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On February 04 2011 01:29 btlyger wrote:
More importantly why is Halo reach $100k? I don't want to start a flame war or anything about Halo, but as far as shooters go Halo Reach definitely wouldn't make my top 5. I'm glad for esports that there are 2 very different genres but... halo..... reach.... sigh.
Anyways, super excited about Starcraft 2, I think we may see more EU people in these tournaments because of the prize pool and hopefully a better and smoother experience compared to last years MLGs.
You shouldn't be so quick to hate on Halo because Halo is what made MLG what it is. Without halo's success, this tournament doesn't even exist.
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How is this in any way amazing?
5k for first place still ain't nothing huge, considering players will be flying from korea/europe on top of that. Factor in flight costs, hotels, etc.
Didn't they also recently secure like 8 million in additional funding for this year or something?
Also the finals for 50,000 and the others for 5,000 doesn't really make sense, would be better to even out each tournament.
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Very awesome, although I wish the prize pool of the first 5 events was more and the national championship was less. Either way, very awesome indeed.
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On February 04 2011 01:29 btlyger wrote:
More importantly why is Halo reach $100k? I don't want to start a flame war or anything about Halo, but as far as shooters go Halo Reach definitely wouldn't make my top 5. I'm glad for esports that there are 2 very different genres but... halo..... reach.... sigh.
Anyways, super excited about Starcraft 2, I think we may see more EU people in these tournaments because of the prize pool and hopefully a better and smoother experience compared to last years MLGs.
MLG has always been and most likely will be (for the forseeable future) centered around the Halo franchise.
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If only every title could be run in a single player format. It really makes raising the prizes for 4 person team games very difficult. I wish we could run FFAs for Halo, then everyone would be happy with the prize pool.
Anyways, I hope everyone in the SC2 community comes out to compete this season. To clarify a post earlier, NATIONALS IS NOT CLOSED TO TOP 8. Rank points will be used from the season to give extreme bracket benefits to those with the most points, but anyone will be able to compete at the end of the season.
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On February 04 2011 01:31 Frack wrote:
sc2 in NA/EU doesnt need korea to be successful
Wait, isn't the point of a tournament to attract the top players from the world? So, you're saying that you don't want MVP, oGsMC, Jinro, Idra, fruitdealer, IMNestea, MKP, etc participating in MLG? Why?
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Wow, great news, good to see the prizepool has increased this much. Really looking forward to watch this years MLGs.
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On February 04 2011 01:34 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 01:31 Frack wrote:
sc2 in NA/EU doesnt need korea to be successful Wait, isn't the point of a tournament to attract the top players from the world? So, you're saying that you don't want MVP, oGsMC, Jinro, Idra, fruitdealer, IMNestea, MKP, etc participating in MLG? Why?
Now at the moment foreign SC is still not blown away by korean SC2, and the game itself is still really not that great to watch for a lot of reasons (maps, blob vs blob warfare etc)
In time though with more macro / skilled maps etc, no one is gonna want to watch the players that practice 20 hours a week inbetween playing WoW or coaching. People will want to see the best players in the world (koreans that play 80 hours a week and the foreigners living in korean training houses). You can say "we aren't that far behind" but it's only gonna get harder and the koreans will only get better.
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On February 04 2011 01:34 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 01:31 Frack wrote:
sc2 in NA/EU doesnt need korea to be successful Wait, isn't the point of a tournament to attract the top players from the world? So, you're saying that you don't want MVP, oGsMC, Jinro, Idra, fruitdealer, IMNestea, MKP, etc participating in MLG? Why?
Im saying that their loss does not make the tournament, to me, any less of a prestigious tournament. Idra will be there btw and any other Korean that wants to make the investment. I think MLG's seeding idea is great personally, ensuring the committed and talented get their just dues over several events, it is a far superior format than the gsl and the pool of American and Euro talent it should pool is fantastic.
In an ideal world sure id love the Koreans to come in droves BUT i dont think the tournament needs it and I dont think their presence takes away from, what should be, an awesome series of casts.
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On February 04 2011 01:29 btlyger wrote:
More importantly why is Halo reach $100k? I don't want to start a flame war or anything about Halo, but as far as shooters go Halo Reach definitely wouldn't make my top 5. I'm glad for esports that there are 2 very different genres but... halo..... reach.... sigh.
Anyways, super excited about Starcraft 2, I think we may see more EU people in these tournaments because of the prize pool and hopefully a better and smoother experience compared to last years MLGs.
Halo is probably going to be a team game, not a 1v1. So divide that prize money 4 ways, which is how previous Halos have been for MLG and you'll see the prize money for the regular season is the same, but the prize money for the championship is substantially higher.
Now if they could only do something about extended series. One could only dream.
So excited.
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On February 04 2011 01:31 dacthehork wrote:
How is this in any way amazing?
5k for first place still ain't nothing huge, considering players will be flying from korea/europe on top of that. Factor in flight costs, hotels, etc.
Didn't they also recently secure like 8 million in additional funding for this year or something?
Also the finals for 50,000 and the others for 5,000 doesn't really make sense, would be better to even out each tournament.
Really? Just tell me this is a stupid troll.
Running an event is MUCH MORE expensive than the prize pool. How come 5k isn't huge? There are like 5 events in the world that have a bigger prize. Assembly winter is paying 5k euro overall and there is a bunch of top players going there to play. Also, the 2nd - 8th prize pool is also pretty good.
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On February 04 2011 01:32 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 01:29 btlyger wrote:
More importantly why is Halo reach $100k? I don't want to start a flame war or anything about Halo, but as far as shooters go Halo Reach definitely wouldn't make my top 5. I'm glad for esports that there are 2 very different genres but... halo..... reach.... sigh.
Anyways, super excited about Starcraft 2, I think we may see more EU people in these tournaments because of the prize pool and hopefully a better and smoother experience compared to last years MLGs. MLG has always been and most likely will be (for the forseeable future) centered around the Halo franchise.
Halo Reach also has 4... (or even 5?) players per Team. SC2 players get way more.
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I think MLG might lose more money trying to sponsor a tournament with 5k 1st prize pool.
This is asking people to come to a party when you only have 1 girl while theres 200 guys..
.not gonna happen. Btw this was just an anology, dont take it offensive
Kudos !
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I wonder if they are bumping up the production value? Closer to what they do with Halo?
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On February 04 2011 01:34 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 01:31 Frack wrote:
sc2 in NA/EU doesnt need korea to be successful Wait, isn't the point of a tournament to attract the top players from the world? So, you're saying that you don't want MVP, oGsMC, Jinro, Idra, fruitdealer, IMNestea, MKP, etc participating in MLG? Why?
That's not what he meant. I believe he just wanted to say that EU and NA events are getting so big that SC2 doens't needs Korea to be a successful e-Sport.
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On February 04 2011 01:38 Frack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2011 01:34 ptbl wrote:On February 04 2011 01:31 Frack wrote:
sc2 in NA/EU doesnt need korea to be successful Wait, isn't the point of a tournament to attract the top players from the world? So, you're saying that you don't want MVP, oGsMC, Jinro, Idra, fruitdealer, IMNestea, MKP, etc participating in MLG? Why? Im saying that their loss does not make the tournament, to me, any less of a prestigious tournament. Idra will be there btw and any other Korean that wants to make the investment. I think MLG's seeding idea is great personally, ensuring the committed and talented get their just dues over several events, it is a far superior format than the gsl and the pool of American and Euro talent it should pool is fantastic. In an ideal world sure id love the Koreans to come in droves BUT i dont think the tournament needs it and I dont think their presence takes away from, what should be, an a wesome series of casts.
"awesome series of casts" versus "awesome series of games"...
Also it does make the tournament less prestigious to not have the top players at it.
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MLG is going to be awesome this year. Looks big enough to attract all the big names from everywhere, including korea!
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On February 04 2011 01:41 LeFroMaGe wrote:
I wonder if they are bumping up the production value? Closer to what they do with Halo?
I hope they will take a page out of the old GSL book and string together videos of the players past games at the events or past games at past MLG events that would be pretty neat. Just something to give the audience a more emotional connection to the players and to the game.
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