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My clanmate and I were just screwing around one day, and we decided to do a ZvP game. Keep in mind, this is D level.
We wanted to see if he could do a gas-heavy build by taking one of his four drones and getting an extractor on the spot. It worked.
With 4 gas, although you have a 25% drop in minerals, you could get gas on demand and perhaps get a quicker lair; and quicker mutas. Hydra/Muta doesn't deprive you of gas... much.
So I don't know if this only works on D level, and I couldn't get a replay cause my launcher is being retarded and won't work, I'll get one as soon as I can get the thing up and running with ChaosPlugin.
Questions/Comments/Angry Noob Insults?
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..what? you can't even use your gas until your pool is done. using one of your first drones on an extractor + your first 50 minerals (essentially another drone's worth of minerals) will delay you pool like crazy. And then if you actually put any drones on gas, it will delay you even more.
Conclusion: you are a troll.
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This merits a strategy forum ban imo...
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Newsflash: Taking your gas at 4 supply increases your gas.
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unless you get one of those p players who build an assimilator on your geyser
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Your in depth knowledge of StarCraft is unrivaled around these parts.
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I think you'll find in the long run your tech will be faster if you don't do this =/
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not if you get him straight away
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yo with that quick gas upgrade burrow and do a 3 drone burrow rush
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On August 16 2009 02:26 redneck_mike wrote:
unless you get one of those p players who build an assimilator on your geyser
If a Protoss steals your gas fast in a 1v1 game you laugh at him, say "thank you", and proceed to take your third hatchery while tearing down the assimilator with your lings.
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you're gonna have superlate hydras/lair tech though...
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no guys this works do the 3 drone burrow rush like houseurmusic said
you attack his probes with ur 3 drones. then when he gets the message "ur base is under attack" he will go back to look but u burrow and he will be really confused. if u keep doing this u can kill all his probes b4 he realizes it
please don't ban me
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I think a 4 probe rush bo would counter this, or would you be able to handle it with superior micro?
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well if u get burrow then he can't hit ur drones! so what u do is u attack his probes (with good micro of course) and when ur drone is almost dead u burrow it. then u let it recover health. now u may be thinking "but probes recover health to" but that is NOT TRUE bcuz they only recover 20 shield points and not their hp. so after a while ur drones will have full health and his will have 20 shield but only 1 hp. and that is ez win.
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On August 16 2009 03:14 fusionsdf wrote:
this thread is AMAZING
Agreed. Rep please.
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On August 16 2009 02:21 Piy wrote:
This merits a strategy forum ban imo...
So what are you waiting for? Get the ban stick out and whack him.
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I can't believe that "4 gas works" either.
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this is joke thread right? cuz if it is u did ur job, i am LoL hard reading the replys
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Let me 4 gas and have 3 drones on gas and 1 mining when gas is done so I can have 1000 gas when my pool is done. That way I can get faster ultras.
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aren't you supposed to be in a town hall?
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This works on many levels
1) It prevents gas rushes as you're taking your gas far before he can even has the chance to scout you, even if you're playing a P that likes to scout with one of his first four probes. And since they're sacrificing so much economy just to gas rush, taking your gas slows them down so much. Take that, gas rusher
2) As many have said, it allows you to research burrow, so against 2 gaters, you can burrow your drones so you don't lose any. You lose one drone building the extractor, so as long as burrow saves you more than 1 drone, it's already worth it. So all you zergs that lose atleast 1 drone in a given game, don't laugh at this tactic, it would make your economy greater by saving drones
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This build encourages unorthodox play that can still be effective, like a queen/scourge army. It's like sair/reaver, but with suicidal units that aren't reavers.
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lol, 9 extractor 8pool is perfect timing for lair. as soon as pool finishes you will have about 100 gas and 150 minerals. This is the fastest most efficient tech afaik.
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Umm actually this could work....
I mean while you´re making the Extractor you can scout with all the rest of the drones, then come back and mine the gas empty. At that point you have huge loads of gas and you can do as gas heavy build as you can imagine. You also have valuable scouting info!
You sir are a genious and I´m certain this will become a standard ZvP opening.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Best ZvP BO:
4 - Extractor
3 - Creep colony
2 - Evo chamber
1 - Pool
Works 99%.
Not. seriously, why people make such stupid threads >.<
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not only do u have to waste a drone to make the extractor, but you have to get at least 1 more to mine from it. lol
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On August 16 2009 02:30 houseurmusic wrote:
yo with that quick gas upgrade burrow and do a 3 drone burrow rush
works every time
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You know, when I first read this thread I thought he meant he was putting 4 drones on gas instead of 3. I was sadly disappointed.
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plz post a rep im dying to see how anyone could win with this
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this is half as awesome as that "how to beat a lurker with a merine" thread hahaha
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On August 16 2009 03:53 Nevuk wrote:
You know, when I first read this thread I thought he meant he was putting 4 drones on gas instead of 3. I was sadly disappointed.
lol same
if u wanna see a quick gas-tech build check calm vs sea game
4 gas is just way too early and useless
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On August 16 2009 03:53 Nevuk wrote:
You know, when I first read this thread I thought he meant he was putting 4 drones on gas instead of 3. I was sadly disappointed.
I thought he meant taking 4 gases fast :/
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i dont know why you guys are bashing his strat, its pretty standard. you've never seen 4gas, 5pool, 9den?
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Remember that game where someone did this and then killed their gas before the opponent scouted it after getting ling speed?
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On August 16 2009 03:53 Nevuk wrote:
You know, when I first read this thread I thought he meant he was putting 4 drones on gas instead of 3. I was sadly disappointed.
I read the this thread and thought it would be about how 4 bases with gas was good against terran - which I would have said DUHHHHHH LOL NOOB, and left. Instead, I now have a 100% winning rate on iccup with the 4 gas drone burrow manner hatchery sunken rush.
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I just lost vs Comp(T) using 4 gas. Once my spire was up I had 1,2k gas but couldn't spend it as I only had 1 Hatch and not enough minerals. Can you give a more specific BO so I can figure out what I did wrong? Thank you.
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all fast tech builds blow
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I'm sorry but that was the 5gas burrow build which gets burrow too late to be effective. I will try to get a good replay of me executing this strat later.
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4gas is of course the obvious Zerg build. After all, it's a known fact that Zerg does nothing with minerals and only lives off gas. That's why it's essential to make the gas with one of your first drones and mine it with your other three. The downfall is that you'll have 0 minerals but who cares?
umm... and either this is a troll or you're a really amazing player, losing as Protoss to a 4gas.
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hint:scouting probe= zealot comes=dead zerg
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why is this thread not closed
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burrow rush! its like the stove.
when toss scouts u burrow all ur drones, and he'll b like wTF!?!? and he'll probably think your going all in at his front, then u start mining again while hes making mass cannons and pulling probes to block. Then you proceed to macro, while the toss is paranoid about some crazy drone/ling rush.
(why didn't I think of this earlier...)
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Show some mercy to 13 years old kid.
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i think 4 spire is a better build, faster muta and usually ends all ZvP ZvZ games. just don't get 4 scouted.
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EPT
