EPTThis all sounds way better than what we've been hearing so far. Well done Gretech.
Gretech on PL negotiations - Page 6
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revy
United States1524 Posts
This all sounds way better than what we've been hearing so far. Well done Gretech. | ||
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robertdinh
803 Posts
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
On October 16 2010 21:44 infinity2k9 wrote: Best thing for eSports is to completely leave kespa alone and not start this shit in the first place if they really had that in mind. Nothing they've done is of benefit to esports. Yeah, everybody was a little worried about whether SC2 would take a share of BW's popularity, but I don't think any of us foresaw Blizzard/Gretech actively working to do everything they can to destroy BW. Even if Gretech was to drop all this shit right now, I imagine a lot of damage has been done. The speculation has really cast doubt whether BW will survive in the immediate future, and probably has been a contributing factor in the demise of eSTRO, CJ, and maybe MBC teams. If the sponsors think BW's death is imminent, they won't invest, and so the whole system is coming apart even if Gretech never follows through with litigation. I don't like Kespa, but Blizzard/Gretech have pissed me off a lot more. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On October 17 2010 00:17 XsebT wrote: I've never been this happy about an anti-climax. There are some parts not translated in the original post: On October 16 2010 22:17 Enigmatics wrote: I'm afraid but I have to say : there are few misunderstandings about this issue - Gretech is preparing legal actions and is appealing to the fans that it is inevitable, neccesary action. - 스타크래프트는 공공재가 아닙니다. 이것은 블리자드가 시간과 자원 및 인력을 투자한 결과물이며, 곰TV는 한국에서의 블리자드 공인 파트너로서 국내 스타크래프트 리그가 합법적인 방식으로 지속되도록 국내 파트너와 계약을 진행하고자 많은 노력을 기울여 왔습니다. Crude translation : Starcraft is NOT AN PUBLIC GOOD. It resulted from resources and manpowers that blizzard had invested, and GomTV, as the official partner of blizzard entertainment, has taken enourmous efforts to make contracts with the domestic partners, for that make it sure SC:BW leagues is legal. 곰TV는 최악의 상황을 피하기 위해 아직도 주어진 시간 내에 합의에 이를 수 있도록 최선의 노력을 기울이고 있습니다. 그러나 저희의 이러한 노력에도 불구하고 최악의 상황이 발생한다면, 앞으로 저희가 취할 수 밖에 없는 후속 조치에 대해 이해해주시기를 부탁 드립니다. Crude translation : GomTV is doing its best efforts to achieve mutual agreements in the given time limit in order to avoid the worst scenario. But if, regardless of our efforts, the worst happens, please understand that we will be forced to take 'extra action'. | ||
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Alaron
United States225 Posts
So much biased opinions in this thread and unjustified arguments with no backed up facts. | ||
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The6357
United States1268 Posts
also that 100million won...is that for each tourney or for a period of time...? | ||
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kataa
United Kingdom384 Posts
On October 16 2010 22:02 supernovamaniac wrote: If they shut down proleague, then they will look bad no matter what their stance is. Sure, they might have the IP rights to shut down proleague. Will it be justified? That I don't know. Will people like it? No. Looking really bad has never stopped a corperation from doing damage control before. In the end the courts will decide if it's 'justified'. The fact that damage control wont work, somehow doesn't quash my suspision that it's what they're attempting  | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
EDIT: Or maybe their sabre-rattling just wasn't translated? | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5757 Posts
On October 17 2010 01:04 The6357 wrote: ogn should be combined to one...then mbc can broadcast under name of ogn2 lol also that 100million won...is that for each tourney or for a period of time...? MBC as a whole is much larger than OGN, so it's not gonna happen. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On October 16 2010 20:30 Elroi wrote: That's what I meant, with these rules tournaments like Zotac (atleast how it was organized in BW) and minorleague won't happen. Why don't let anyone broadcast? - bad tournaments will die by them selves when they can't attract audience and sponsors. I bet they are just afraid that exactly that is going to happen to them. Very generous of them to let people have their own tournaments in pc bangs etc. Really, very generous.  I am pretty sure that they mean Television Broadcasts. If you take a look at the Blizzard Tournament submission form they want to know if the tournament is going to be broadcast and explicitly states that this mean Television Broadcast and not Internet Stream. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5757 Posts
On October 17 2010 01:10 tree.hugger wrote: It seems like KeSPA's notion that Gretech's original demands (as rumored and reported, at least) wouldn't sit well with the fans. There's more going on here, of course, but Gretech has wisely toned down their rhetoric here, at least. Well done to them, for once. EDIT: Or maybe their sabre-rattling just wasn't translated? I'm pretty sure that: "We are trying to say that license is needed to broadcast games, and acknowledge that Blizzard owns IP rights to all Blizzard games." = "Prior approvals about all league operations such as contracting sponsorship, marketing materials, broadcasting plan." and "GomTV is not looking to take just the money from Korea e-sports scene through the license. It's to protect the IP rights, which is a very important right for the content businesses, as well as their right to keep it." = "4. Ownership of all broadcasted programs, program videos." Also "The goal is to further increase the size of e-sports, as well as to make it more active through our involvement. To do this, it is important to create a strong relations with the players, teams, other broadcasting stations, and other partners, not just GomTV's own tournaments." might suggest they're still going to try to enforce contracts with progamers that'll override the contracts with their actual sponsors. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
If you'd just go back and read through everything from the get go, most of you would probably post less angrily and more relieved. Drop your hatred for whichever party you don't like, because it's probably not as founded as you think. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
now just insure the survival of OSL/MSL | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
On October 17 2010 02:04 Garaman wrote: whew.... proleague is safe. now just insure the survival of OSL/MSL OSL will continue...MSL is the real issue right now. | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
I demand a public apology for nada! WTF was up with that? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 16 2010 19:10 blade55555 wrote: Oh no now its Gretech "caving in" to most people. Gretech is still evil to most BW people atm. I do hope they let at least the OSL as I do want at least 1 individual starleague and proleague ^^ You mean gretech is evilt o most BW foreigners. the korean fans dislike kespa. | ||
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JustQuitWarcraftIII
United States679 Posts
Ironic that GomTV would mention high-quality broadcasting considering their problematic streams during GSL1. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 17 2010 02:36 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote: Ironic that GomTV would mention high-quality broadcasting considering their problematic streams during GSL1. Lol, overseas streams are not what they're talking about. Who cares about streams in Korea? It's about television broadcasting which GOM has never had a problem with | ||
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