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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66202 Posts
October 16 2010 06:49 GMT
#21
On October 16 2010 15:48 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 15:15 Selith wrote:
First is the fees. GomTV stated, 'Each tournaments will cost 1 won (ed. That's not a mistranslation, it really said 1 won), and broadcasting fee is 100 million won'. The reason for the broadcasting fee is to have only the corporations who are capable planning a high-quality e-sports tournaments, broadcasting, and provide high-quality broadcast for the players and the viewers.

A jab at MBC's incompetence?

pretty sure MBC broadcasts better than Gom.

MBC is one of the major broadcasting stations in Korea, if you don't realise.
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xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
October 16 2010 06:50 GMT
#22
Does this finally quell the rumor of Gretech wanting to kill BW? Lol
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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
October 16 2010 06:50 GMT
#23
Nice to hear for proleague ^^
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 16 2010 06:53 GMT
#24
So basically they have to pay about 100K USD every year to broadcast PL and other major tournaments?
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
October 16 2010 06:55 GMT
#25
On October 16 2010 15:53 Disregard wrote:
So basically they have to pay about 100K USD every year to broadcast PL and other major tournaments?


That's how I read it: 100k USD fee for OGN/MBC and 1 Won for KeSPA? I'm confused.
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 16 2010 06:56 GMT
#26
While I'm glad to be watching PL right now, it still feels extremely wrong to see Gretech lording over the entire scene like this.

Err... I mean: What a kind and merciful gesture by king Gretech to allow it's lowly subjects to continue the Proleague!


Sickening really, this type of business.
Oh, my eSports
Selith
Profile Joined September 2010
United States238 Posts
October 16 2010 06:56 GMT
#27
On October 16 2010 15:50 xBillehx wrote:
Does this finally quell the rumor of Gretech wanting to kill BW? Lol


Not really. The article does not mean to say that Gretech isn't interested in stopping "illegal" tournaments and leagues. Note how they reinforce the idea of IP rights and how important it is. KeSPA refuses to acknowledge any and all IP rights whatsoever involving StarCraft.

So storm isn't over yet. Gretech is only willing to let Proleague etc. to continue only if negotiations are finalized. Otherwise...
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 16 2010 06:59 GMT
#28
On October 16 2010 15:15 Selith wrote:
GomTV said, "The goal is to further increase the size of e-sports, as well as to make it more active through our involvement.


I hate PR -.-
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BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
October 16 2010 07:01 GMT
#29
Sounds promising for Bw to live on!
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
October 16 2010 07:04 GMT
#30
On October 16 2010 15:53 Disregard wrote:
So basically they have to pay about 100K USD every year to broadcast PL and other major tournaments?


Yeah, but isn't 100k USD just mere pennies for major companies like this?

It seems like that is a very small amount of money when you're talking corporations.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
October 16 2010 07:10 GMT
#31
Gretech are acting about 1000% more mature in all of this than KeSPA. I always had my doubts about the things KeSPA kept saying, and the attitude they described regarding Gretech. Good move by Gretech to stay silent and not sink to the same level.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
October 16 2010 07:10 GMT
#32
Gretech hasn't been straight up on their goals all throughout negotiations. Of course when a company speaks directly to fans they'll phrase things in a way that sounds pleasing to the ear, even if it's not true.

Until the end they didn't want MBC to broadcast for trivial reasons.
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
October 16 2010 07:10 GMT
#33
Can't they just continue with their tournaments...?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
October 16 2010 07:11 GMT
#34
On October 16 2010 15:49 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 15:48 okum wrote:
On October 16 2010 15:15 Selith wrote:
First is the fees. GomTV stated, 'Each tournaments will cost 1 won (ed. That's not a mistranslation, it really said 1 won), and broadcasting fee is 100 million won'. The reason for the broadcasting fee is to have only the corporations who are capable planning a high-quality e-sports tournaments, broadcasting, and provide high-quality broadcast for the players and the viewers.

A jab at MBC's incompetence?

pretty sure MBC broadcasts better than Gom.

MBC is one of the major broadcasting stations in Korea, if you don't realise.


lol

mbc have tech problems every two or three games. gom is more competent right now.
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xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
October 16 2010 07:13 GMT
#35
On October 16 2010 15:56 Selith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 15:50 xBillehx wrote:
Does this finally quell the rumor of Gretech wanting to kill BW? Lol


Not really. The article does not mean to say that Gretech isn't interested in stopping "illegal" tournaments and leagues. Note how they reinforce the idea of IP rights and how important it is. KeSPA refuses to acknowledge any and all IP rights whatsoever involving StarCraft.

So storm isn't over yet. Gretech is only willing to let Proleague etc. to continue only if negotiations are finalized. Otherwise...

Right, but the rumors were that Gretech was imposing some unreasonable demands that KeSPA would never accept because they wanted to kill BW for SC2. Yet here are (in my opinion) pretty reasonable terms and the assurance that the BW Proleague is continuing on both MBC and OGN. The idea that KeSPA refuses to acknowledge anything means it'd be KeSPA killing other BW leagues, not Gretech. I just fail to see the intent to kill BW from Gretechs statement. (Assuming this is all true.)

Though really, I hope KeSPA does acknowledge it so all BW leagues can continue alongside SC2 until, if ever, it dies of old age.
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Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 16 2010 07:15 GMT
#36
On October 16 2010 15:46 Emon_ wrote:
About the 100million won fee for tournaments - didn't KeSPA say that the max they would go to was 55-60million? I think it was in one of the news posts about the negotiations.

Also, why is this post released now? If they really cared about the scene this could've come two weeks ago. There is nothing earth shattering in the document. Only when KeSPA went ahead with the SPL despite there being no contract and possibly facing a lawsuit do they decide to speak up. GomTV/Gretech are handling this like amateurs. Shows how much Blizzard really cares about BW.

Kespa offered 300 million won I think
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QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
October 16 2010 07:16 GMT
#37
On October 16 2010 16:15 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 15:46 Emon_ wrote:
About the 100million won fee for tournaments - didn't KeSPA say that the max they would go to was 55-60million? I think it was in one of the news posts about the negotiations.

Also, why is this post released now? If they really cared about the scene this could've come two weeks ago. There is nothing earth shattering in the document. Only when KeSPA went ahead with the SPL despite there being no contract and possibly facing a lawsuit do they decide to speak up. GomTV/Gretech are handling this like amateurs. Shows how much Blizzard really cares about BW.

Kespa offered 300 million won I think

Yeah, that was reported in one of the other threads. And it was stated that Gretech rejected the 300 million won. What gives?
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Selith
Profile Joined September 2010
United States238 Posts
October 16 2010 07:19 GMT
#38
On October 16 2010 16:16 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Yeah, that was reported in one of the other threads. And it was stated that Gretech rejected the 300 million won. What gives?


Gretech wants IP rights acknowledged more than the money.
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
October 16 2010 07:19 GMT
#39
Gretech playing the good cop bad cop, first being bad doing dumb shit like throwing a fit over MBC, now playing PR trying to get a good image with the public. Best thing for BW E-Sports is to just take the money and leave Kespa alone.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 16 2010 07:21 GMT
#40
On October 16 2010 16:19 Selith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 16:16 QuothTheRaven wrote:
Yeah, that was reported in one of the other threads. And it was stated that Gretech rejected the 300 million won. What gives?


Gretech wants IP rights acknowledged more than the money.

Yeah IP rights have nothing to do with money. Oh wait.
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