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who has the low apm?

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ExSoldier
Profile Joined April 2008
378 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-13 06:10:24
November 13 2008 06:10 GMT
#1
i only see alot of threads about progamers with high apms... so i was wondering which progamers have low apms? i was told savior has 230? and oov has 250?
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-13 06:12:01
November 13 2008 06:11 GMT
#2
savior is pretty low but zerg doesn't nearly require as much 400 apm that terrans do. savior is like 200-250 afaik.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 13 2008 06:14 GMT
#3
Kang Min? Well everyone knows he retired....
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
November 13 2008 06:14 GMT
#4
I think seeing from wwi and blizzcon reps he got abit faster.

Stork and Iris have pretty low apm too.
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
November 13 2008 06:24 GMT
#5
I have pretty low apm
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
November 13 2008 06:24 GMT
#6
Nobody cares about low apm. Its all about who can hold a hotkey the longest and get like 9001 apm.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 13 2008 06:28 GMT
#7
Boxer is in the 200 range i believe. Stork plays in the 250-300ish range, even Best is only slightly faster than Stork.

savior is famous for his low APM play, though....I don't understand how he can do that...efficiency to the extreme.
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Dark_Luster
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)438 Posts
November 13 2008 06:30 GMT
#8
nal_ra had around 130.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 13 2008 06:35 GMT
#9
On November 13 2008 15:30 Dark_Luster wrote:
nal_ra had around 130.

freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 13 2008 06:36 GMT
#10
On November 13 2008 15:30 Dark_Luster wrote:
nal_ra had around 130.


lol no
look at the blizzcon replays where he played and had like 260
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
November 13 2008 06:36 GMT
#11
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
November 13 2008 06:37 GMT
#12
On November 13 2008 15:36 freelander wrote:
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On November 13 2008 15:30 Dark_Luster wrote:
nal_ra had around 130.


lol no
look at the blizzcon replays where he played and had like 260

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ExSoldier
Profile Joined April 2008
378 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-13 06:40:11
November 13 2008 06:37 GMT
#13
i dont understand how these progamers with low apm can keep up with progamers with much faster apm especially terran users with low apm going against zergs with high apm. mind any1 explaining ^^.

also does any1 know flash and fantasy's apm? im just curious ^^
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
November 13 2008 06:37 GMT
#14
On November 13 2008 15:28 PH wrote:
Boxer is in the 200 range i believe.


Boxer's revamped his play since then and replays hence have been in the normal range for modern play. It's not Nada fast but it's respectable.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
November 13 2008 06:38 GMT
#15
Zerg player it's zerg race doesn't seem to agree with bwchart for apm or something. Terran the highest but i think that is just heavy mech battle of sieging and laying mines with constant stim from marines.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
November 13 2008 06:41 GMT
#16
On November 13 2008 15:37 ExSoldier wrote:
i dont understand how these progamers with low apm can keep up with progamers with much faster apm especially terran users with low apm going against zergs with high apm. mind any1 explaining ^^.

also does any1 know flash and fantasy's apm? im just curious ^^


They don't, hence why low apm players have been forced to revamp their playstyle to keep up.

This topic has really been discussed ad naseum so please use the search funtion.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
November 13 2008 06:53 GMT
#17
Players with mid apm seem to be the ones that dominated though like Savior and Oov.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 13 2008 06:55 GMT
#18
On November 13 2008 15:53 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Players with mid apm seem to be the ones that dominated though like Savior and Oov.

i don't see the correlation, especially since players like nada, bisu, xellos, flash, jaedong, etc. are all way faster than the average pro

savior and oov are exceptions
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omfghi2u2
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States831 Posts
November 13 2008 06:58 GMT
#19
On November 13 2008 15:24 randombum wrote:
Nobody cares about low apm. Its all about who can hold a hotkey the longest and get like 9001 apm.


I lol'ed so hard.

Anyway, I dont think having high APM matters that much. Clicking a spot 30 times doesnt make the unit move faster then clicking a spot 5 times.
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
November 13 2008 07:12 GMT
#20
I have 250-300 apm and I still suck. My mechanics are very poor unfortunately TT.
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