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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 16 2009 17:15 GMT
#21
Spartan please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 16 2009 17:24 GMT
#22
On January 17 2009 02:14 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 00:31 Spartan wrote:
Anyways I find it weird how their government's communist views are now being reflected onto the virtual world.


STOP BREATHING


DIAF
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 16 2009 17:27 GMT
#23
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Spartan please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.

I was going to ask the same thing. I think we largely have Reagan to blame for these vestiges of the red scare (among so much else, lol).
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 16 2009 17:41 GMT
#24
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Spartan please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.


State interfering with personal freedom, for the good of everyone. I don't know, it does sound like a communist ideal when I look at it, definately not something that would ever pass in liberal countries.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
January 16 2009 17:42 GMT
#25
--- Nuked ---
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8100 Posts
January 16 2009 17:48 GMT
#26
On January 17 2009 01:55 KingofHearts wrote:
China has a smart government. dayum. i support it. with this new name registration law, those who committed crime can be traced and caught easily. unless,, someone else uses your name.

Yeah, it's good!

Big Brother is watching you and there is no crime anymore.

Are you just an idiot or do you really believe what you are saying?

China is a fucking dictature, the governement wants to have as much control on people as they can, including on the internet. If you believe that's good, go live in North Korea.

Sometimes I understand why democraties are so fragiles: because people are not smart enough to give any value to their liberty. And I'm not talking about the liberty of buying a new pair of Nike shoes, but of the liberty of not having to give you id everywhere you go and be under control in whatever you do.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 17:52:49
January 16 2009 17:52 GMT
#27
On January 17 2009 02:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 01:55 KingofHearts wrote:
China has a smart government. dayum. i support it. with this new name registration law, those who committed crime can be traced and caught easily. unless,, someone else uses your name.

Yeah, it's good!

Big Brother is watching you and there is no crime anymore.

Are you just an idiot or do you really believe what you are saying?

China is a fucking dictature, the governement wants to have as much control on people as they can, including on the internet. If you believe that's good, go live in North Korea.

Sometimes I understand why democraties are so fragiles: because people are not smart enough to give any value to their liberty. And I'm not talking about the liberty of buying a new pair of Nike shoes, but of the liberty of not having to give you id everywhere you go and be under control in whatever you do.


Biff, you are understudy lawl
moshi moshi~
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
January 16 2009 17:57 GMT
#28
this thread is misleading in many ways.

the main reason a foreigner cannot register for a korean online game is because the registration requires a korean citizenship social security number. this is nothing like communism.
SNSD fan
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
January 16 2009 17:58 GMT
#29
On January 17 2009 02:41 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Spartan please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.


State interfering with personal freedom, for the good of everyone. I don't know, it does sound like a communist ideal when I look at it, definately not something that would ever pass in liberal countries.

Have you heard about laws?
I think law system is "state interfering with personal freedom, for the good of everyone".
I mean you can't just go and kill that guy, rape that chick, and rob that grandma, and get away with it.

I don't think the communism is that bad in china anyways, but i haven't studied it.
Maybe they have other problems like poverty and humane right issues (child workers and political prisoners).

Political prisoners is the worst thing i know about china, and then comes poverty (which probably leads to child workers right?)
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
January 16 2009 18:07 GMT
#30
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
HeadBangaa, please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.

No problem.
This act expresses the statist social restrictions common to both communism and fascism; by dismantling the infrastructure of privacy, the government strengthens its ability to enforce said social restrictions.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
January 16 2009 18:27 GMT
#31
On January 17 2009 03:07 HeadBangaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
HeadBangaa, please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.

No problem.
This act expresses the statist social restrictions common to both communism and fascism; by dismantling the infrastructure of privacy, the government strengthens its ability to enforce said social restrictions.



If making people register with their real names on video games instead of using a false id is communist then I don't even want to know what you think of our Patriots Act...
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 18:31:16
January 16 2009 18:30 GMT
#32
On January 17 2009 02:48 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 01:55 KingofHearts wrote:
China has a smart government. dayum. i support it. with this new name registration law, those who committed crime can be traced and caught easily. unless,, someone else uses your name.

Yeah, it's good!

Big Brother is watching you and there is no crime anymore.

Are you just an idiot or do you really believe what you are saying?

China is a fucking dictature, the governement wants to have as much control on people as they can, including on the internet. If you believe that's good, go live in North Korea.

Sometimes I understand why democraties are so fragiles: because people are not smart enough to give any value to their liberty. And I'm not talking about the liberty of buying a new pair of Nike shoes, but of the liberty of not having to give you id everywhere you go and be under control in whatever you do.



I didn't have to give id anywhere I go in China. Except when I buy alcohol. What a fucking dictature (<= what the hell is this word even mean?) country.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 18:39:04
January 16 2009 18:32 GMT
#33
On January 17 2009 03:27 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 03:07 HeadBangaa wrote:
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
HeadBangaa, please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.

No problem.
This act expresses the statist social restrictions common to both communism and fascism; by dismantling the infrastructure of privacy, the government strengthens its ability to enforce said social restrictions.



If making people register with their real names on video games instead of using a false id is communist then I don't even want to know what you think of our Patriots Act...


You're leaving out the part where the government restricts the amount of time you are allowed to play a game, with the intention of making you a more effective and valuable contributer to the state.

On January 17 2009 02:58 MuR)Ernu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 02:41 Frits wrote:
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Spartan please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.


State interfering with personal freedom, for the good of everyone. I don't know, it does sound like a communist ideal when I look at it, definately not something that would ever pass in liberal countries.

Have you heard about laws?
I think law system is "state interfering with personal freedom, for the good of everyone".
I mean you can't just go and kill that guy, rape that chick, and rob that grandma, and get away with it.

I don't think the communism is that bad in china anyways, but i haven't studied it.
Maybe they have other problems like poverty and humane right issues (child workers and political prisoners).

Political prisoners is the worst thing i know about china, and then comes poverty (which probably leads to child workers right?)


The law does not interfere, it protects the rights of individuals, while China often justifies breaking those rights for the greater good (how many lost their house again for the olympics, with basically no compensation?) There's a difference between directing someone's free time and limiting someone from breaking someone elses rights.

You don't think it's bad, but you have no idea what it's like, kind of a silly thing to say. It's definately not good for the individual, studies show that generally people in democratic countries lead happier lives than individuals in communistic countries.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-16 18:34:48
January 16 2009 18:34 GMT
#34
On January 17 2009 03:32 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 03:27 KissBlade wrote:
On January 17 2009 03:07 HeadBangaa wrote:
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
HeadBangaa, please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.

No problem.
This act expresses the statist social restrictions common to both communism and fascism; by dismantling the infrastructure of privacy, the government strengthens its ability to enforce said social restrictions.



If making people register with their real names on video games instead of using a false id is communist then I don't even want to know what you think of our Patriots Act...


You're leaving out the part where the government restricts the amount of time you are allowed to play a game, with the intention of making you a more effective and valuable contributer to the state.



Yes. Because after you play those three hours, you must go work in the factory after. God forbid you go outside and get some fresh air. Honestly, I think the idea is kinda lame. (Exp reduction) but the intention of making you a m ore effective and valuable contributor to the state? A bit of a stretch dont' you think? Look, you don't like China. We get it. Just put it in your sig instead of distorting every thread with China = dictatorship.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
January 16 2009 18:38 GMT
#35
[QUOTE]On January 17 2009 00:31 Spartan wrote:
People play in these virtual communities to hide from the real world for many reasons such as self-insecurity, playing a different personality, or even just to hide from friends and family.
[QUOTE]
what about playing just to have fun? not everyone is hiding from reality.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
January 16 2009 18:40 GMT
#36
[QUOTE]On January 17 2009 03:38 Mastermind wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 17 2009 00:31 Spartan wrote:
People play in these virtual communities to hide from the real world for many reasons such as self-insecurity, playing a different personality, or even just to hide from friends and family.
[QUOTE]
what about playing just to have fun? not everyone is hiding from reality. [/QUOTE]


This thread is just a slight full of stereotyping if you didn't notice. =)
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
January 16 2009 18:41 GMT
#37
Hum and i guess putting 12345 FakeAss Lane for my address is wrong too.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
January 16 2009 18:42 GMT
#38
I find it hard, with my cultural upbringing different than that of a kid from China, to actually try and critique the views of the Chinese government on things like video game playing. If you called me lazy and fat because I was from the US I'd probably call you an asshole too, you know>?
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
January 16 2009 18:45 GMT
#39
On January 17 2009 03:42 cgrinker wrote:
I find it hard, with my cultural upbringing different than that of a kid from China, to actually try and critique the views of the Chinese government on things like video game playing. If you called me lazy and fat because I was from the US I'd probably call you an asshole too, you know>?



Serious truth in this matter. =)
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
January 16 2009 18:46 GMT
#40
On January 17 2009 02:27 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2009 02:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Spartan please explain to me how this act is in anyway communist.

I was going to ask the same thing. I think we largely have Reagan to blame for these vestiges of the red scare (among so much else, lol).



Blaming Regan is a little cliche btw. Also there was communism before that so perhaps this tension has been around for more than 20 years.

To everyone else:

Seems like a strange place to be arguing about these social issues. Probably shouldn't derail the thread, as if you remember (you probably forgot by now) the OP was about ID registration. Ur blowin it
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