended and that more posters will visit the strategy forum since its definitely my favourite forum on here.
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On February 18 2011 00:30 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 00:20 BattRoll wrote:On February 17 2011 23:56 zatic wrote:On February 17 2011 23:45 BattRoll wrote:
This is a terrible idea, elitist attitude. I occasionally post advice in strategy and each strategy post is filled with feedback from different mindsets/users and there's probably thousands of people out there with valid strategy points. Are you going to add them all? By the size and scope of this list, it looks like you're just making a list of well known players and stroking their egos. No we are only going to add top players. Can you expand on why this is a terrible idea? We are not adding them to stroke their ego but to make it easier for the reader to find meaningful advice. I have no problem with you tagging people - but why not do it in a more constructive way? Why not link team liquid profiles to the sc2ranks database and show their ladder ranking? And let users search for posts based on this? That way if somebody wants to read master league strategy, they can filter this way. I am certain there are plenty of occasional posters that are highly ranked competitive players - that would not be included on this elitist list and have their opinions discredited by the fact that they aren't on "the list" We have discussed this, but for one it's technically not feasible, and also we want to avoid that people think they know what they are talking about because they are high diamond. Or that they think their opinion is more worth than someone's a league lower. If you can name highly ranked players that post in the forum and are not in the list please nominate them in the thread in the Website forum. The list in the OP is meant to grow over time.
I was thinking about this earlier and another solution that (I think) would be better than trying to upkeep some elite player list would just be to simply have a thumbs up/rating system for responses like youtube or yahoo answers. I think that this would probably give more incentive for people to respond to threads in general, as well as let peers review the content. I guess this wouldn't interfere with your current plan to highlight elite users but it could be used to determine who those elite users are based on quality contributions instead of just being a biased popularity contest. I think that given the heavy moderation of this forum, this system would actually work very well.
Anyway, I'm sure you have considered this option and I'm wondering why you chose not to implement it? Or if you are planning on doing it.
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Awesome solution. Good work guys.
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On February 18 2011 05:02 Chaosvuistje wrote:Interresting development. Is there a way to get highlighted status through other people suggesting you? Like in a poll? Or is it mainly through selection of mods and admins? Either way, this will be good to experiment with for the TL staff. I hope it works as intended and that more posters will visit the strategy forum since its definitely my favourite forum on here.
If you read the entire OP, there's a link to a nomination thread where people can nominate others for highlighted status. I'm guessing the mods will regularly check it and see whether the nominations are warranted or not.
Either way, I like this idea. Previously, I'd more or less skim threads but pay more attention to posters who I know give damn good advice. Now it just makes it easier x]
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On February 18 2011 05:02 Chaosvuistje wrote:Interresting development. Is there a way to get highlighted status through other people suggesting you? Like in a poll? Or is it mainly through selection of mods and admins? Either way, this will be good to experiment with for the TL staff. I hope it works as intended and that more posters will visit the strategy forum since its definitely my favourite forum on here.
Staff will have the final decision over who gets highlighted. You can nominate anyone, of course, to make sure the staff knows about them and keeps an eye out for them.
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On February 18 2011 05:06 BattRoll wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 00:30 zatic wrote:On February 18 2011 00:20 BattRoll wrote:On February 17 2011 23:56 zatic wrote:On February 17 2011 23:45 BattRoll wrote:
This is a terrible idea, elitist attitude. I occasionally post advice in strategy and each strategy post is filled with feedback from different mindsets/users and there's probably thousands of people out there with valid strategy points. Are you going to add them all? By the size and scope of this list, it looks like you're just making a list of well known players and stroking their egos. No we are only going to add top players. Can you expand on why this is a terrible idea? We are not adding them to stroke their ego but to make it easier for the reader to find meaningful advice. I have no problem with you tagging people - but why not do it in a more constructive way? Why not link team liquid profiles to the sc2ranks database and show their ladder ranking? And let users search for posts based on this? That way if somebody wants to read master league strategy, they can filter this way. I am certain there are plenty of occasional posters that are highly ranked competitive players - that would not be included on this elitist list and have their opinions discredited by the fact that they aren't on "the list" We have discussed this, but for one it's technically not feasible, and also we want to avoid that people think they know what they are talking about because they are high diamond. Or that they think their opinion is more worth than someone's a league lower. If you can name highly ranked players that post in the forum and are not in the list please nominate them in the thread in the Website forum. The list in the OP is meant to grow over time. I was thinking about this earlier and another solution that (I think) would be better than trying to upkeep some elite player list would just be to simply have a thumbs up/rating system for responses like youtube or yahoo answers. I think that this would probably give more incentive for people to respond to threads in general, as well as let peers review the content. I guess this wouldn't interfere with your current plan to highlight elite users but it could be used to determine who those elite users are based on quality contributions instead of just being a biased popularity contest. I think that given the heavy moderation of this forum, this system would actually work very well. Anyway, I'm sure you have considered this option and I'm wondering why you chose not to implement it? Or if you are planning on doing it.
I'm member of a forum where they have this system, and it's not useful at all.
Of course it completely depends on the maturity of the community, but in this particular forum, this system ended up inciting the creation of little groups of users who thumbs up themselves, no matter what kind of content they posted, and thumbs down their haters (or people who do not agree with them) just for the sake of doing them bad.
The highlighting system gives more power to the administrators, since they can analyze the posts of nominated users and decide themselves if they are worth of being highlighted or not.
//tx
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Idra! it's kind of funny to see him on that list but i'm ok with it !
I wonder if we were to do something like this with LR threads? like ZONA for instance... that would make sense :m
ThankS TL! Always glad to see new things, as long as they aren't too new.
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On February 18 2011 05:06 BattRoll wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 00:30 zatic wrote:On February 18 2011 00:20 BattRoll wrote:On February 17 2011 23:56 zatic wrote:On February 17 2011 23:45 BattRoll wrote:
This is a terrible idea, elitist attitude. I occasionally post advice in strategy and each strategy post is filled with feedback from different mindsets/users and there's probably thousands of people out there with valid strategy points. Are you going to add them all? By the size and scope of this list, it looks like you're just making a list of well known players and stroking their egos. No we are only going to add top players. Can you expand on why this is a terrible idea? We are not adding them to stroke their ego but to make it easier for the reader to find meaningful advice. I have no problem with you tagging people - but why not do it in a more constructive way? Why not link team liquid profiles to the sc2ranks database and show their ladder ranking? And let users search for posts based on this? That way if somebody wants to read master league strategy, they can filter this way. I am certain there are plenty of occasional posters that are highly ranked competitive players - that would not be included on this elitist list and have their opinions discredited by the fact that they aren't on "the list" We have discussed this, but for one it's technically not feasible, and also we want to avoid that people think they know what they are talking about because they are high diamond. Or that they think their opinion is more worth than someone's a league lower. If you can name highly ranked players that post in the forum and are not in the list please nominate them in the thread in the Website forum. The list in the OP is meant to grow over time. I was thinking about this earlier and another solution that (I think) would be better than trying to upkeep some elite player list would just be to simply have a thumbs up/rating system for responses like youtube or yahoo answers. I think that this would probably give more incentive for people to respond to threads in general, as well as let peers review the content. I guess this wouldn't interfere with your current plan to highlight elite users but it could be used to determine who those elite users are based on quality contributions instead of just being a biased popularity contest. I think that given the heavy moderation of this forum, this system would actually work very well. Anyway, I'm sure you have considered this option and I'm wondering why you chose not to implement it? Or if you are planning on doing it.
This would get really messy really quickly, and probably wouldn't lead to the most accurate answers being picked, but rather the answers that appealed to the most people. For example, it could be popular consensus that doing X is the correct response to Y, whereas there could be much better responses that would just tend to get glossed over because the opinions wouldn't be "mainstream."
Also, the system is really open for abuse and difficult to moderate. What happens when people start spamming the "thumbs up" button for a stupidly "entertaining" post? Or posts that contribute nothing to the thread? Basically, letting the masses decide posts they "like" is often times counterproductive when what we want are to highlight posts that are useful.
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I think this is a great idea. Often times really good advice (many from the users listed) gets straight-up ignored and is lost in like 20+ pages of "lolololimba." I don't see the reason for all the hate on Idra really, he's made many great helpful posts...some from when he played BW come to mind.
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On February 18 2011 05:18 Tschis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 05:06 BattRoll wrote:On February 18 2011 00:30 zatic wrote:On February 18 2011 00:20 BattRoll wrote:On February 17 2011 23:56 zatic wrote:On February 17 2011 23:45 BattRoll wrote:
This is a terrible idea, elitist attitude. I occasionally post advice in strategy and each strategy post is filled with feedback from different mindsets/users and there's probably thousands of people out there with valid strategy points. Are you going to add them all? By the size and scope of this list, it looks like you're just making a list of well known players and stroking their egos. No we are only going to add top players. Can you expand on why this is a terrible idea? We are not adding them to stroke their ego but to make it easier for the reader to find meaningful advice. I have no problem with you tagging people - but why not do it in a more constructive way? Why not link team liquid profiles to the sc2ranks database and show their ladder ranking? And let users search for posts based on this? That way if somebody wants to read master league strategy, they can filter this way. I am certain there are plenty of occasional posters that are highly ranked competitive players - that would not be included on this elitist list and have their opinions discredited by the fact that they aren't on "the list" We have discussed this, but for one it's technically not feasible, and also we want to avoid that people think they know what they are talking about because they are high diamond. Or that they think their opinion is more worth than someone's a league lower. If you can name highly ranked players that post in the forum and are not in the list please nominate them in the thread in the Website forum. The list in the OP is meant to grow over time. I was thinking about this earlier and another solution that (I think) would be better than trying to upkeep some elite player list would just be to simply have a thumbs up/rating system for responses like youtube or yahoo answers. I think that this would probably give more incentive for people to respond to threads in general, as well as let peers review the content. I guess this wouldn't interfere with your current plan to highlight elite users but it could be used to determine who those elite users are based on quality contributions instead of just being a biased popularity contest. I think that given the heavy moderation of this forum, this system would actually work very well. Anyway, I'm sure you have considered this option and I'm wondering why you chose not to implement it? Or if you are planning on doing it. I'm member of a forum where they have this system, and it's not useful at all. Of course it completely depends on the maturity of the community, but in this particular forum, this system ended up inciting the creation of little groups of users who thumbs up themselves, no matter what kind of content they posted, and thumbs down their haters (or people who do not agree with them) just for the sake of doing them bad. The highlighting system gives more power to the administrators, since they can analyze the posts of nominated users and decide themselves if they are worth of being highlighted or not. //tx
This is exactly why we haven't gone to the thumbs/up down system - it leads to politics and loses usefulness quickly.
It's also why we haven't added the ability to highlight an individual post - it leads to people clamoring "Why the fuck isn't this highlighted?" and "Highlight NOW!" etc. If there's a longterm process, it avoids all these derailing political issues.
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Nice, I like it. I do agree with the keeping the "normal" posters in there as well, you can learn from anything, but some of those threads, ugh. Welcome addition in my book!
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On February 18 2011 03:48 Chill wrote:
I think people are getting too hung up with highlighted posts. They're not meant to be magnets. People shouldn't be scouring the forum searching for highlighted posts. They're just posts that demand attention if you happen to come across them in the normal process of reading the forum.
People want all these features for skipping the entire thread and jumping to highlighted posts, but that's seriously not the intent we had with highlighting users.
I agree that people shouldn't be scrolling through threads for highlighted posts, but that is probably exactly what they will do
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this is great! Been visiting the strategy forum way back but due to what it has evovled into it just was a pain. This will hopefully change now.
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Is there a way to revise the highlight color that was chosen? It gives me a headache reading the text written inside that highlight.
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On February 18 2011 03:48 Chill wrote:
I think people are getting too hung up with highlighted posts. They're not meant to be magnets. People shouldn't be scouring the forum searching for highlighted posts. They're just posts that demand attention if you happen to come across them in the normal process of reading the forum.
People want all these features for skipping the entire thread and jumping to highlighted posts, but that's seriously not the intent we had with highlighting users.
I agree that people shouldn't be scrolling through threads for highlighted posts, but that is probably exactly what they will do
The very first thing I did when I saw this functionality added was go to the strategy forum and try to search for highlighted posts. I was disappointed when I realized I had to actually search through the threads. I guess i'm just a spoiled brat like so many other people these days, where I whine if I don't get what I want.
I see many other people complaining about not being able to search for highlighted posts and getting warned/banned for it..
I also see this turning into something similar to the WoW forums, where someone comes up with the equivalent of a blue tracker and people just look at that instead of the actual forums.
If i manually go through all the threads in the strategy forum, and collect all the highlighted posts and make a new topic so they are all in one place, will i get banned?
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Is this just for the sc2 strategy forum or for BW as well? Because people like Fyre_Dragon definitely deserve to have their BW strategy posts highlighted
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On February 18 2011 06:29 Gwaltgw wrote:Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 03:48 Chill wrote:
I think people are getting too hung up with highlighted posts. They're not meant to be magnets. People shouldn't be scouring the forum searching for highlighted posts. They're just posts that demand attention if you happen to come across them in the normal process of reading the forum.
People want all these features for skipping the entire thread and jumping to highlighted posts, but that's seriously not the intent we had with highlighting users.
I agree that people shouldn't be scrolling through threads for highlighted posts, but that is probably exactly what they will do The very first thing I did when I saw this functionality added was go to the strategy forum and try to search for highlighted posts. I was disappointed when I realized I had to actually search through the threads. I guess i'm just a spoiled brat like so many other people these days, where I whine if I don't get what I want. I see many other people complaining about not being able to search for highlighted posts and getting warned/banned for it.. I also see this turning into something similar to the WoW forums, where someone comes up with the equivalent of a blue tracker and people just look at that instead of the actual forums. If i manually go through all the threads in the strategy forum, and collect all the highlighted posts and make a new topic so they are all in one place, will i get banned?
Why would you possibly be banned for that? Of course you wouldn't. I think it's dumb and I'd advise you not to, but you can do it if you want.
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On February 18 2011 06:31 xxpack09 wrote:
Is this just for the sc2 strategy forum or for BW as well? Because people like Fyre_Dragon definitely deserve to have their BW strategy posts highlighted
This is only for the Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum.
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On February 18 2011 06:27 sc2lime wrote:
Is there a way to revise the highlight color that was chosen? It gives me a headache reading the text written inside that highlight.
Currently, no. Maybe it will be added in the future, we'd need R1CH to answer that.
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I thought that something is wrong with my eyes when i see blue coloured posts lol
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kcdc should be highlighted.
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On February 18 2011 06:52 wentzA wrote:
kcdc should be highlighted.
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It would be kinda cool to have the thread maybe stand out more as well from the forum index. I'm not sure what this requires or if even feasible, but a neat idea IMO .
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I like this quite a bit. It's been frustrating to read the strategy forum because of so much spam posting by people who have no idea what they're talking about. This is a nice subtle way to highlight the good posters efforts. Thanks TL.
Edit: Did you guys consider doing an upvote system?
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On February 18 2011 03:48 Chill wrote:
I think people are getting too hung up with highlighted posts. They're not meant to be magnets. People shouldn't be scouring the forum searching for highlighted posts. They're just posts that demand attention if you happen to come across them in the normal process of reading the forum.
People want all these features for skipping the entire thread and jumping to highlighted posts, but that's seriously not the intent we had with highlighting users.
First of all, I love the idea, but I too think it's only a start.
I agree with the sentiment behind this, but given how many pages some of the threads are, it seems daunting to me to read through the whole thread (or even a large portion of it). Sometimes I only really have the time/energy to read 1-2 responses to the OP, so it would be quite helpful if I could skip through to ones from a respected/known player. Maybe that makes me lazy? Regardless, I'm just trying to be realistic - not sure if others have a similar experience.
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On February 18 2011 06:54 Plexa wrote:...
Well Plexa back to the drawing board, the highlighting color is clearly too difficult to read. Any votes for white?
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thanks for picking me hope i can bring good quality to the sc2 strategy section!
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Has anyone considered adding some sort of eye-grabber in the forum index as well? Maybe not even based on user submission, but perhaps custom updated by moderators?
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On February 18 2011 07:20 CecilSunkure wrote:
Has anyone considered adding some sort of eye-grabber in the forum index as well? Maybe not even based on user submission, but perhaps custom updated by moderators?
I'd settle for just having the best threads (e.g., iEchoic's TvT) stickied. Also, showing which threads have highlighted posts might be nice because then you'll know that there is some real discussion going on in there. With those I'd say you then wouldn't need the "jump to highlighted post" button and stuff. It also helps to keep it more inclusive like you guys are saying (which, by the way, I like the idea of; good job thinking of that!).
Thanks for sticking it out here and addressing all of our questions/complaints/flaming/etc.! :D
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i'm loving the new change, i do wish it could be a darker color but thats just personal preference. Reading the strat forum now is quite a joy, just looking for the gem posts. Would love the possible future feature of showing only gem posts. Thanks TL!
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nice job, but you could make the color a bit stronger - that light blue is too pale, well at least for me
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On February 18 2011 07:20 CecilSunkure wrote:
Has anyone considered adding some sort of eye-grabber in the forum index as well? Maybe not even based on user submission, but perhaps custom updated by moderators?
We have plans to have a stickied Recommended Threads summarizing the best threads. I have the list unread in my inbox. I've just been busy and haven't read it.
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We need a system to select only post that are worth to read. I don't like to read every post till the page 39 or something.
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The idea is seriously an insanely good one. Hats off to whoever thought of it.
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Is it just me or is everyone in the strategy section making a ton of effort in every post now? Hope it lasts.
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Is this coming to the BW strategy section anytime soon? Though not nearly as cluttered, it would be an interesting feature nonetheless
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Hmm, I really like the potential this has to create context. However, some sort of indexing would be the next important/logical step to me. The first thing that comes to my mind short of some sort of redditish/Highlighted-User-voluntary-mass-voted-topic-responder-option/capacity/thing (sorry I'm tired atm), would be some sort of strategy forum Merit-ELO system... (again, I am tired.)
Finding context anywhere nowadays is always an issue with any type of information in my opinion, and watching a system being created for this type of thing here on TL is pretty niffty.
Also gratz to Minigun, he deserves it. He really goes out of his way to contribute relevant information/arguments when he has the time, and they have always been very helpful when I've come across them as I play protoss in masters. ^^
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Oh wow that's a nice improvement. Congrats to all the highlighted users, I'll be reading your posts!
On February 18 2011 09:38 Infested_Noodle wrote:
Is this coming to the BW strategy section anytime soon? Though not nearly as cluttered, it would be an interesting feature nonetheless
Yeah I would love this as well.
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Great initiative - glad to see it
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On February 18 2011 08:08 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 07:20 CecilSunkure wrote:
Has anyone considered adding some sort of eye-grabber in the forum index as well? Maybe not even based on user submission, but perhaps custom updated by moderators? We have plans to have a stickied Recommended Threads summarizing the best threads. I have the list unread in my inbox. I've just been busy and haven't read it.
Ah, perfect! I can't wait!
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This is so cool. Especially glad to see someone like Kcdc on it. He might not be some big name super-player (as far as I know, anyway) but he's certainly one of the best contributors. Though on that same note, I wouldn't mind seeing that iechoic guy on that list.
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On February 17 2011 22:00 mrdx wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 21:57 Plexa wrote:On February 17 2011 21:55 xtfftc wrote:
My main problem with the strategy forum at the moment is scrolling through lots and lots of pages in search for a familiar post. Would it be possible to add a toggle-able feature that hides other posts apart from those by highlighted users? Or a "jump to next highlighted" button or something like that? If we were to implement this at the moment, it wouldn't be useful in most threads due to the small number of users on the highlight list. This is something we will consider once the list has grown more. How about an "Ignore this user's posts from now on" link?
If you think somebody's posting in the start forum is a problem, report 'em and we can ban them from the strat forum.
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I think that mr bitter should be on here, ive seen some usefull stuff from him on the strategy forums
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excellent, excellent, excellent.
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Kennigit's foretelling came true.
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I was wondering what the different colored posts meant. Know now, hopefully I'll be joining that list soon!
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Hey great news, just wanted to know if you could add Mr. Bitter he seems to bring alot of knowledge and great service to the community. either way i really appreciate this so now maybe peoples problems will be solved sooner ^_^
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this is awesome, no more scanning each individual post with a reputable name on top.
maybe now we can have less 30 page threads with no useful information/debate
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On February 18 2011 08:49 hifriend wrote:
Is it just me or is everyone in the strategy section making a ton of effort in every post now? Hope it lasts.
Good to see that my eyes did not deceive me , I thought the same.
Seems like the old trick with dangling a carrot in front of ones face still makes them go in straight line to where you want.
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Useful advice that is easily identifiable, fuck yeah!
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Awesome idea, now we can see who actually is good
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Excellent idea, should make finding worthwhile posts all the easier. I still think theres more which can be done, but definitely a step in the right direction.
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You coul add some option that could be changed in the profile page, where we can choose the colour of the highlighted posts.
Ofc you could make us choose between 3 or something, but at least that would give the users some kind of choice.
//tx
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Oh, this is good stuff
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How about an icon to the thread, so you can identify discussions where those "trusted" users contributed? Very similiar to the battle.net forums where you can see on the spot in which thread a blizz employee has posted.
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I looked forward to this change for a long time. I feel its the right decision.
I was a bit suprised that iEchoic isnt on the list. But I trust you as allways to keep on doing the right decisions.
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On February 18 2011 21:05 Argoth. wrote:
How about an icon to the thread, so you can identify discussions where those "trusted" users contributed? Very similiar to the battle.net forums where you can see on the spot in which thread a blizz employee has posted.
Been discussed many times.
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It's a step in the right direction, but you still get some hilarious threads where Gold league ballers try to tell minigun his strats are bad.
Actually, this is better. I like hilarious threads.
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I guess the advantages of this outweigh the disadvantages, but that is about all I can say.
So highlighted users are more likely to know what they are talking about, and this generality is pointed out to others. Does not make me want to post more. Lets see if any top players start posting/more eh.
The op mentions not alienating new members and strong players being ignored or attacked. Well I'll show you an instance of this. Take this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192658¤tpage=7
Markwerf points out that 2gate production is preferred and more efficient. CecilSunkre says no, and types "People like you posting make me hate this entire forum." Unfortunately, Merkwerf responds with some hate, and is temp banned. Lastly, CecilSunkre gives up addressing the point directly and ends "you're just flaming me and being a troll without actually contributing anything to it." Guess who was more correct on this point of strategy? Merkwerf. Guess who the highlighted user is? Cecilsunkre. Surely anyone can see how responding to hate, yet also being more right on the point, then being banned seems not quite justice and is alienating from the community.
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On February 19 2011 06:28 Knickknack wrote:I guess the advantages of this outweigh the disadvantages, but that is about all I can say. So highlighted users are more likely to know what they are talking about, and this generality is pointed out to others. Does not make me want to post more. Lets see if any top players start posting/more eh. The op mentions not alienating new members and strong players being ignored or attacked. Well I'll show you an instance of this. Take this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192658¤tpage=7Markwerf points out that 2gate production is preferred and more efficient. CecilSunkre says no, and types "People like you posting make me hate this entire forum." Unfortunately, Merkwerf responds with some hate, and is temp banned. Lastly, CecilSunkre gives up addressing the point directly and ends "you're just flaming me and being a troll without actually contributing anything to it." Guess who was more correct on this point of strategy? Merkwerf. Guess who the highlighted user is? Cecilsunkre. Surely anyone can see how responding to hate, yet also being more right on the point, then being banned seems not quite justice and is alienating from the community.
That actually happened before the highlighting happened, so him on I were both non-highlighted. Also, I kept telling that dude to provide some evidence to his claims like I was, and he just flamed me. If you want to also claim he was more right, you'd need evidence just like Markwerf did.
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On February 19 2011 06:28 Knickknack wrote:I guess the advantages of this outweigh the disadvantages, but that is about all I can say. So highlighted users are more likely to know what they are talking about, and this generality is pointed out to others. Does not make me want to post more. Lets see if any top players start posting/more eh. The op mentions not alienating new members and strong players being ignored or attacked. Well I'll show you an instance of this. Take this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192658¤tpage=7Markwerf points out that 2gate production is preferred and more efficient. CecilSunkre says no, and types "People like you posting make me hate this entire forum." Unfortunately, Merkwerf responds with some hate, and is temp banned. Lastly, CecilSunkre gives up addressing the point directly and ends "you're just flaming me and being a troll without actually contributing anything to it." Guess who was more correct on this point of strategy? Merkwerf. Guess who the highlighted user is? Cecilsunkre. Surely anyone can see how responding to hate, yet also being more right on the point, then being banned seems not quite justice and is alienating from the community.
Markwerf was trolling, and he does that in a lot of threads. This highlighting system lets people know that he is not worth listening to, and that thread doesn't really show any indication that this is an untrue statement. I dunno about you, but I'd rather read strategy posts from people who are good at the game.
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Best news since sliced bread. Seems like a good compromise between elitism and noobhugging. I hope this will fix alot of the frustration felt about the strategy forum. GG WP.
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This is an awesome idea, but please keep this list VERY exclusive...
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Well done! I'm glad this has been implemented. It makes sifting through really long, opinionated threads much more bearable. Props to all the TL who put in the hard work for this.
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I didnt read the whole thread but i think its bad to have highlighted users because it simply kills a lot of discussion due to the fact that nobody wants to look stupid and make a "bad" post after some highlighted guy expressed his opinion and it doesnt really matter if the highlighted guy is wrong or just doesnt know a build that can deal with the problem.
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On February 17 2011 21:32 Chill wrote:<font size='3'><b><center>Strategy Forum Changes - Highlighted Users</b></center></font> TL has been aware of the issues with the Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum. Users' frustrations can easily be found with a simple search http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=strategy forumThe goal of the TL Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum has always been to elevate the level of discussion without alienating newer or weaker members. Strong players feel helpless when posting advice because their advice is easily ignored or immediately attacked, while creating a pros-only forum has the possibility of becoming an inactive waste. To maintain the level of activity in the Strategy Forum, while placing emphasis on the opinions of strong players, TL has created Highlighted Users: Click to enlarge! Whenever a Highlighted Poster makes any post in the Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum, it becomes highlighted. A Highlighted Poster is a poster who can be counted upon to provide accurate comments. Highlighted Posters are those who show the highest level of understanding of the game. Highlighted Posters will not always be right, and highlighting should not be seen as a substitute of lively debate in the strategy forum. But we believe that posters who contribute to the strategy forum should be rewarded and given the respect that their diligence deserves! The criteria for becoming a Highlighted User is quite subjective. Some combination of tournament results, high-level play, and Starcraft 2 Strategy Forum activity will earn you Highlighted User status. Requesting status will never be approved. Below are the list of pre-approved Highlighted Users. Current List of Highlighted Users:+ Show Spoiler +Anihc
Antimage
Artosis
Catz.root
CecilSunkure
DarKFoRcE
drewbie.root
IdrA
iNcontroL
kcdc
LaLuSh
Liquid`Tyler
Liquid`Ret
Liquid`Haypro
Liquid`HuK
Liquid`TLO
Liquid`Jinro
merz
Minigun
MorroW
qxc
RyanRushia
Saracen
Sheth
sleepingdog
whiplash
Zelniq
Zerg~Legend This list is by no means final. We will continually be adding users as we see them posting in the strategy forum. Obviously a lot of top level players are missing from this list, and there is very good reason for that. Up until now top level players have tended to avoid the strategy forum and refrained from posting in it. Without any prior posts in the strategy forum it is impossible for us to assess whether the information the top level player is providing is helpful or not. If top level players choose to participate in the strategy forum and contribute good advice they will be added to the list. The same goes for anyone - people contributing consistent accurate top quality advice will always be added to the list. Also please keep in mind that just because you are on the list, doesn't mean you're going to stay there. If we notice that your advice and posts start to become unhelpful in the strategy forum your highlighting will be revoked, simple as that. We have also implemented strategy forum temp bans for users who are being unhelpful and annoying in the strategy forum. If you would like to nominate someone for post highlighting please use this thread. Congratulations to our foundation highlighted posters! And we look forward to welcoming many more over the years to come.
How do we search for highlighted posts?
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The wise speak only of what they know
-Gandalf
I think that highlighted posters should be held to a higher standard especially in regards to civility. You can tell someone they are wrong and explain why but no amount of being right justifies calling someone an idiot or similar misconduct. Behavior such as that does not contribute in any way to the discussion or the Starcraft community.
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On February 17 2011 21:50 Mr.Brightside wrote:
I think the people TL have specifically selected do not have a reputation for this kind of abuse of power. Chill stated that if you want to be a highlighted user then you can't demand it so I'm sure they will only select more suitable people that aren't going to deter others from posting. The forums are highly moderated so I think if someone abuses this power they will probably have it revoked.
Yeah. That's why IdrA is on that list.
On a more serious note: I really think this is a great idea that will help distinguishing useful posts from the lesser useful ones.
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Hah. I'm pretty happy about this. As a baddie, it's been tough having to lurk around here to figure out which users are worth listening to and which ones aren't. This will make it a lot easier... I'd only figured out it was worth listening to less than 1/4 of the people on that list.
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no offense but my level of strategy is as high or higher than any of those highlighted players. However my insightful posts on strategy will not be seen as amazing because it is a trend for most top players to have some sort of weird anti cheese moral around their builds, which limits their level of strategic understanding.
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On February 24 2011 20:05 stroggos wrote:
no offense but my level of strategy is as high or higher than any of those highlighted players. However my insightful posts on strategy will not be seen as amazing because it is a trend for most top players to have some sort of weird anti cheese moral around their builds, which limits their level of strategic understanding.
Well, no offense but you haven't made any worthwhile posts in the strategy forum bar your BoX guide. The only people who get highlighted with the kind of posts that you make are the ones who are famous or well known.
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ANy chance that in the future TLers will be able to toggle some setting so that ALL we can see is the quality posts?
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woops sorry delete this :\
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On February 26 2011 02:34 Zorkmid wrote:
ANy chance that in the future TLers will be able to toggle some setting so that ALL we can see is the quality posts?
was answered with a "maybe" on the first page
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On February 24 2011 20:05 stroggos wrote:
no offense but my level of strategy is as high or higher than any of those highlighted players. However my insightful posts on strategy will not be seen as amazing because it is a trend for most top players to have some sort of weird anti cheese moral around their builds, which limits their level of strategic understanding.
How is there any way not to find that offensive? "I post better in the strategy forum than everyone on that list". Really?
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Thank you Teamliquid staff, not that I'm not going to read an entire thread now when I'm looking for strategy, but now I have posts that I can pay additional attention to.
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I will be working my hardest to make this list.
Great idea.
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Was this modification with the highlighting post usefull for somebody? I still have some hard time to find the best strategy post when threads have more the 10 pages.
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Very nice implementation =D should make it much easier to sort through the massive amount of trolls.
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I just saw a post highlighted, and wondered wtf was wrong with my eyesight.
Awesome job!
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On February 25 2011 04:16 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 20:05 stroggos wrote:
no offense but my level of strategy is as high or higher than any of those highlighted players. However my insightful posts on strategy will not be seen as amazing because it is a trend for most top players to have some sort of weird anti cheese moral around their builds, which limits their level of strategic understanding. Well, no offense but you haven't made any worthwhile posts in the strategy forum bar your BoX guide. The only people who get highlighted with the kind of posts that you make are the ones who are famous or well known.
Am I tired or are u saying ppl who are just as "bad" as he is at posting gets on the list if they are "famous"?
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