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iheartgna
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States184 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 18:14:45
May 30 2009 18:12 GMT
#241
I was gonna make a blog post on him eventually. K'naan is the man.

Soobax: His most famous song/ First single from the Dusty Foot Philosopher


What's Hardcore: Again, from the Dusty Foot Philosopher, this time it's much more lyrical- he talks about growing up in Somalia.


Fatima: My favorite song off of the new album Troubadour. Great story telling


Take a Minute: Great song, very chill - truly inspirational.


Wavin' Flag: ... it's like Bob Marley Reincarnate


Edit: Forgot the 2nd Best song on the new album:






Hell is other people.
Shamanu
Profile Joined August 2004
Romania8 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 18:00:50
June 05 2009 17:59 GMT
#242
On May 31 2009 03:12 iheartgna wrote:
I was gonna make a blog post on him eventually. K'naan is the man.

Soobax: His most famous song/ First single from the Dusty Foot Philosopher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t5l31IVkC4

What's Hardcore: Again, from the Dusty Foot Philosopher, this time it's much more lyrical- he talks about growing up in Somalia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0IuUXHBkaw

Fatima: My favorite song off of the new album Troubadour. Great story telling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6e7Tg6rSgI&feature=related

Take a Minute: Great song, very chill - truly inspirational.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIhm94a-8SE

Wavin' Flag: ... it's like Bob Marley Reincarnate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC8V8S_REhk

Edit: Forgot the 2nd Best song on the new album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lCPXEARpE8


thank you,he's really good;)
ata ete .... viatza`i cruda...
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 18:23:00
June 05 2009 18:21 GMT
#243
Artist: Curren$y
Track Name: Galaxy Rap



My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
chekyosikz
Profile Joined March 2008
United States24 Posts
June 05 2009 23:52 GMT
#244
On February 01 2009 06:37 CharlieMurphy wrote:
You are missing the point of underground vs mainstream. Not all underground is good (as mentioned about IT or whoever). It's still better than 90% of the mainstream. Stuff is mainstream for a few reasons; 1 - to sell records and make money (not for the musical/lyrical content), 2 - to gain power,fame, etc.,
These people are not in it for the music. If they knew they wouldn't get paid they probably wouldn't do it.

What exactly does 'in it for the music' mean? Do you only listen to artists who don't make money from their music?

On February 01 2009 06:37 CharlieMurphy wrote:
People are generally not underground because 'they can't make it' or whatever, they are there by choice.

This strikes me as odd, wouldn't these 'underground' artists want more people to hear their message? I have this idea (it's stupid, I know) that music is a means of expressing oneself. Why not just keep a diary if the work isn't supposed to become known?


On February 01 2009 06:37 CharlieMurphy wrote:
The thing is people claim to be underground or whatever and they just don't know much about the genre (or hip-hop) at all. This is when I get the offense/defense up and let them know. So naturally when people come in posting Jedi Mind Trick videos and saying 'THIS IS THE BEST SONG', I have to disagree and explain why. Some of these underground guys may still be in it for just the fame/money but they don't really mention it in their lyrics (which is why it's still better than most mainstreamed), but it's still not that great.

Could you publish your checklist/grading sheet for determining the quality of music please? I'm tired of this whole 'having-my-own-opinions' bullshit so it would be great if you could help me to share the same exact tastes in music as you. I dunno what's wrong with my own tastes; I guess its inferior DNA or something. Oh shit! I just realized that you probably can't do that because once everyone thinks exactly like you then you won't feel so goddamn special anymore and then you'd have to like mainstream rap. My bad.

On February 01 2009 09:19 CharlieMurphy wrote:
As far as being able to tell underground from mainstream, I could probably get 95% of it correct without having previous knowledge of artists.

/golfclap

On February 03 2009 09:48 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Like I could list all my favorite MCs and I would bet 95% of them you guys have never even heard of. And would probably change your mind about underground sucking or whining or whatever. But I'm not going to because you're being closed minded, so why should I share?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh, the irony.

On February 01 2009 12:00 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2009 09:57 Sadist wrote:
Now I like some "underground" artists but seriously this whole idea that mainstream people suck is fucking retarded. Quite a few of them can rap even if you dont like them at all. I dont care for Eminem bitching about kim and his daughter and whining about shit....but in terms of rapping ability his multi's are pretty damn sick. Nas is mainstream...jay-z....big pun....Biggie..Tupac... seriously. Are you telling me TI cant rap? I mean fuck.

Anyway..just my little rant =-)


A lot of people are just like you, that have this distorted biased view of how all hip-hop/rap should sound. That's wrong imo, but its also fine. You can like whatever you want, you're missing out though.

Distorted biased view? Sadist even said that he didn't like Eminem right before he complimented his skill. Your views are the distorted ones. Regardless of ones personal preferences, any fan of hip-hop/rap should have respect for talent when they see it, regardless of what label/category nit-picking elitists put them under.

On February 03 2009 09:48 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Like I could list all my favorite MCs and I would bet 95% of them you guys have never even heard of. And would probably change your mind about underground sucking or whining or whatever. But I'm not going to because you're being closed minded, so why should I share?

Why should you share? Well... the first thing that came to my mind was to share so that you don't look like you're completely full of shit. But then again, I've been lurking on TL long enough to know that you're perfectly comfortable with being full of shit; so please, by all means, continue.


With that aside, my personal favorite artist is Tech N9ne, particularly his older solo works and 57 street RDV.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 00:48:30
June 06 2009 00:42 GMT
#245
I already explained most of this shit, and I also said I'm not gonna argue about this stuff anymore. The first two I will reply to as they are facts and not opinion.

"In it for the music" is not hard to understand. How much more do I need to explain this?
Most of the mainstream/record label people have owners and higher up people (I dunno exactly what their titles are) breathing down their, neck calling them, telling them to make songs, and trying to basically 'force art' in order to sell more records and make more money. The people I listen to mostly make the shit on their own time which results in more quality over quantity. IE, Guys will release maybe 1 good album every few years instead of 2 every year or whatever with a bunch of crappy filler songs and/or skits.

A bonus to this imo is that it makes the music easier to relate to as well. They don't have this flood of money corrupting their lifestyle and changing their mentality. Just think of how much better the first or underground versions of eminem or Jay-z for example. Its always better before they make it big, because they want to make it so much more, they have that desire and drive to make great music. Then once they make it, they don't really care as much anymore they 'hustled' their money and are just doing the minimal instead of really striving to make good music to get heard. They are already heard, they can release whatever crap they want and people will eat it up. (just look at eminem's latest trash album).

I never said underground people were self righteous or trying to spread any kind of message. They make their music for themselves and whoever the fuck cares to listen. Their goal is not to sell as many records as possible or get as many listeners as possible, their goal is just to make music and if it sells that's just a plus. Most of them have day jobs and make most of their money at shows selling merch to people who actually come out to see and socialize with them.

In fact a few of the DJs/Producers on the underground scene that I listen to actually have their beats used in commercials and even as Intros on NPR which is debatably selling out, but no one even cares/knows for the most part who made the song for the commercial. Which is again, they don't care if you like their music.

In summation, underground artists are they because they don't care about money and just want to make their own music how they want to. Not because they think its superior.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
June 06 2009 01:01 GMT
#246
The whole illmatic album.. thats all I can say..
No no no no its not mine!
chekyosikz
Profile Joined March 2008
United States24 Posts
June 06 2009 02:36 GMT
#247
On June 06 2009 09:42 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I already explained most of this shit, and I also said I'm not gonna argue about this stuff anymore. The first two I will reply to as they are facts and not opinion.

"In it for the music" is not hard to understand. How much more do I need to explain this?
Most of the mainstream/record label people have owners and higher up people (I dunno exactly what their titles are) breathing down their, neck calling them, telling them to make songs, and trying to basically 'force art' in order to sell more records and make more money. The people I listen to mostly make the shit on their own time which results in more quality over quantity. IE, Guys will release maybe 1 good album every few years instead of 2 every year or whatever with a bunch of crappy filler songs and/or skits.

A bonus to this imo is that it makes the music easier to relate to as well. They don't have this flood of money corrupting their lifestyle and changing their mentality. Just think of how much better the first or underground versions of eminem or Jay-z for example. Its always better before they make it big, because they want to make it so much more, they have that desire and drive to make great music. Then once they make it, they don't really care as much anymore they 'hustled' their money and are just doing the minimal instead of really striving to make good music to get heard. They are already heard, they can release whatever crap they want and people will eat it up. (just look at eminem's latest trash album).

I never said underground people were self righteous or trying to spread any kind of message. They make their music for themselves and whoever the fuck cares to listen. Their goal is not to sell as many records as possible or get as many listeners as possible, their goal is just to make music and if it sells that's just a plus. Most of them have day jobs and make most of their money at shows selling merch to people who actually come out to see and socialize with them.

In fact a few of the DJs/Producers on the underground scene that I listen to actually have their beats used in commercials and even as Intros on NPR which is debatably selling out, but no one even cares/knows for the most part who made the song for the commercial. Which is again, they don't care if you like their music.

In summation, underground artists are they because they don't care about money and just want to make their own music how they want to. Not because they think its superior.


That's a pretty big generalization. I've written a few raps of my own for myself because I enjoy it and I love rap. I don't expect any money for it and I have no intention of trying to make any money off of it either. Am I better than Jay Z and Eminem now?
ultramagnetics
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland215 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 02:41:38
June 06 2009 02:37 GMT
#248
Check it out:





roflMe
Profile Joined May 2009
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 02:40:07
June 06 2009 02:38 GMT
#249
soulja boy is the best hip hop artist
haha
ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
June 06 2009 02:42 GMT
#250


Back when hiphop was righteous yo!
iheartgna
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States184 Posts
June 06 2009 03:01 GMT
#251
Oh man, the arguments in this thread are so silly...

Also, I sympathize with true hip hop heads being stuck in the past but contemporary hip hop is where it's at

Mayday mayday




Hell is other people.
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 03:18:36
June 06 2009 03:15 GMT
#252
" and if we get to fighting then im jocking on yo bitch ass " - soulja boy.

I'm from a foreign country and I'm more lyrical than this.

Lyrical meaning intelligence of my words.


Edit : Foreign****
No no no no its not mine!
zoast
Profile Joined February 2007
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 03:43:27
June 06 2009 03:40 GMT
#253
On January 31 2009 08:58 Sadist wrote:
Summertime IMO greatest hip hop song ever.

just want to mention the origins of this song because it (summer madness) is one of the chillest songs to sit back and relax to. I was suprised to find this (live album) version online, its the best but I couldnt find it earlier when I looked.



Im generally not a big rap fan, but Ive been getting into old school rap lately, here are my favorites so far


No bassline or music in a song sounds like a bad thing on paper, but I love it here, it seems like a pure form of rap or something, couple a groovy beat with amazing mc'ing and thats it thats all. oh yeah so this is also the song moby sampled a hook from and got famous off of


"We rock, and don't stop
Well, it's the supercagifragilisticexpialidocious, with no strings attached, no bags of tricks, this is the way we get our kicks
We're qualifyin, rectifyin, rock until the day we're dyin, everytime you're scream and cryin, well, we're here with no denyin
We hold our honor and our pride, just take a step and kept in stride, set down rules you will abide, we're gonna take you for a ride
Before we rock and have some fun, let's introduce us 1 by 1..."

...apparently this was the first song to use "fast rapping".

not as old, but I like ATCQ alot too




next one isnt old school but whatever, keith has been around since the old days. edit: haha someone just posted ultramagnetic while I was writing this, nice

"Now, we're as sick as anyone of the "vulgar" words being overused incessantly in our hip-hop saturated world. And lame-ass toilet humor is really tired, but man, don't put this into any category like that. There's mania here that goes way beyond shock/schlock or any other such lame crutch —at the risk of over-analyzing the sublime nature of the lyrics, consider for instance this chorus:

New York City
We piss in it
We live in it
We die...
We all take shits in it

You could be forgiven for writing this off at first glance as dumb poo poo humour and not the post-apocalyptic Haiku that is actually is. But as Keith delivers this unironic mantra repeatedly, he strikes some obscure vein in the cultural feng shui perfectly enough to trigger us into some kind of vortex state where it just gets more and more incredible, funnier and funnier, and more real and "in the moment" than anything previously imaginable. I mean, is that even funny? Read it again.

Keith has an unparalleled ability to deliver this kind of stuff. He takes us to a higher mental octave — and shit, piss, fuck etc. are there in that octave, so don't kid yourself."

and finally, my favorite moment in hip hop:
coolio getting pissed about weird al doing amish paradise
"I ain't with that. No. I didn't give it any sanction ... I think he's wrong for that, because his record company asked for my permission, and I said no. But they did it anyway. I couldn't stop him. But you know, more power to him. I hope they sell a lot of records. Just stay away from me."

I cant believe they gave coolios ass royalty checks for that :\ ! Weird Al shouldve asked stevie wonders permission in the first place, he's the one who wrote all the hooks!
I dont like stuff that sucks
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 06 2009 03:44 GMT
#254


This song is beautiful! Lupe Fiasco is a great rapper, but Tokimonsta steps it up with a great, soothing beat. The flute in this song is ingenious
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Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
June 06 2009 03:47 GMT
#255


Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
n
Profile Joined May 2009
United States48 Posts
June 06 2009 21:12 GMT
#256




TehKris
Profile Joined October 2006
Norway322 Posts
June 06 2009 21:53 GMT
#257
Pro Red Alert 2 gamer, aka TR)Microzone on sc.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
July 07 2009 03:41 GMT
#258
Go ahead and sue if me this has already been posted because I'm broke anyway.

My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
July 07 2009 04:31 GMT
#259


lol @ charliemurphy
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
August 26 2009 07:50 GMT
#260
Well, this thread is valuable and worth bumping with something new/good.

I love Blackstar ft. Q-tip | Make it all better, but was dismayed that I didn't find it on youtube. So I published it.

PS CharlieMurphy is full of shit and most of the stuff he posted was below par of almost every other post.
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